Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher Abducted While Jogging - Memphis #4 *Arrest*

[sharkgirl]

The police affidavit released today indicates that cameras show CA turning onto the the street perpendicular to Victor street (ie Person street) minutes before 6am, following the ~4:30am abduction. CA then shows up at his brothers just before 8am, so 2 hours after arriving to where EF was found. The affidavit doesn't indicate when cameras recorded CA leaving the area.

Loser CA didn't seem to be driving around looking for places to toss evidence, so I'm wondering if he spent that time at Victor street w/ EF, or maybe CA got to the brother's home earlier than noticed by witnesses. Or maybe he literally went to McDonald's to get a snack, which is why LE was looking in that dumpster for evidence.

I guess I'm hoping to find that CA was with EF as little time as possible

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567213899744788498

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

I'm sure you all noticed that SA wasn't listed in any of his new charges.
Hopefully, they don't add that after autopsy, so that's one thing we can be thankful for.
For now, anyway.

They will swab her body, looking for his body fluids, DNA etc., then file SA when the results are back from the lab.

 

[OtisC]

Imo I prefer to call it a possiblility, but if wishful thinking works for you that is fine too! Any clothing on a body makes it easier to identify the individual, no matter what has happened to them, so imo it makes sense a perp would remove clothes before disposal of a body.

A dead body will be noticed whether clothed or nude.

Identification will soon follow in most cases.

As much as we want otherwise, there was a sexual motivation in this case. As most of us know, in these cases, sex is more about power than gratification.

JMO

Otis

 

[CharlestonGal]

Imo I prefer to call it a possiblility, but if wishful thinking works for you that is fine too! Any clothing on a body makes it easier to identify the individual, no matter what has happened to them, so imo it makes sense a perp would remove clothes before disposal of a body.

The reports only state that the purple shorts were found in a trash bag. The don't mention the rest of her clothing (top, shoes, socks, underwear). Just the shorts. It may be an omission of some kind and all of her clothing was removed and placed in the trash bag, but as of now they've only mentioned her shorts. jmo

Eliza Fletcher crime scene: New details released

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WREG) — WREG obtained a copy of another police affidavit with more details about what happened when Eliza Fletcher’s body was found on Monday. Fletcher, a 34-year-old mother a…

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[MsBetsy]

Imo I prefer to call it a possiblility, but if wishful thinking works for you that is fine too! Any clothing on a body makes it easier to identify the individual, no matter what has happened to them, so imo it makes sense a perp would remove clothes before disposal of a body.

I don't think he was all that concerned about the body being identified. He carelessly left it lying out in the open. He had to know it wouldn't be long before police identified her.

 

[honesty]

it was not his first he did over 20 years for a similar offence when he was much much younger. So this makes me wonder was this his second time or is this just who he is and there is more to the story of what he may have done aside from these two cases.

I was thinking about crimes against women. I should have been clearer in regard to the type of crime on my mind, I apologize for not being clearer. The victim he served time over for kidnapping was a male and I feel that was money motivated. I keep thinking of all of the missing females in the area, as well as some rumors I do not think we can address here as they are just that, rumors, from women who have said some things. I am of the belief that this time, his crime was purely sexually driven, and I believe he has committed other sexual crimes, but murders, I am still on the fence about.

IMO, it was much a crime of opportunity by a culprit that was intelligence challenged. So his lack of a plan for concealment is not surprising.

I am with you on him being intelligently challenged. His records go back to childhood, and I get the impression he was just shuffled around the system and never given proper counseling, nurturing, or life set tools.

 

[Thinker Belle]

Here's a good view of the overgrown grass/weeds beside the house. There's no way anyone would have seen her by the back of the house unless they were in the driveway.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567235113209024521

Eliza Fletcher crime scene: New details released

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WREG) — WREG obtained a copy of another police affidavit with more details about what happened when Eliza Fletcher’s body was found on Monday. Fletcher, a 34-year-old mother a…

wreg.com

The newest affidavit actually says she was found by the back steps of the house at 1666 Victor street

 

[asyousay]

No matter how many of these cases I follow..I just can never wrap my brain around how or why someone could do what he did. I am just so sad today. I have no words, really.

Thankfully I have not followed to many of these cases. For me it’s her sweet innocent boys who I literally ache for.

I know it’s sad for everybody involved so I’m not belittling their loss but they are adults and can process it. These little boys have just woken up and their mum has vanished into thin air and it’s literally heartbreaking.

 

[Thinker Belle]

Here is where her body was found according to affidavit , by these back steps. I wonder if he planned to move her later but didn’t realize people would be looking so quickly and LE would be onto him.

 

[Yemelyan]

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It shows a short surveillance video that pictures the car arriving at the brother's apartment complex, and then the suspect going to and fro from the car in dark pants and a white shirt. A lot of what he is doing is obscured by other vehicles and the camera captures him from a distance but he appears to be cleaning on the passenger side of the vehicle.

 

[LadyL]

These pictures absolutely infuriate me. Couldn't even be bothered enough to at least try to conceal her, beyond tossing her into some tall grass a block or so from the apartment he then went to, to clean up the suv and his clothes. He showed the suv far more concern than he did her. Well guess what, Pookie? You couldn't clean her out completely. She is still there, and she left a story to tell. And dumping her in that grass, not too smart. She was found quickly enough that she still has a story to tell. And those slides that you left behind. You might as well have left yourself in them. They have a story to tell. And you may as well have waved to the camera when you were committing your brazenly stupid act, bc I promise you there is more video than we have seen, and it not only has a story to tell, it shows it.

Eliza's story will always live on in the hearts of the many lives she touched in her far-too-short life here. You, Pookie? Your story is over. The End. JMO

[bbm]

where is the video you mention that I could watch?

ETA: never mind, I found it

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Agreed! He was not cuffed when he entered that room

I want him in a straitjacket

 

[Lyanna]

It shows a short surveillance video that pictures the car arriving at the brother's apartment complex, and then the suspect going to and fro from the car in dark pants and a white shirt. A lot of what he is doing is obscured by other vehicles and the camera captures him from a distance but he appears to be cleaning on the passenger side of the vehicle.

Thank you !

 

[kccorona]

CA then shows up at his brothers just before 8am, so 2 hours after arriving to where EF was found. The affidavit doesn't indicate when cameras recorded CA leaving the area.

Good point. I’m having a hard time believing he went anywhere other than the house after the abduction but I do wonder if we’ll ever know why there were so many sites of searching throughout the day Saturday and Sunday.
My brain is a bit jumbled at the moment, but it seems like there were at least 3-4 sites (aside from brothers apartment) that LE showed up to in large numbers and conducted searches (aerial, foot, horseback, water, ATV, etc). Maybe those held some significance in terms of the time between 4:30am abduction and arriving at the abandoned home.

 

[SunnyBooBoo]

They will swab her body, looking for his body fluids, DNA etc., then file SA when the results are back from the lab.

I don't mean to be disrespectful in my questioning, but what state would the body be in 3.5 days after she was killed and left outside? I did read that an officer smelled an odor. Could CA's DNA tracing him to her murder still be intact or does it start to disintegrate after x amount of days? Do you think the family had to ID her body or would DNA tests be enough? I'm hoping the later. Would they be able to have an open casket funeral?

I have read that her shorts were discarded in a trash bag that was found about 100 ft from her body. I don't see any mention about her shoes, socks, sports bra, or watch?

I want to reiterate that LE did a tremendous job but I'm curious how well they were able to trace his phone pinging off cell towers, since this would be where he spent (I would think) a decent amount of time, unless he knew to turn it off (likely not). But I'm curious why they were searching waterways earlier on in the investigation. Has anyone heard?

Also, any news on why they hauled that dumpster away? Maybe that's where he threw the rags he used to clean up his car?

 

[LadyL]

I took this screenshot from Google Images and can't make sense of this. The affidavit says officers followed tracks through tall grass, detected an odor and found an unresponsive female to the right of the steps. Look how close the other houses are. I don't understand how a human body could lie in that location undetected for 4 days. This is the image from Feb 2022 so I expect there is a whole lot more greenery there at the moment, but still. Unbelievable.
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Police charge felon with murder of billionaire heiress Eliza Fletcher

Police officers discovered the body of billionaire heiress Eliza Fletcher in long grass behind an abandoned house after spotting vehicle tracks and smelling an 'odor of decay'.

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[Mariposa]

The police affidavit released today indicates that cameras show CA turning onto the the street perpendicular to Victor street (ie Person street) minutes before 6am, following the ~4:30am abduction. CA then shows up at his brothers just before 8am, so 2 hours after arriving to where EF was found. The affidavit doesn't indicate when cameras recorded CA leaving the area.

Loser CA didn't seem to be driving around looking for places to toss evidence, so I'm wondering if he spent that time at Victor street w/ EF, or maybe CA got to the brother's home earlier than noticed by witnesses. Or maybe he literally went to McDonald's to get a snack, which is why LE was looking in that dumpster for evidence.

I guess I'm hoping to find that CA was with EF as little time as possible

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567213899744788498

I found the timings mentioned in this affidavit for when his vehicle was spotted on surveillance interesting, the first time mentioned is at 5:48 AM him exiting I-240 at S Parkway E and then over the next few minutes he wends his way through the streets toward the vicinity of the location where the body was later found/his brothers apartment.

IMO he was at other undescribed locations for over an hour between the abduction and when he came to the neighborhood where the body and clothing were found. These locations might be the places his phone pinged and where law enforcement was searching and might be where the actual murder occurred.

I wonder if he went to the apartments on Waterstone Oak Way which was where he listed his address as being, at all that morning. He may have been pretty much living at his brothers apartment on Orleans St, based on how the neighbors there have a lot to say about him.

 

[WillenFan21]

Parker King reports she was found in the grass near 1666 Victor Street.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567213899744788498

This poor woman was literally just going out on her daily run and then this happened to her. I suspect he'd been stalking her for awhile and took the opportunity to take her cause how would he know that she runs that early and with him waiting across the street it just seems like he knew her run route. Clearly a sexual geared premeditated crime. JMO

 

[Cedarsage]

Was the trash bag with her shorts located near Chestnut st? They said it was found about 100 yards away from her body. I’ve heard Chestnut street mentioned several times regarding the search so maybe it has to do with where they found the garbage bag? Also, I notice the media keeps showing pictures of the back steps of the house where Eliza was found, but news articles are saying she was found in tall grass by steps next to the driveway, which would be facing Victor st.

 

[MsBetsy]

[bbm]

where is the video you mention that I could watch?

We can't watch it because police have not released it to the public. They described some of what was in the footage but we haven't actually seen it.