TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #23

[SmoothOperator]

The press release that Carla L put up felt a bit weird when I read it. They "have more leads than they can follow up on?" So, get some volunteers to help! Surely they can't say that they aren't finding Holly because they don't have enough manpower? Can they? Also, the "one puzzle piece" sounds like a cop out.

I've been very supportive of LE thus far and really hope that behind the scenes more is going on.

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And I'd add strange as well as nonsensical them.

And they say they do not have the manpower to ger through all the tips and leads they've got.. With???

Yet they say that they need one little piece to complete the puzzle.. Well wonder if that piece just might be in that stack of leads, tips, info that you presently don't have the manpower needed to have the leads read, verified, and investigated in order to see if the info is relevant to this case.. In searching for this one puzzle piece that is desperately needed I would think delegation of officera would be on this task in order to quickly know does one of thise very many leads that are in that stack contain the info that actually is the one piece that everything is hinged on...

If the info is not there In the stack of leads I know for certain that it's out there somewhere and IMO instead of making such an arrogant/borderline irresponsible statement such as their warning or advice to us the public to "ONLY CALL IN TIPS THAT ARE SERIOUS"...

I mean, really??..come on that statement is one of the worst and irresponsible I have ever seen released during an open, active investigation.. It is even a bit angering IMo. Because just as many others that have already voiced their opinions, I too feel that statement could and IMO probably will hinder this investigation.

One thing I know for sure is that it certainly WILL NOT benefit the investigation.. Jmo tho!!

 

[Plumeria5]

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And I'd add strange as well as nonsensical them.

And they say they do not have the manpower to ger through all the tips and leads they've got.. With???

Yet they say that they need one little piece to complete the puzzle.. Well wonder if that piece just might be in that stack of leads, tips, info that you presently don't have the manpower needed to have the leads read, verified, and investigated in order to see if the info is relevant to this case.. In searching for this one puzzle piece that is desperately needed I would think delegation of officera would be on this task in order to quickly know does one of thise very many leads that are in that stack contain the info that actually is the one piece that everything is hinged on...

If the info is not there In the stack of leads I know for certain that it's out there somewhere and IMO instead of making such an arrogant/borderline irresponsible statement such as their warning or advice to us the public to "ONLY CALL IN TIPS THAT ARE SERIOUS"...

I mean, really??..come on that statement is one of the worst and irresponsible I have ever seen released during an open, active investigation.. It is even a bit angering IMo. Because just as many others that have already voiced their opinions, I too feel that statement could and IMO probably will hinder this investigation.

One thing I know for sure is that it certainly WILL NOT benefit the investigation.. Jmo tho!!

Recently my husband's debit card was used far, far away, and I mean far away in another state. Problem was he still had his card on him and doesn't use it online. We had been at a certain discount store (which I won't name) that afternoon. The following day his "card #" was used in this other state at the same discount store. I called the store we had gone to and spoke to the manager. He was surprised as several other customers had had the same exact thing happen to them. He said I bet it is one of our employees selling numbers from the debit cards. He had them on video. I went to the PD and told them all this. You know the response I got, "Well, just don't go to that store anymore".

I think LE gets so many tips they are completely overwhelmed and yes that piece to the puzzle may be in a stack somewhere just like when Sarah Townsend's body was in the very pond they had searched earlier.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Re: mrsu and MsFacetious discussion on possibility and/ or likelihood that Holly is still being "held" and how she could be held in perp's house ( I.e. A basement, storage building, attic, etc, etc)..

Along this same vein in discussing not only these possibilities but speaking about cases that we might remenber that truly did still have the victim "held" captive in and/or around the perp's home..

Just as was mentioned ^above Sarah Maynard wAs victim being held in the basement of the perp's home.. And LE used today's technologies to verify that not only was Sarah but even more outstanding they were able to know for certain. That Sarah wAs alive inside that home..

This is thanks to technology that allows PE the added benefit of háving capabilities of being aotside of a home, out od eyesight in distance and able to hear worx for word whT was spoken in that home.. Being those clothes doors and the close bejLq

 

[Trino]

I think the abductor planned H's abduction well, but IMO he didn't plan for the aftermath and storm. Assuming H is still alive, she is a huge liability. Can he afford to keep her?

 

[TxLady2]

I guess I am from the Mark Klaas school of missing children...parents can't be worried about what people might think, they can't be worried about anything except keeping their child's face in the news and getting themselves cleared, no matter what anyone might say about them. I find it hard to believe the Bobos would be concerned about their own images at a time like this. Perhaps they are too bereaved.

It may not be so much worried about their images as it is not being able to handle the negative publicity that will generate from these public appearances. The mom seemed about on the verge of collapse in that one interview, and still some were highly critical of her appearance and demeanor. Maybe she just can't face the cameras.

 

[TxLady2]

I hate to sound skeptical but....at this point.....I wonder how many of those leads are even close to being viable?

I had very high hopes Holly would be back home soon after this first happened. Now....I realize the outcome isn't likely gonna be that way....sigh. It's beyond heartbreaking.

Good question. And I understand that to an ordinary citizen, it's unclear what may be viable. But I believe they are just trying to discourage the nutcases and thrill seekers from wasting their time and resources by deliberately giving them false leads and made up scenarios. This happens in every case in every state in the country. There are crazy people out there who just never take these things seriously and like to have fun, at someone else's expense.

 

[TxLady2]

There are the cases where the abductor is not someone who would be "missing" because they were never integrated into society to begin with.

Such as Elizabeth Smart's abductors.

There are also the cases where the victim is held in the suspect's basement, cellar, attic or elsewhere. Tied up, blindfolded, gagged, drugged, whatever. Then that person can go to work or do what they need to do.

Shawn and Ben's abductor left the apartment

Sarah Maynard was in the guys basement

Jaycee didn't interrupt Garrido's normal routine

The 62 year old woman who was abducted and her house burned down, was also being held at his house.

If you are holding the person hostage at your house... it is not suspicious when you leave and come back home. You aren't going to a cave in the mountains... you are just coming home. As long as you aren't buying anything obviously weird, you wouldn't draw attention.

Absolutely, it's possible Holly could be being held somewhere.

Nobody thought it was possible for Elizabeth to be abducted like she was... and then still be alive 9 months later.

I've learned to never think something isn't possible... it's always possible.

It may not happen, but it is certainly possible.

Very good points, and so true.

 

[TxLady2]

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And I'd add strange as well as nonsensical them.

And they say they do not have the manpower to ger through all the tips and leads they've got.. With???

Yet they say that they need one little piece to complete the puzzle.. Well wonder if that piece just might be in that stack of leads, tips, info that you presently don't have the manpower needed to have the leads read, verified, and investigated in order to see if the info is relevant to this case.. In searching for this one puzzle piece that is desperately needed I would think delegation of officera would be on this task in order to quickly know does one of thise very many leads that are in that stack contain the info that actually is the one piece that everything is hinged on...

If the info is not there In the stack of leads I know for certain that it's out there somewhere and IMO instead of making such an arrogant/borderline irresponsible statement such as their warning or advice to us the public to "ONLY CALL IN TIPS THAT ARE SERIOUS"...

I mean, really??..come on that statement is one of the worst and irresponsible I have ever seen released during an open, active investigation.. It is even a bit angering IMo. Because just as many others that have already voiced their opinions, I too feel that statement could and IMO probably will hinder this investigation.

One thing I know for sure is that it certainly WILL NOT benefit the investigation.. Jmo tho!!

I disagree that it's the worst or most irresponsible statement from LE. You do understand, don't you, that this is not the only case they have to work on, there are probably many other cases... maybe not as important as this, but still need their attention. I'm sure they have made this a priority but still... to ask the public to call in only if they have viable information is certainly a valid request, IMO.
Or would you rather have them pull every officer they have off their regular duties just to follow up on leads, so that the remainder of the population of that county goes unprotected?? And so what happens when some 80 year old woman who lives alone, has some doped up teenager break into her house to steal her jewelry so they can go buy dope? And she gets seriously hurt or possibly killed, because uh-oh.. the officers were too busy following up crazy leads on the Holly case and couldn't respond to her 911 call when she first heard noises outside.
They have a limited number of personnel, and they simply cannot put every officer they have on one case. Nor can they put all the hundreds of other cases they may be assigned to on the back burner just to chase down every crank call they get from the nuts out there who like to play games.
Seriously, let's be reasonable.

 

[TennesseeGal]

"Mayer said people who have good information about April 13 or the day Bobo disappeared are finally beginning to call."

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/14643985/holly-bobo-still-missing-one-month-later

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The "or" in the statement I quoted must be a mistake... she went missing on the 13th. Was that a Freudian slip of some sort?

IMO the entire report was poorly written. Mr. Mehr's name wasn't even spelled correctly. I don't think this report was based on any new information - just the same info we've seen written with, perhaps, some twists on the wording. MOO.

 

[shefner]

I disagree that it's the worst or most irresponsible statement from LE. You do understand, don't you, that this is not the only case they have to work on, there are probably many other cases... maybe not as important as this, but still need their attention. I'm sure they have made this a priority but still... to ask the public to call in only if they have viable information is certainly a valid request, IMO.
Or would you rather have them pull every officer they have off their regular duties just to follow up on leads, so that the remainder of the population of that county goes unprotected?? And so what happens when some 80 year old woman who lives alone, has some doped up teenager break into her house to steal her jewelry so they can go buy dope? And she gets seriously hurt or possibly killed, because uh-oh.. the officers were too busy following up crazy leads on the Holly case and couldn't respond to her 911 call when she first heard noises outside.
They have a limited number of personnel, and they simply cannot put every officer they have on one case. Nor can they put all the hundreds of other cases they may be assigned to on the back burner just to chase down every crank call they get from the nuts out there who like to play games.
Seriously, let's be reasonable.

Call me crazy (and it won't be the first time)....but in all the years I have followed criminal cases, I can't recall one time where law enforcement has issued a statement like this. It, like so many other things about this case, is unusual. Obviously, in order to keep people calling in and remaining interested in the case, LE should do the work of deciding what is and is not a "serious tip." Since they are the experienced ones, they should be able to quickly weed through what might be a crank call and what might be a viable lead.

 

[Trino]

Do we really know much about HB? Friends? Places she frequented? Activities? What do others her age have to say about her? There are various levels of nursing in TN, but at age 19, H would not have been a degreed nurse. It sounds like she may have been taking vocational courses to be an LPN/LVN or a Diploma Nurse.

Not at all saying Clint is involved, but what do we know about him? His friends? His daily routines? Didn't Clint live at school? Doesn't anyone at school have anything to say?

Seems we know very little about either of them or very little about the family except employment and schools they attended.

 

[concentric]

There are also the cases where the victim is held in the suspect's basement, cellar, attic or elsewhere. Tied up, blindfolded, gagged, drugged, whatever. Then that person can go to work or do what they need to do.

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John Jamelske, NY is another one of these types. I can't even read about this case anymore. If you want to know about what happened, there are numerous news reports and articles.

 

[Oriah]

There are the cases where the abductor is not someone who would be "missing" because they were never integrated into society to begin with.

I know this is not the prevailing thought in Holly's case, but I do think it is worth considering.

 

[mkay882]

When Mrs. Bobo made a public statement, there were people here on Websleuths and elsewhere saying her crying was fake and compared her to child murderer Susan Smith. After that fiasco, the Bobos probably feel like the public statements do more harm than good. They probably just want the focus to remain on their daughter and the man who kidnapped her.

Right you are MLE.
I've seen where people are declared not a suspect by the very LE investigating the/a case and people don't believe them <shrug>
Guess I wouldn't appear in public either.
It never seems to help bring a loved one home anyway, and may delight the perp if watching newscasts.

 

[concentric]

There is still no further information on what is an extremely odd situation, IMO, that I've posted about before.

http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/apr/21/wake-co-sheriffs-office-fuquay-varina-mans-abducti-ar-967738/

Jeri Farmer, Tutor's aunt, tells NBC-17 that her nephew told family members that he was on his way to a Bible college in Wendell when he was abducted by three men.

Farmer said Tutor went on to say the he was somehow able to escape the abductors, but he does not remember a lot of the incident and the family believes he was drugged.

The Wake County Sheriff's Office, however, determined that Tutor's story was false and he was not abducted.
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And, are we to forget that this happened, when Holly was abducted around the same time?

 

[BeanE]

There is still no further information on what is an extremely odd situation, IMO, that I've posted about before.

http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/apr/21/wake-co-sheriffs-office-fuquay-varina-mans-abducti-ar-967738/

Jeri Farmer, Tutor's aunt, tells NBC-17 that her nephew told family members that he was on his way to a Bible college in Wendell when he was abducted by three men.

Farmer said Tutor went on to say the he was somehow able to escape the abductors, but he does not remember a lot of the incident and the family believes he was drugged.

The Wake County Sheriff's Office, however, determined that Tutor's story was false and he was not abducted.
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And, are we to forget that this happened, when Holly was abducted around the same time?

I haven't forgotten. What particularly got my attention is that it was reported that LE was still investigating after he'd been charged with filing a false report.

 

[OldSteve]

Not sure what to make of this:

"Parents of Holly Bobo Sought Help from a Psychic"
http://[link removed]/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979318604

This brings up another point, while "[link removed]" appears under Google News - should it really be considered a news source?

 

[Daisyjane]

There are the cases where the abductor is not someone who would be "missing" because they were never integrated into society to begin with.

I know this is not the prevailing thought in Holly's case, but I do think it is worth considering.

Yes. A homeless person, someone living in the woods, or simply 'off the grid' could have spotted Holly, and found her appealing. And don't forget about that nearby, longtime vacant house; sounds like a magnet for transients, druggies or other unsavory types.

 

[concentric]

Most assuredly, not everyone who was "missing" or away from home when Holly was abducted has an alibi or has definately been accounted for, IMO.

 

[OldSteve]

Seems too well planned IMO for this to be a first time try by a perp.. should have a record of doing something, trying something against women... though many times these charges get plead bargained down to lesser offenses making it harder for LE to match crime-for-crime.