TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #27

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  • #241
I hate to even bring this up again since i cant post the link and it apparently gave people some trouble to find . However in the JVM interview Jane asks the familly if thier is anything through the woods the way they headed and at the same time the mom says no but clint says yes theres a dirt road and the mom kind of gives him a strange look ..

This is the only one I could find so far. Someone taping the episode so there is a child screaming in the background. LOL

Holly - YouTube
 
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You make a good point but I would think someone from there would know the difference? Also, would turkey hunting start at 7:30 or very early morning? :twocents:

Yes- turkey hunting is very popular in the early morning.

You'd be surprised at how human certain animals and animal calls can sound- even when one is accustomed to local wildlife.
 
  • #245
LOL Bean, at the Caution!

I've been watching the hunting forums. ;)
 
  • #246
The reason why I asked that, is because blood can come from several sources in a human body-and the aging of it, as well as if it is mixed with other scents- plays an important part in K9 scent work.

It also plays an important part in DNA analysis.

In other words, just because the blood has been identified as Holly's (although that has not been released by LE) it does not mean there is not DNA belonging to another person(s) mixed in as well.

Thats all true but we have so little to go on. We both have access (if you can call it that) to all that has ever been said about the blood.

The family said it was Holly's; no one has said anything about a mixed sample
We can assume the blood was fresh from that morning
There did not seem to be a lot of it based on all accounts
 
  • #247
Thats all true but we have so little to go on. We both have access (if you can call it that) to all that has ever been said about the blood.

The family said it was Holly's; no one has said anything about a mixed sample
We can assume the blood was fresh from that morning
There did not seem to be a lot of it based on all accounts

A DNA analysis requires a comparison in order to identify.
There may not be a comparison for any other DNA in a sample- except to know that it is not DNA associated with the comparison used.
Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

IMO, it's very important to note that a statement along the lines of "it was Holly's blood" does not rule out other characteristics of the blood identified.

Does that make sense?
 
  • #248
For those who didn't know there are a lot of different "Turkey Calls" . This site has a bunch of them. I listened but didn't hear one that sounded like a person screaming. Maybe, you will.

http://www.nwtf.org/all_about_turkeys/calling_tips.html

Hunting is legal an hour before sunrise and until sundown in Tenn.
 
  • #249
Perhaps he parked a larger vehicle (truck, van, etc.) away from the house to distance his vehicle from the crime scene and used the ATV as the transportation unit between the Bobo house and his vehicle. If the perp has a van, he could've driven the ATV with Holly into the van, pulled the ramps up into the van, shut the doors, and driven off with people on the road having no clue that an ATV and a kidnap victim were even inside the van. The ATV wouldn't be the main vehicle, just a way to haul 🤬🤬🤬 to and from the Bobo's without having to pull up into their driveway and leave out of their driveway.


From the little I know, ATV's are pretty loud, they can be heard from a distance, not sure how far, but surely Clint would have heard one being driven or started up when he went outside after he saw them heading into the woods. Depending on how far the tree line is from the house, I would think he could have even heard a van or other vehicle starting up, unless he didn't go outside right away. And if that's the case, I'm curious why he took the time to call his mom instead of running outside to see what was going on and who was leading his sister into the woods.
I know all this has been discussed before but... it's frustrating!
 
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I think it’s logical to assume that KB tried calling Holly on her cell once KB was contacted either by Clint or the neighbor contacting the school. However, in all of the interviews I have seen, not once has anyone asked or stated if Holly was called on her cell to find out where she was or if she was in danger. IMO, the only reason this would be left out of the conversation is that some information may have been obtained from a voice call or text to Holly or vice versa.

Was Holly able to give her family a clue as to what was happening?
And if LE is not following up HARD on this clue, this could cause animosity from the family toward LE.
 
  • #252
If you back up a couple of pages here you will see this guys stories haven't panned out. The people he has claimed to have killed are still alive. I think he's an attention seeker...
This is probably the case that he is just an attention seeker but we do know that SK tend to play games with LE. I'm going to look at the glass half full and hope that this SK might have some valuable information about HB and he is playing games.
 
  • #253
What I don't understand (well, one of many, many things in this case) is why LE will not tell the family whether or not they found Holly's phone. What would be the reason for keeping that info "top secret"? Just a power play?
 
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A DNA analysis requires a comparison in order to identify.
There may not be a comparison for any other DNA in a sample- except to know that it is not DNA associated with the comparison used.
Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

IMO, it's very important to note that a statement along the lines of "it was Holly's blood" does not rule out other characteristics of the blood identified.

Does that make sense?

Well again the statements about the blood are pretty general... there was a small amount of blood found (I doubt two people contributed to this small amount) and her folks said it belonged to Holly. Thats it.

I think you are asking for the kind of detailed, cover all bases answers that are just not available. We can only work with some very general parameters here.
 
  • #255
in the youtube browser type this - JVM interviews the bobo's after u do that you will see 3 video's . the first one to watch is .005-AVI AND ITS 11 minutes and 15 seconds now part 2 of the same interview is 006-AVI to AND ITS 5min,34 seconds and the last one is 007-AVI and it is 3min 37 seconds ...if i new how to bring it over i would all i can say is go to you tube type in JVMinterviews the Bobo;s and there is the 3 vids u start with the 005 then 006 then 007 .....then you will have the whole interview and info of stuff i have been talking about...go to you tube and type in JVM interviews the Bobo;s ...all i can do to help ya out..i appologise but i know its there i can watch it over n over and over..there is 3 vIDEOS FIRST ONE IS 11 MINUTES SECOND IS 5 MINUTES AND THE THIRD IS 3 MINUTES WATCH THEM LONGEST FIRST TO SHORTEST LAST AND U WILL HAVE THE WHOLE INTERVIEW THEY DID ON jvm...
 
  • #256
The part of the interview I need to see is the part where she talks to Dana and the pastor. I've seen Clint. I don't know why I'm having such a hard time finding it.
 
  • #257
The part of the interview I need to see is the part where she talks to Dana and the pastor. I've seen Clint. I don't know why I'm having such a hard time finding it.

As I recall there is no part where she talks to Dana AND the Pastor

Karen, Dana and Clint are talking to JVM for I believe two segments, then there is the commercial break, and when the camera comes back on its Karen, Clint and the Pastor.

I found the transcripts more useful than the video as sometimes they mumbled and were not so clear. And you can see more easily when JVM would ask one thing and they would wander off and answer a different question.
 
  • #258
I dont know why people cant find them but they are ALL on Youtube... for some reason the link doesnt work

the video is entitled 007.avi and is hosted by this user on his channel : poizyn1





This is the interview including the pastor
 
  • #259
Lol, when I googled JVM on youtube the other day, the only video that came up at first was one about her "coming out" as a lesbian...which was news to me, but anyway...
 
  • #260
Lol, when I googled JVM on youtube the other day, the only video that came up at first was one about her "coming out" as a lesbian...which was news to me, but anyway...

just type JVM Holly Bobo
 
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