TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #27

[JeannieC]

I would think its fresh cause her father said it was Hollys blood

Yes, I know the blood was tested and proven to be Holly's blood I just wondered if it was from the day she disappeared (new) or if they knew whether it could have been there for a while.

 

[BeanE]

Has Clint ever stated (himself, not a reporter or anything) that he did not hear a scream?

 

[BeanE]

Didn't the neighbor call kb because the scream came from the bobo home?

There was one report that I recall saying the scream came from the house. Since I don't recall any other reports saying that, I have to assume the sentence was poorly written by the reporter.

I believe the scream came from 'the direction of' the Bobo home.

ETA: Correction to my post! Please see Frogzilla's post and the video. Karen says screams coming from the house. Thanks!

 

[Eileen730]

I had assumed that the scream happened later in the episode as well because it would explain why a neighbor heard a scream(s) but not CB. After the last couple of interviews with the Bobo family, I now believe the scream came from the Bobo home but it is debatable when the scream happened and here is why. KB says that when the secretary had come to tell her that a neighbor heard screams coming from "the house", I can only assume the neighbor had called KB because it came from her house, not the neighbors house. When KB was told of this, her motherly instinct told her that something was wrong. CB had said he talked with his mother in between seeing silhouettes and seeing HB walk away with camo man. Here is where it becomes confusing to figure out. If the neighbor called about screams before KB and CB had talked, before CB sees camo man and HB walking away, KB would already be concerned and would probably ask CB to see what he can figure out is happening. If the neighbor calls KB after she and CB had talked,
KB would already have a level of concern and hearing the neighbor call about screams from "the house" would be extremely concerning. The X factors in all of this is how quickly after hearing screams did the neighbor call to KB school and how quickly was KB able to learn that camo man was not DS.

1. CB was informed about screams coming from the house before he saw HB and camo man walking away- If this was the case then it is hard to believe CB did not try to at least see what was happening at his house. We do not have enough info on this to draw conclusions to this scenario, this part of the story is unclear.

2. CB sees them walking away and then his mother later tells him that a neighbor heard screams coming from the house- CB was fully aware of HB presence at home with who he assumed was DS at this point in time. In this scenario, CB is awake and HB and camo man are walking away, but somewhere around the Bobo home the neighbor can hear screams. Again, there is not enough info on this to draw a solid conclusion.

I see that several people are even questioning if a scream had ever occurred and that is valid IMO. Taking it at face value that a scream did occur, I would probably wager the scream happened after CB sighting of HB and camo man, but somewhere much much closer to the Bobo property than the neighbor property, and in this scenario CB is awake at this point. But without knowing the actions of the Bobo family after the initial call between CB and KB, there is no way to finish out a scenario without making big assumptions.

Only problem with that is if the neighbor heard the screams why didnt clint?

And i would think the neighbor would try calling the house first? got no ans and called the school.....

 

[Eileen730]

There was one report that I recall saying the scream came from the house. Since I don't recall any other reports saying that, I have to assume the sentence was poorly written by the reporter.

I believe the scream came from 'the direction of' the Bobo home.

I think this info came from the interview just before the JVM interview

they also said Clint quit school

Could this be why he was home when that last interview said he wasnt supposed to be home?

 

[Frogzilla]

There was one report that I recall saying the scream came from the house. Since I don't recall any other reports saying that, I have to assume the sentence was poorly written by the reporter.

I believe the scream came from 'the direction of' the Bobo home.

I have not seen CB make any statement about screams.

About the screams, from KB own mouth- "Neighbor thought she heard screams coming from the house" - Not very descriptive, but all we have to go on.

http://www.newschannel5.com/category/107465/openline?nav=menu374_9_5&redirected=true
Openline interview aprox. 8:50 into part 1

 

[Eileen730]

Has Clint ever stated (himself, not a reporter or anything) that he did not hear a scream?

Nope!

The neighbor did she knew something was wrong

Clint watched them walk off into the woods, He in my opinion should have heard the screams.

he sees and hears them in the garage.

I dont know none of it makes any sense

 

[BeanE]

I have not seen CB make any statement about screams.

About the screams, from KB own mouth- "Neighbor thought she heard screams coming from the house" - Not very descriptive, but all we have to go on.

http://www.newschannel5.com/category/107465/openline?nav=menu374_9_5&redirected=true
Openline interview aprox. 8:50 into part 1

Okay. I listened. You're right. Karen says screams coming from the house.

Thanks for pointing that out, Frog. I edited my post.

 

[Oriah]

Okay. I listened. You're right. Karen says screams coming from the house.

Thanks for pointing that out, Frog. I edited my post.

I don't understand this at all. (Frog- not your post- but the logistics of all of this.)

CB says Holly was last seen going N toward the woods. Swan Johnson has homes along it N- so I guess we can suppose that it was the Bobo's N neighbor.
But I truly don't see how anyone would be able to identify the location of the sound they heard, unless it was much closer to their N neighbor. :waitasec:

If the scream was heard from the S.... then... well.... let's just say I am confused.

 

[JeannieC]

Maybe CG didn't hear the scream because the dog was barking. A large dog can have a loud bark.

 

[MysteryAddict]

It could make sense that the dog started barking at the same time as the scream, thus
Clint woke to only hearing the dog barking loudly.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Clint has not spoken about the screams one way or another. Since most of what he has said has come from questions by TV interviewers, perhaps no one has asked him. Its frustrating but I get the feeling you could ask him about XYZ and he would say "yes" and then you ask well why didn't you say so?? And he would say well you didn't ask...

As per this interview:

http://www.wreg.com/news/wreg-holly...e-vanished-20110722,0,6800717.story?track=rss

Clint quit school AFTER Holly disappeared, and Karen quit work.

Holly's dog Rascal is not very big... hes a Toto looking creature

And for the people that think Holly wasn't at home that night Karen says when she got up she talked to Holly who said she got up at 4:30 to study... which indicates Holly was at home and not coming home in the morning as some people have inferred.

I would assume the blood was fresh. Clint noticed it as being there... he didnt say well I saw this 2 week old blood and got nervous about it. He saw (aparently fresh) blood...

 

[Carla Lashelle]

It could make sense that the dog started barking at the same time as the scream, thus
Clint woke to only hearing the dog barking loudly.

I wondered about that, although if someone were screaming loudly the conversation outside, quiet kneeling figures in the garage and rather normal, walk to the woods seem out of place. Im not convinced that screams so loud that someone living some distance away would hear them but someone in the home would not, even if they were asleep. You know how loud sounds can startle you awake. There is the possibility that Clint did hear them and has not said that he did. We just don't know

 

[JeannieC]

Clint has not spoken about the screams one way or another. Since most of what he has said has come from questions by
Holly's dog Rascal is not very big... hes a Toto looking creature

QUOTE]

I thought I heard HB's mom say, " The indoor dog" in one interview. Do they have outdoor dogs".

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Clint has not spoken about the screams one way or another. Since most of what he has said has come from questions by
Holly's dog Rascal is not very big... hes a Toto looking creature

QUOTE]

I thought I heard HB's mom say, " The indoor dog" in one interview. Do they have outdoor dogs".

They do own two dogs. Hollys is the little mutt creature and someone has I think a Golden Retriever.

 

[zpz1]

Nope!

The neighbor did she knew something was wrong

Clint watched them walk off into the woods, He in my opinion should have heard the screams.

he sees and hears them in the garage.

I dont know none of it makes any sense

I know I am late to this, but if the brother saw her walking away with a man in camo what did he do? Did he notify anyone at the moment or anything?

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

I have a ton of questions LOL

Do you think the neighbor tried to call the Bobo's home before she called the school after she heard the screams comming from the home

Eileen730,

Thank you for your questions. You and I are on the same page.

Here is what I have read to be the string of events: April 2011

>Neighbor hears a scream---calls Karen Bobi at her job
>Karen Bobo then calls Clint
>Clint says he saw Holly and (he thinks) Drew walking towards the woods.
>Karen says "that is not Drew"
>Clint hangs up calls 911
>Meanwhile Karen Bobo is on her way home, and after hanging up with Clint also calls 911 from cell.
>Clint has now gone outside, found blood spot, and is into the woods looking for Holly

This is the account from JVM interview--August 2011

>Clint awoken by barking dog
>Goes to window and sees two figures kneeling in garage
>Calls Mom at work --someone gets her, she comes to phone, and he asks what's going on, ref. the 2 figures in garage
>Karen Bobo say's Holly should be at school
>Clint looks outside again and sees (he thinks)Drew and Holly going into the woods
>Finds blood on carport
>calls 911
>meanwhile Karen Bobo has also called 911 by now

(somewhere in that account neighboe has heard a scream and responded by calling Karen or 911, not sure which)

These 2 accounts are ONLY my understanding of the early and recent stories of the morning of April 13th--

ANYONE Please jump in and make corrections where needed---I am sure there may be many, Thanks:crazy:

 

[JeannieC]

Eileen730,

Thank you for your questions. You and I are on the same page.

Here is what I have read to be the string of events: April 2011

>Neighbor hears a scream---calls Karen Bobi at her job
>Karen Bobo then calls Clint
>Clint says he saw Holly and (he thinks) Drew walking towards the woods.
>Karen says "that is not Drew"
>Clint hangs up calls 911
>Meanwhile Karen Bobo is on her way home, and after hanging up with Clint also calls 911 from cell.
>Clint has now gone outside, found blood spot, and is into the woods looking for Holly

This is the account from JVM interview--August 2011

>Clint awoken by barking dog
>Goes to window and sees two figures kneeling in garage
>Calls Mom at work --someone gets her, she comes to phone, and he asks what's going on, ref. the 2 figures in garage
>Karen Bobo say's Holly should be at school
>Clint looks outside again and sees (he thinks)Drew and Holly going into the woods
>Finds blood on carport
>calls 911
>meanwhile Karen Bobo has also called 911 by now

(somewhere in that account neighboe has heard a scream and responded by calling Karen or 911, not sure which)

These 2 accounts are ONLY my understanding of the early and recent stories of the morning of April 13th--

ANYONE Please jump in and make corrections where needed---I am sure there may be many, Thanks:crazy:

I am confused about one thing. You said the blood was in the carport. I thought the blood was in the garage which is a separate building.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I am confused about one thing. You said the blood was in the carport. I thought the blood was in the garage which is a separate building.

Clint said the blood was in the garage on the JVM interview. The garage is also attached to the house as per clint.

The house also has a car port on the back (?) and that may be where Holly's car was at the time.

The use of car port, garage and driveway have been real fast and loose in various reports

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

I am confused about one thing. You said the blood was in the carport. I thought the blood was in the garage which is a separate building.

I agree with Carla on this. One report even says blood and a coke can was in the carport. ONE of many different accounts. I have tried to compare the witness statements immediately following April 13th, and the most recent.
However there are many , many versions in between those two accounts. Actually even these two accounts have variations....so keep sleuthing!

Personally I can't keep up with all the changes, but am interested in others opinions and enjoy reading WS comments. Find them all very informative.
Inquiring Minds....and all that. LOL:seeya: