TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #11

[Carla Lashelle]

lol He is one strange family spokesperson. imoo
He gave no info. :waitasec:

Maybe he is the family spokes MIME and hes stuck in a box or walking into the wind or something?

 

[not_my_kids]

More like a non spokesperson spokesperson!

He's a "Notawordtospeaksman". Okay, I'm done now.

 

[Eileen730]

I saw this, but I don't see where it says anything about an Amber Alert issued. When I google amber alert for Holly I find no official amber alert. I still do not believe one was issued. jmo

Here ya go! Amber alert!

up at the top it says notice in red print go to where it says law enforcement it will tell you that LE has to issue the amber alert....

http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet


No just anyone can issue an amber alert.



have been certified as noted below.


Case has been entered into the Federal Bureau of Investigation's National Crime Information Center (NCIC).
Waiver from parent, guardian, or law-enforcement agency is on file at NCMEC giving permission to disseminate photograph of missing child.
Posters containing photograph of abductor(s) are included only if a felony warrant has been issued for the abductor and the subject has been entered into the NCIC Wanted Person File.

 

[nursebeeme]

this is just my opinion

the spokesperson is saying what he is allowed to say

we may not like the lack of info released but it is what it is

I personally respect him for doing what he can for the family.

moo

 

[wfgodot]

Hello and welcome to WS, GoHard24.

 

[not_my_kids]

Here ya go! Amber alert!

up at the top it says notice in red print go to where it says law enforcement it will tell you that LE has to issue the amber alert....

http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet


No just anyone can issue an amber alert.

THere are only two active amber alerts on NCMEC right now. Holly is neither of them, and there are no Amber Alert notifications on her flier. There is no Amber Alert. All that red writing tells you is that only their posters have NCMEC logos. But not all NCMEC cases are Amber Alerts. Holly's is one that is not.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Here ya go! Amber alert!

up at the top it says notice in red print go to where it says law enforcement it will tell you that LE has to issue the amber alert....

http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet


No just anyone can issue an amber alert.



have been certified as noted below.


Case has been entered into the Federal Bureau of Investigation's National Crime Information Center (NCIC).
Waiver from parent, guardian, or law-enforcement agency is on file at NCMEC giving permission to disseminate photograph of missing child.
Posters containing photograph of abductor(s) are included only if a felony warrant has been issued for the abductor and the subject has been entered into the NCIC Wanted Person File.

That is NOT the AMBER Alert. To be on that page, you do NOT have to have an AMBER Alert issued for you. There are thousands of kids listed on NCMEC. And only ONE is an AMBER Alert.

 

[vjlaw]

ANd if you look, that is only a regular NCMEC flier. You don't have to have an AA to get on that page. She is not on the NCMEC AA servlet page. Just a normal NCMEC entry.

Yes, I know. But I thought the discussion was why and Amber Alert was issued when she is not a child. On youtube, some guy held up a poster that said Amber Alert across the top. I think someone did that in the printing process. Amber Alerts go nationwide. I can't find where there was an actual amber alert issued by TBI.

 

[not_my_kids]

Yes, I know. But I thought the discussion was why and Amber Alert was issued when she is not a child. On youtube, some guy held up a poster that said Amber Alert across the top. I think someone did that in the printing process. Amber Alerts go nationwide. I can't find where there was an actual amber alert issued by TBI.

Exactly.

 

[Eileen730]

Yes, I know. But I thought the discussion was why and Amber Alert was issued when she is not a child. On youtube, some guy held up a poster that said Amber Alert across the top. I think someone did that in the printing process. Amber Alerts go nationwide. I can't find where there was an actual amber alert issued by TBI.

Yes she is 20 in tenn the age is up to 17 so why was one issued?

 

[not_my_kids]

Yes she is 20 in tenn the age is up to 17 so why was one issued?

It wasn't.

 

[lillys]

I don't find any motive behind killing her somewhere in the woods and then dumping her remains somewhere along the way. The obvious motive here has to be rape and/or power control.
Thanks in advance.

respectuflly snipped

Why do you think she was alive for the first few days?
I'm sincerely interested because I don't understand how that statement can be made. :innocent:
tia/imoo

 

[lillys]

Maybe he is the family spokes MIME and hes stuck in a box or walking into the wind or something?

Carla, now my white tshirt is all covered in coffee. :floorlaugh:
Spokes mime. omg that is funny,:great:

 

[Eileen730]

It wasn't.

No?
So anyone can make up posters?
http://www.wbbjtv.com/younews/119774264.html?corder=reverse&m=y&smobile=y&c=y

Ok ill eat my hat but im gonna keep looking lol your probably right

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I assume this is a kidnapping for some sort of sexual assault. Ultimately the suspect could kill Holly when he was done. Could be the day she was taken or today or tomorrow. We just dont know. I am sure he didnt take her into the woods to watch Twilight DVDs or play Farmville.

"Staged" may or may not mean anything. The lunch bag got to where it was found in one of two ways. Either the suspect threw it from a car or holly threw it from a car. So either way the suspect or the two of them were at that location. Now, you could argue that he PLANTED it there, but he still had to go there to leave it so its the exact same thing. I do not think also that the suspect would, at some point, decide to put Hollys stuff in the car and drive around planting it. Thats too risky. You want to get rid of stuff FAST not drive it around town sprinkling it here and there.

The tape and bag were NOT found 8 miles into the woods they were found (at least the bag) 8 miles AWAY on a road. I posted pictures and a map earlier today. The tape and bag are said to be from the general same area. The location of the tape does not look like the exact same spot as where the bag is said to have come from. There is no river by the lunch BAG (its like a small purse). There is a creek but the bag was not found in it and it is said that the bag (with lunch) appeared to have been thrown from a car. Again there is video of the site. No mention has been made of any items Holly may have had so a purse, back pack, school items, etc. is 100% conjectural. No items of hers have been described as missing either.

I doubt the abductor parked 8 miles away "as the staged clues suggest". I assume had some vehicle on a path in or behinds the woods. Someone pointed out on a map a day or two ago that you could get to a car in a few minutes. Plus there is probably at least a 2-4 hour window of opportunity to leave the scene before LE even started to look for things.

Early on in the search scanner chatter reported finding a car parked in the woods with the engine warm, and having gloves and camo clothes inside. Some variants of the story say the clothes were in a back pack and Holly's cell phone was in the car. The original chatter DID mention a car. LE has denied that both a car was found or that anything found had anything to do with the case. So who really knows. Somehow I tend to believe IF a car were found it is not invloved since cops have been asking people to report about people suspiciously washing cars, selling cars, changing tires, etc. You wouldnt do that if you found the suspects car in the first place.

I don't find any motive behind killing her somewhere in the woods and then dumping her remains somewhere along the way. The obvious motive here has to be rape and/or power control.

I think the duct tape and lunch box were obviously staged and her abductor is smart, but not as smart as you'd think. My first impression was that the lunch box was found 8 miles into the woods from her home and that it was still miles away from another road but this is not the case. Even in a rural area, what are the chances of him crossing multiple roads with her in his possession? Not very likely. At 8am there are plenty of people going to work and what not. It's not like this happened at 2 in the morning or something. Placing her lunch box there and having it lead to a river is a good idea in his sense. They'll spend hours upon hours searching a river that has nothing to be found. I'm still puzzled by why he would leave duct tape as a clue to throw investigators off though. The lunch box makes sense as it's easily recognized as hers and he likely left no other evidence with it. The duct tape was lucky to be found as it's so small and the connection wasn't quite there right away. You'd think he'd choose her backpack or purse or something.

I still think she is alive and I'm quite sure she was alive for at least the first few days. As I mentioned I don't see the motive behind just killing her unless it was somebody she actually knew. I doubt she would walk willingly into the woods with anybody, regardless of who they were as she would be late for class.

I want to rule her brother and boyfriend out but something just keeps bringing me back to the initial story. Something just doesn't fit there regardless of whether he passed a polygraph. You never know what could have happened.

I feel the abductor had a car much closer than his staged clues suggest. He knew the families routine and knew that they would realize something was wrong when they saw her car still in the driveway, regardless of whether or not they saw it happen. I don't think they were in the woods for long before entering a car.

What does this "Warm Vehicle Found with Cell Phone Gloves & Camo ~ 4/15/11" mean? I read through this topic but I may have missed something. Thanks in advance.

 

[GoHard24]

respectuflly snipped

Why do you think she was alive for the first few days?
I'm sincerely interested because I don't understand how that statement can be made. :innocent:
tia/imoo

I'm saying I believe she is still alive and hidden in a home or shelter somewhere but at the same time I am almost positive she was alive for a days and it begins making more sense for him to dispose of her after a certain point. It really is going to depend on the killer. We can almost generalize his sick mind but we don't know if he had something long term planned (Smart, Dugard) or whether he wanted to rape her, torture her, abuse her, what ever else and the get rid of her after he had his way. If that makes any sense.

Thank you Carla.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

No?
So anyone can make up posters?
http://www.wbbjtv.com/younews/119774264.html?corder=reverse&m=y&smobile=y&c=y

Ok ill eat my hat but im gonna keep looking lol your probably right

Yes. Anyone can make posters. I could go make one right now. It happens more than you'd think. Someone goes missing, and everyone starts shouting "AMBER ALERT!" Doesn't mean one was "officially" issued though.

Now we've :deadhorse: on yet another topic...

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Yes, I know. But I thought the discussion was why and Amber Alert was issued when she is not a child. On youtube, some guy held up a poster that said Amber Alert across the top. I think someone did that in the printing process. Amber Alerts go nationwide. I can't find where there was an actual amber alert issued by TBI.

You might go back two or three days because all of this was resolved (I thought?) then.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

So I did a Google Map and from Brodie's Landing (where it ends at the river) to Holly's residence varies from 13 to 16 miles depending on how you travel and takes between 29 to 31 minutes. (NOTE: Brodie's Landing is actually a long road that begins at Hwy 69 and ends at the river, so since someone said on here that LE is searching the river, that is the spot I mapped, where Brodie's Landing ends at the river. )

This link may have already been posted. If so, here it is again ~ Brodies Landing area ~

http://www.satelliteviews.net/cgi-bin/g.cgi?fid=1314738&state=TN&ftype=locale

 

[Eileen730]

How about this one LOL

http://www.amber-alert.net/2011/04/15/missing-endangered-alert-tennesee-–-holly-bobo/