Tim Miller Speaks Out

[stilettos]

Yes, I gathered it was coming from a therapist which is why I mentioned it. Not everyone is so cautious with boundary issues or needs to be. Some of us are just casual people who express our feelings at times and it isn't meant to be taken as this undying love which goes into sex, flirting, or other areas. My friends and I use that expression all the time..."Love you, Bye!" when ending a call.

I hear you SS...we are all different and entitled to our opinion. My family would flay me for saying that to a man that I am not intimate (biblically) with...different strokes and all that.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

So when did Misty have a court date that coincides with NG "tearing Misty up?"

Cajun just put that up. Tim would be accurate the call was made on Aug. 18th with her court date for the RO being on the 19th.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Snipped from this interview: http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5128823.php

What Tim said about the voice mail messages he was received:

“I’ve got a voice message on my phone that (RC) called his father-in-law and his father-in-law called me and said,’Tim, I thought you came down here to be a friend, but apparently you’re not, because Ronald called me and said if he had $35,000, he could have his daughter home.’”

…

“I am willing to play the voice message tomorrow. I got a voice message from Ronald’s mother I think on the 18th or 19th that said, ‘Tim, Misty won’t even talk to Ronald right now. She’s on secret phone calls and stuff. She’s ready to break. We have to get her. We can get her tomorrow. Please, Tim. Help me, help me. We can get her.’ I’m willing to play that.”

And what part of that phone call sounds like the one that was released?! :waitasec:

 

[Kat]

Ya'll are cracking me up, I'm sorry. I usually just read past it but dang...

Post after Post after Post of parsing out -----each-----and-----every-----spoken-----word----and-----after-----parsing-----applying-----anecdotes----as----to----the----etymology----of-----said-----word-----

Just cracks my Butt up is all. Carry on.

 

[MissJames]

I am a Southerner SS...I say I love you to my very, very close friends...family and never, ever to another man or married man. not appropriate...at least that is the way I was taught.

I may say to my husband...gosh I just love that Tim Miller...If I were single, I may say that to my Mom...never would I leave that type of intimate statement of love to a man on his machine unless it were a serious relationship headed to the future. That's just me though....maybe I was raised differently. Our head therapist at the residential treatment center where our Foster children came from dealt with this exact issue with the female children in therapy. I am repeating his words about appropriate boundaries.

I think there's a big difference between suggesting bounderies for female children in therapy and a friendship between adults.Big difference.
Teresa is showing gratitude and friendship IMO.I don't think she's suggesting an intimate relationship with TM. How we are raised has a lot to do with how we see this. I don't think most of us say I love you enough. To me love is everything in this world.It's why we are here.It's not a sexualized love,but a love for each other as people . Acceptance,friendship and gratitude.

 

[lil momma]

I have to say, that sometimes it is said out of habit of saying Love you. I have once said it to the customer service rep at Direct tv. (i caught myself afterwards) It is just a habit of mine to tell the person on the other end of the line i love you before hanging up.

Maybe b/c when i was younger it was ALWAYS said to me by my Mom and Dad, and they taught me that you never know when your time is up so, you should always say that you love that person at the end of the call, b/c you don't know if you will talk to them again. (of course they didn't mean for me to tell everyone i spoke with, I love you, but you get the point...lol)

 

[elle1919]

I have to say, that sometimes it is said out of habit of saying Love you. I have once said it to the customer service rep at Direct tv. (i caught myself afterwards) It is just a habit of mine to tell the person on the other end of the line i love you before hanging up.

Maybe b/c when i was younger it was ALWAYS said to me by my Mom and Dad, and they taught me that you never know when your time is up so, you should always say that you love that person at the end of the call, b/c you don't know if you will talk to them again. (of course they didn't mean for me to tell everyone i spoke with, I love you, but you get the point...lol)

Lil momma I do what you explained all the time and it is so embarrassing. Oddly enough I do it for the reason you described as well. My husband tells everyone he loves them and means it each and every time he ends phone conversation with any member of his family.

O/T but we need it......anybody watch king of queens? ever see the one where Doug and Carrie are trying not to say I love you at the end of every phone call? They couldn't do it.....It was a good episode.

Back on topic....I don't think it's a big deal. Maybe Teresa does love Tim Miller. How would we ever know?

 

[kamky]

I have to say, that sometimes it is said out of habit of saying Love you. I have once said it to the customer service rep at Direct tv. (i caught myself afterwards) It is just a habit of mine to tell the person on the other end of the line i love you before hanging up.
~SNIP~

LOL! :rolling: Thank you for sharing that, lil momma - it brightened my day!
There is a funny commercial out now where a guy says "Luv you" to his goirlfriend at a fast food counter, and the girl at the counter automatically replies "Luv you too". It always makes me chuckle.

 

[grinchmaiden]

I dont believe that TN meant anything by her comment, as has been pointed out alot of people say I love you at the end of a phone conversation. I have told bosses and others that I love them before hanging up the phone. I understand how it happens but I still feel that it was not an appropriate thing to say.

 

[Busylady]

TM bonded with this family, he went to church vigils, had dinner, horseback riding, spent alot of time with the family and gave them hope. I don't find it odd that she said luv ya to the person she thought was helping and supporting them and understands what it is like to have a loved one missing. I would say there is a bond there that most do not have for the simple reason they have both had a child missing.

 

[TallCoolOne]

Ya'll are cracking me up, I'm sorry. I usually just read past it but dang...

Post after Post after Post of parsing out -----each-----and-----every-----spoken-----word----and-----after-----parsing-----applying-----anecdotes----as----to----the----etymology----of-----said-----word-----

Just cracks my Butt up is all. Carry on.

OMG! Thank you for that! I was sitting here wondering what some of this has to do with the big picture. I personally don't give a hoot either way if TN said Luv ya at the end of the conversation, because I don't know what difference it makes in finding Haleigh. I mean, sheesh people. LET IT GO, GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON. Sorry, but it really is not important and it's gone on now for almost two pages. No wonder it's so hard for us working people to get caught up on these threads . We have to wade through page after page of useless drivel.

 

[Gracenote]

Ok, here is my question. After the last couple of days, Misty has to know that Ron and TN are saying she had something to do with it, how are they all still in the same house????????????

That is my question. Why is she still staying there if she is paranoid about people talking about her and GGM talks to her like that? What do they have on her? Apparently she called her family to help her get out, but something happened to cause her to change her mind.

 

[Gracenote]

There is such a thing as love in a friendship way and a grateful way.I think we are all different as to what is an appropriate time to express love.Some people just can't spit the words out of their mouth,others are rather free with "love you'' s. My daughter says it automatically at the end of each phone call.My MIL has probably never said it to anyone.I'm in between,but I would probably tell Tim Miller I love him if I had a chance.He's an amazing humanitarian. Shoot,people shout I love you to the President!
Not arguing with you,Stilletto.I just think we are all very different in when it's appropriate to say"love you".

Is Tim married? If not, no reason he can't have close female friends. If he is, nevermind.

 

[Gracenote]

I have to say, that sometimes it is said out of habit of saying Love you. I have once said it to the customer service rep at Direct tv. (i caught myself afterwards) It is just a habit of mine to tell the person on the other end of the line i love you before hanging up.

Maybe b/c when i was younger it was ALWAYS said to me by my Mom and Dad, and they taught me that you never know when your time is up so, you should always say that you love that person at the end of the call, b/c you don't know if you will talk to them again. (of course they didn't mean for me to tell everyone i spoke with, I love you, but you get the point...lol)

Oh, that's funny! I said it to a plumber once. Talk about mortified. Once a lady with several small children told me "be a good little girl" as we hung up. I was 24.

 

[captdj]

IMO, Tim is working more closely with LE than any of us can really know.

I can't prove it, but I have a feeling.

I have that feeling also. This was a cold case almost and LE's policy was to NOT release any info to the public. But Tim is not LE and now we moving forward.

 

[stilettos]

I think there's a big difference between suggesting bounderies for female children in therapy and a friendship between adults.Big difference.
Teresa is showing gratitude and friendship IMO.I don't think she's suggesting an intimate relationship with TM. How we are raised has a lot to do with how we see this. I don't think most of us say I love you enough. To me love is everything in this world.It's why we are here.It's not a sexualized love,but a love for each other as people . Acceptance,friendship and gratitude.

The therapist in that session actually used the very example that I gave. That it would be appropriate for their Mother to say love you to male family members, but not other men. Perhaps boundary issues are up for more personal interpretation for those who do not worry about giving the wrong impression. IDK and at this point I know it will not help find HaLeigh. I find it odd...JMO

 

[elle1919]

That is my question. Why is she still staying there if she is paranoid about people talking about her and GGM talks to her like that? What do they have on her? Apparently she called her family to help her get out, but something happened to cause her to change her mind.

I agree Gracenote. If we put all these recent events in order we might see a pattern.

For instance, back when they vigil was taking place and I saw a video of Misty walk over and hand TN a flier or whatever the paper in her hand was....I noticed a deliberate attempt by TN to avoid eye contact with Misty. It looked to me, then, that TN had some negative feelings. It just looked like a cold exchange in my opinion. I have to wonder if Misty felt the ground beneath her starting to shift...hence the phone call to her brother and according to him she was ready to leave Ronald. Today we hear a voice mail left for TN for Tim Miller and if I am not mistaken it was back towards the end of August and she was suspecting that Misty was getting ready to go. This would coincide with her feelings during the vigil. She sure looked like she was "doubting" to me. But I think if we look deep enough the truth is there to be had.

Trouble is "the truth" is being kept behind closed doors and what we get are affirmations that Misty was mother of the year. I suspect Tim Miller wanted to open the doors.

 

[badme102]

OMG! Thank you for that! I was sitting here wondering what some of this has to do with the big picture. I personally don't give a hoot either way if TN said Luv ya at the end of the conversation, because I don't know what difference it makes in finding Haleigh. I mean, sheesh people. LET IT GO, GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON. Sorry, but it really is not important and it's gone on now for almost two pages. No wonder it's so hard for us working people to get caught up on these threads . We have to wade through page after page of useless drivel.

With all due respect, it's NOT useless drivel if TN is leaving the "LOVE YOU" message on Tim Millers answering machine one day, and throwing him under the bus and saying he's lying the next.
That IS important, IMO.

 

[MissJames]

The therapist in that session actually used the very example that I gave. That it would be appropriate for their Mother to say love you to male family members, but not other men. Perhaps boundary issues are up for more personal interpretation for those who do not worry about giving the wrong impression. IDK and at this point I know it will not help find HaLeigh. I find it odd...JMO

We were foster parents,also,for about 20 years and adopted four[Avitar is our youngest].My own experience is that therapists view things through a different lens.It's not a bad thing and is a necessary part of their job.They often see the worst of the worst[especially what has happened to children who had to be placed into foster care] and it would make sense that certain "bounderies" not be crossed.
But it is still just their opinion.Even therapists disagree with each other.

No,what we are discussing won't help find Haleigh,but it is reflective of the thread title and the conversation between Tim and Teresa.
Stilletto,I can't find the blowkiss smiley or I'd send you one! I think it's awesome you are a foster mom and actually participate in therapy for your FC.Not all foster parents do! Blows my mind,but some think providing a bed and some food is good enough!

 

[Baznme]

IMHO It is not Tm credibility that is the issue. It is the way he has gone about providing that help. Kinda funny Ron and Misty have a different version of events and they are considered the liars because this Gentleman has more credibility. It sounds as if Ron and Misty have no chance at all to prove their innocence. If all this Ron and Misty hunt had been profitable we would of already had HaLeigh! Oh yea, IMO.

There's no reason for TM to be getting any criticism here. He's not the issue. Haleigh being gone is. He was invited back to Satsuma to help find her. Period. That is his only interest. There is no comparison regarding credibility compared to RC and MC, not even close. Tim's credibility has been witnessed by thousands, over and over and over again. Come join a search sometime and it won't take you long to see that. If the rest of the clan can show the same, I invite them to do so..........now. It's been long enough. They've been given every opportunity to prove their innocence. I'm listening but I don't hear anything but riddles. They don't make any sense.

BTW: Ron and Misty were considered liars before TM ever showed up.