TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #27

[Carla Lashelle]

Thanks so much for this link. I am searching through videos for PICs of house, etc. Almost every pic from media is from afar. There have been no pics of property (close up) so far.

I found an old pic of Holly on a porch. It appears it is the back of the house because it doesn't fit the front pictures. I want to see the door and see if it is glass. I bet it is. The small porch as a wicker chair and some plants. The siding matches the rest of the house.

Also, in pics of the driveway, it appears all four cars can park in the front w/o a problem. Two trucks were in the front and a white car was on the lawn under a tree. No reason to park around the back of the house.

There are photos of the back showing what looks like a covered carport attached to the house . I posted a photo of holly taken I think next to the carport in the deck like area between the port and pool. This makes some sense if holly was seen walking/dragged across the carport as in the original reports. There is no car port in the front of the house, based on the definition of a car port. There is an obvious driveway around the north end of the house, going past the pool to the back bottom corner where the carport seems to be

 

[Carla Lashelle]

If you are facing the front door of the house the driveway goes to the right and circles around to the back of the house, past what appears to be an above ground pool, circles to the left, then left toward the house. It looks like you enter the carport to the right.

The carport appears to be large enough for several cars.


There is a picture but it isn't large.

Driving around the home the carport seems to be on the LEFT past the pool. The small shed on the right might be for a mower or ATV.

 

[Whisperer]

After looking at the cars and trucks parked in front of the house with room to spare, I have no idea why we are being led to the back of the house. The only reason could be that Holly ran from the front to the back....

If her car was in the driveway ( I assume it was) and if the "garage" is really the carport, than she may have run around the house to the back. At this point, there should be a struggle.

What is confusing is the darn turkey story. Where was CB sleeping when the dog woke him up. We will assume in his bed, but he never said. He could have been anywhere....but he did say he looked out the kitchen window into the garage. So was he near the kitchen when he was sleeping? I wish I had a diagram of the kitchen. This kitchen has a window into the garage (converted) AND into the carport?

 

[JeannieC]

The tree obstructs the full view of the carport. The carport is attached to the house.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

After looking at the cars and trucks parked in front of the house with room to spare, I have no idea why we are being led to the back of the house. The only reason could be that Holly ran from the front to the back....

If her car was in the driveway ( I assume it was) and if the "garage" is really the carport, than she may have run around the house to the back. At this point, there should be a struggle.

What is confusing is the darn turkey story. Where was CB sleeping when the dog woke him up. We will assume in his bed, but he never said. He could have been anywhere....but he did say he looked out the kitchen window into the garage. So was he near the kitchen when he was sleeping? I wish I had a diagram of the kitchen. This kitchen has a window into the garage (converted) AND into the carport?

I don't believe he said he looked out the kitchen window into the garage. He said he looked into the garage. How... We don't know.

The garage is not the car port. We had a local explain the garage here...

The carport IMHO is in the back

The kitchen window looks out the back of the house, between the car port and pool IMHO based on the few pics of the house and where the kitchen does NOT seem to be, ie the front.

Only one report mentions her car being in the driveway and it could be just wrong. Clint never said it was there in any interview to date. Clint also never directly mentioned the coke can.

The story makes much more sense if it happened in the back. I explained that a few mins ago.

The aerial photos of the house have news vans etc in the driveway. Hollys car does not appear in any overhead photos. Why? Perhaps it is in the covered car port in back

 

[Carla Lashelle]

The tree obstructs the full view of the carport. The carport is attached to the house.

Yes that's it. I believe the tree obscures the kitchen window but if Clint did look out he would have seen holly walking from the carport past the pool, heading northish.

 

[JeannieC]

I think I understand the confusion now. The garage that was originally built at the front of the house on the left was closed in and is no longer a garage. They don't have a garage. They have a carport in the back of the house.

That was what the local was saying the garage is a carport. Not a garage.

Does that make sense?

 

[MysteryAddict]

More confusion:

I don't understand how anyone can state the exact time Holly left the house (7:30 am.)?

The parents had already left for work, I don't think we know what time and CB was
sleeping until wakened by the dog.

 

[JeannieC]

More confusion:

I don't understand how anyone can state the exact time Holly left the house (7:30 am.)?

The parents had already left for work, I don't think we know what time and CB was
sleeping until wakened by the dog.

The 7:30 am is the time the 911 call was recorded and I believe that was according to LE. That time is on the TBI and FBI site. I'm not sure we have an exact time of the abduction either.

 

[Plumeria5]

More confusion:

I don't understand how anyone can state the exact time Holly left the house (7:30 am.)?

The parents had already left for work, I don't think we know what time and CB was
sleeping until wakened by the dog.

I wonder if it was usual that their dog would bark when people were in the back? The dog sensed danger for Holly.

 

[JeannieC]

I wonder if it was usual that their dog would bark when people were in the back? The dog sensed danger for Holly.

You could be right!

 

[OldSteve]

Drew's grandma wasn't talking about the evening before, she was saying that the night after she went missing was the first night they hadn't been together.

Thanks for catching this! Still wonder about the call that morning though....

 

[JeannieC]

12 hours after Holly was abducted the searches began. They began with a 5 mile square area using canines, ATV's, Air, horseback, and on foot. For the next 4 weeks searches continued in different areas.

New equipment was used in her search. The Tennessee Wildlife Resource Agency began using site-imaging technology to look for clues in local lakes and bodies of water.

Looking at the search maps it seems like they skipped around during the searches and possibly skipped some areas. I don't understand searches so I'm probably wrong but I'd love the hear from someone who knows how they knew where to search, why they would change directions in a search, and how effective ATV's, horses, and Air searches were/are in dense wooded areas.

What were they seeing during the search that led them to change directions?

 

[BeanE]

Thanks for catching this!

It's been posted a number of times, OldSteve.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I think I understand the confusion now. The garage that was originally built at the front of the house on the left was closed in and is no longer a garage. They don't have a garage. They have a carport in the back of the house.

That was what the local was saying the garage is a carport. Not a garage.

Does that make sense?

Sort of...

Greengreen the local said the "garage" in the front of the house had been enclosed and turned into living space. This would be the area to the left of the home's front door. You can see the driveway curve up to where the garage doors used to be... now its walled in with windows and no doors. Green said also the family called the "garage" the "garage" even though it was not used to park cars anymore. Thats just what they call that end of the house. We don't know what was done inside, but our garage is attached to our house and there is a door from one room into the garage.

It is assumed the car port is behind the house. I would assume there is a back door from the house or garage to the car port. I still think this is where Holly's car was parked.

We think of the drivewy to be the long paved strip in the front of the house, but obviously it extends around the back of the house too. So Holly's car could have been "in the driveway" and still been behind the house and not in front.

I believe Holly's car was parked out back. She went outside through a back door and was accosted in the car port or by the car port. Clint may have heard the voices when they were outside. Then the suspect took Holly back into the house via the same door she went out. This should place them in the garage. Clint confirms they were in the garage. They entered through the back. Possibly the suspect did not know Clint was at home. Once he got Holly in there, perhaps Clint spooked him and he hearded Holly back out and up the back side of the yard heading towards the woods to the North of the house.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

12 hours after Holly was abducted the searches began. They began with a 5 mile square area using canines, ATV's, Air, horseback, and on foot. For the next 4 weeks searches continued in different areas.

New equipment was used in her search. The Tennessee Wildlife Resource Agency began using site-imaging technology to look for clues in local lakes and bodies of water.

Looking at the search maps it seems like they skipped around during the searches and possibly skipped some areas. I don't understand searches so I'm probably wrong but I'd love the hear from someone who knows how they knew where to search, why they would change directions in a search, and how effective ATV's, horses, and Air searches were/are in dense wooded areas.

What were they seeing during the search that led them to change directions?

Reports about the searches were sort of frantic and scattered... I think several things happened

1) while looking for clues in a broad area, if something was found, say, to the East... then everyone moved over there to search with the assusmption that more evidence would be in that direction.

2) Some areas were not accessible. It was stated by the locals that posted here and Holly's family that some residents were not receptive to searches on their property so some areas were off limits

3) If LE was looking for a trail or had no idea where to look they fanned out and searched loosely over a broad area trying to pick up on something rather than doing a more intense, focused, search on a small area.

 

[~n/t~]

I wish a reputable reporter would have a one on one with Clint. Alone. No parents or pastor/spokesperson. It would be nice to clear up some of the misinformation out there and to finally get the true details of what really happened the morning Holly vanished. Q&A. No interruptions. One hour. No commercials. No other cases except Holly's.

Wonder if Levi can arrange for something like that? Levi? :seeya:

 

[TxLady2]

Sort of...

Greengreen the local said the "garage" in the front of the house had been enclosed and turned into living space. This would be the area to the left of the home's front door. You can see the driveway curve up to where the garage doors used to be... now its walled in with windows and no doors. Green said also the family called the "garage" the "garage" even though it was not used to park cars anymore. Thats just what they call that end of the house. We don't know what was done inside, but our garage is attached to our house and there is a door from one room into the garage.

It is assumed the car port is behind the house. I would assume there is a back door from the house or garage to the car port. I still think this is where Holly's car was parked.

We think of the drivewy to be the long paved strip in the front of the house, but obviously it extends around the back of the house too. So Holly's car could have been "in the driveway" and still been behind the house and not in front.

I believe Holly's car was parked out back. She went outside through a back door and was accosted in the car port or by the car port. Clint may have heard the voices when they were outside. Then the suspect took Holly back into the house via the same door she went out. This should place them in the garage. Clint confirms they were in the garage. They entered through the back. Possibly the suspect did not know Clint was at home. Once he got Holly in there, perhaps Clint spooked him and he hearded Holly back out and up the back side of the yard heading towards the woods to the North of the house.

Why would he take her back into the house? Unless he thought no one else was home. But it makes more sense to force her AWAY from the house, not into it, if she was already outside.
When Clint says he saw them in the garage, I am thinking he means the carport in back of the house, not the garage that was converted into a family room. It's possible that the door to that area has a small window in it, and he could have seen them that way. But if they were that close, he would have recognized that the guy was not her boyfriend and surely would have opened the door and confronted him, instead of calling his mother, unless he's a wimp and scared of his own shadow.
Everybody I know who has converted a garage into a room of some kind, no longer calls it a garage... it's part of their house, it's a room, not a garage. Yes, I know what people are saying, but that doesn't make sense to me, that he "saw them in the garage", if it's part of the house, and did nothing. IF they were inside this garage/room, Clint could have prevented him from taking Holly. One would think there would have been some object close by to use as a weapon. How many older brothers are going to stand back and allow their sister to be led into the woods by a stranger??
Not disputing your theory, just throwing out some ideas. This whole thing makes no sense, and it's frustrating!

 

[OldSteve]

It's been posted a number of times, OldSteve.

Yes, I know, but my noggin is a bit dense eace:

Still wonder about that morning phone call though, may not be nothing, simply concern about Holly's upcoming tests.... on the other hand, if there was a good interviewer, lots of the little loose ends could tied up.. IMO

 

[OldSteve]

Reports about the searches were sort of frantic and scattered... I think several things happened

1) while looking for clues in a broad area, if something was found, say, to the East... then everyone moved over there to search with the assusmption that more evidence would be in that direction.

2) Some areas were not accessible. It was stated by the locals that posted here and Holly's family that some residents were not receptive to searches on their property so some areas were off limits

3) If LE was looking for a trail or had no idea where to look they fanned out and searched loosely over a broad area trying to pick up on something rather than doing a more intense, focused, search on a small area.

So many searching, wonder if that was the best thing to do...