TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #28

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I just read that on Sept 4th there was a booth at the Darden Day Festival where a table was set up for people to buy T-shirts and pins with Holly Bobo's information on them. So they are still selling these shirts and pins. I wonder if they are changing the donation from collecting vacation money for when Holly returns to something else or just keeping it the same. Someone needs to contact this PI guy that was mentioned and try to find out what he needs to start looking for this girl. Also the 85K is still being offered too. I'm at a loss as to why the family is not using this money to hire an outside source to help found out what happened.
 
  • #323
I just read that on Sept 4th there was a booth at the Darden Day Festival where a table was set up for people to buy T-shirts and pins with Holly Bobo's information on them. So they are still selling these shirts and pins. I wonder if they are changing the donation from collecting vacation money for when Holly returns to something else or just keeping it the same. Someone needs to contact this PI guy that was mentioned and try to find out what he needs to start looking for this girl. Also the 85K is still being offered too. I'm at a loss as to why the family is not using this money to hire an outside source to help found out what happened.

One of the recent MSM print articles said something to the effect that money raised or donated was being used to help the family since Karen had quit her job as a teacher.

But yeah... I would hire a PI. And who knows, maybe they have...
 
  • #324
One of the recent MSM print articles said something to the effect that money raised or donated was being used to help the family since Karen had quit her job as a teacher.

But yeah... I would hire a PI. And who knows, maybe they have...

Does anyone know why she quit her job?
 
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No clue. Maybe something stressful happened in her life?

OK smarty. She was a teacher who prob made roughly 40 to 50K a year. From the way it was stated she quit which I find surprising. I can see maybe a leave of absence, but to give up her insurance and retirement? A just read that she was a teacher for 25 years. People lose loved ones everyday, but they still have to eat and pay bills.
 
  • #327
Does anyone know anymore about this logging road that Clint speaks about.. I tend to believe that he did indeed misunderstood JVM question about did the "blood trail lead anywhere?".. To which Clint answers "yes the trail in the woods leads to an old logging road".. I believe he did not catch the "blood" part of the sentence and only hears the part of "did the trail lead anywhere?".. And this is when he offers the info about the trail leading to a logging road.. He obviously assumes that JVM is already aware of there being a trail thru the part of the woods where Holly and camo man entered.. Thus confirming that the trail where they know Holly and camo man entered did infact lead to an old logging road.. Karen speaks in this sequence as well saying she does feel as tho there was a vehicle Involved.. Making me think that exact scenario could be very possible.. I need to know more about this logging road.. In all my early studies of the maps of this case in and around the Bobo residence I do not recall ever knowing about this logging road and I certainly don't recall ever seeing it actually on any if the maps??

I would be very curious to know exactly where the logging road was in relation to the Bobo home as well as in relation to the neighbors home who they heard Holly's scream(s).. I am seriously thinking it could definitely run closer to the neighbors property.. This of course would provide the ultimate location for the perp to have parked and hidden his vehicle from being seen at any time before, during, or after the abduction.. If it does indeed run closer to the neighbor's property this would answer so many questions that many have about how the neighbor heard screams but Clint did not, as well as it would also make sense as to why at that particular point that Holly would have screamed(quite possibly for the first time).. When coming out of the trail from her property onto the old logging road.. Seeing the perps vehicle and at that point he was forcing her to get in the vehicle, possibly even attempting to force her into the trunk.. This could have been her putting up a fight against being forced into the vehicle, she also would be familiar enough with that entire area to know possibly that she was within earshot of that neighbors home and knew it was her last chance at attempting to get help and attention before being forced into the vehicle..

Does anyone know details, info, map of this old logging road??? I think this is likely exactly where they went and was their predetermined destination when the perp and Holly entered into those woods at the back of the Bobo's property!!! It was likely where the perp had parked, walked the trail onto the Bobo property and waited for His chance to force or coax Holly back down that trail, onto the logging road where his vehicle was perfectly out of site from anyone and perfect area to be able to force her into it, as well as be the perfect escape route to get the hell away from the Bobo property without even being seen right there on Swan Johnson Rd..

I want to know everything about this logging road.. I want to know where it was entered from, I want to know where it's outlets were back onto the main roads and I wana know exactly what type distances are we talking that it was from the Bobo residence, off the trail at the back of their property and I wanna know what the distance and relation the old logging road is from the neighbors property that heard the screams..

This IMO is the answer to much about the how and where the perp entered and exited the Bobo property.. I believe he most likely was already on that old logging road pre dawn hours the morning of.. He would have under the cover of darkness have already driven his car onto this logging road, parked it, and walked up the trail from the logging road right directly smack dab onto the back part of the Bobo property!!!

This very much screams local!!! We are talking SOMEONE EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH THESE SPECIFIC AREAS INCLUDING OLD LOGGING ROADS AND EVEN THE TRAILS IN AND AROUND THE BOBO PROPERTY!!! I AM CERTAIN THIS WAS NO STRANGER!!! THIS IS SOMEONE HOLLY KNEW VERY WELL!!!!!!

Any info on this logging road would be great!!!!!
 
  • #328
Does anyone know anymore about this logging road that Clint speaks about.. I tend to believe that he did indeed misunderstood JVM question about did the "blood trail lead anywhere?".. To which Clint answers "yes the trail in the woods leads to an old logging road".. I believe he did not catch the "blood" part of the sentence and only hears the part of "did the trail lead anywhere?".. And this is when he offers the info about the trail leading to a logging road.. He obviously assumes that JVM is already aware of there being a trail thru the part of the woods where Holly and camo man entered.. Thus confirming that the trail where they know Holly and camo man entered did infact lead to an old logging road.. Karen speaks in this sequence as well saying she does feel as tho there was a vehicle Involved.. Making me think that exact scenario could be very possible.. I need to know more about this logging road.. In all my early studies of the maps of this case in and around the Bobo residence I do not recall ever knowing about this logging road and I certainly don't recall ever seeing it actually on any if the maps??

I would be very curious to know exactly where the logging road was in relation to the Bobo home as well as in relation to the neighbors home who they heard Holly's scream(s).. I am seriously thinking it could definitely run closer to the neighbors property.. This of course would provide the ultimate location for the perp to have parked and hidden his vehicle from being seen at any time before, during, or after the abduction.. If it does indeed run closer to the neighbor's property this would answer so many questions that many have about how the neighbor heard screams but Clint did not, as well as it would also make sense as to why at that particular point that Holly would have screamed(quite possibly for the first time).. When coming out of the trail from her property onto the old logging road.. Seeing the perps vehicle and at that point he was forcing her to get in the vehicle, possibly even attempting to force her into the trunk.. This could have been her putting up a fight against being forced into the vehicle, she also would be familiar enough with that entire area to know possibly that she was within earshot of that neighbors home and knew it was her last chance at attempting to get help and attention before being forced into the vehicle..

Does anyone know details, info, map of this old logging road??? I think this is likely exactly where they went and was their predetermined destination when the perp and Holly entered into those woods at the back of the Bobo's property!!! It was likely where the perp had parked, walked the trail onto the Bobo property and waited for His chance to force or coax Holly back down that trail, onto the logging road where his vehicle was perfectly out of site from anyone and perfect area to be able to force her into it, as well as be the perfect escape route to get the hell away from the Bobo property without even being seen right there on Swan Johnson Rd..

I want to know everything about this logging road.. I want to know where it was entered from, I want to know where it's outlets were back onto the main roads and I wana know exactly what type distances are we talking that it was from the Bobo residence, off the trail at the back of their property and I wanna know what the distance and relation the old logging road is from the neighbors property that heard the screams..

This IMO is the answer to much about the how and where the perp entered and exited the Bobo property.. I believe he most likely was already on that old logging road pre dawn hours the morning of.. He would have under the cover of darkness have already driven his car onto this logging road, parked it, and walked up the trail from the logging road right directly smack dab onto the back part of the Bobo property!!!

This very much screams local!!! We are talking SOMEONE EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH THESE SPECIFIC AREAS INCLUDING OLD LOGGING ROADS AND EVEN THE TRAILS IN AND AROUND THE BOBO PROPERTY!!! I AM CERTAIN THIS WAS NO STRANGER!!! THIS IS SOMEONE HOLLY KNEW VERY WELL!!!!!!

Any info on this logging road would be great!!!!!

Just to be clear, are you looking for info on the old logging road? :crazy:

Just joking around :) (at least its not another turkey joke)

(and yes, bolded by me) :)
 
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I need to know more about this logging road.. In all my early studies of the maps of this case in and around the Bobo residence I do not recall ever knowing about this logging road and I certainly don't recall ever seeing it actually on any if the maps??

I want to know everything about this logging road.. I want to know where it was entered from, I want to know where it's outlets were back onto the main roads and I wana know exactly what type distances are we talking that it was from the Bobo residence, off the trail at the back of their property and I wanna know what the distance and relation the old logging road is from the neighbors property that heard the screams..

!!!!!

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I believe it was Carla Lasalle who posted some maps of the Bobo home and the area surrounding the house. Possibly the logging road shows on some of these maps. Maybe she still has them or knows where they are located on this or a previous thread.


Carla if I'm wrong I apologize.
 
  • #330
Just to be clear, are you looking for info on the old logging road? :crazy:

Just joking around :) (at least its not another turkey joke)

(and yes, bolded by me) :)

:turkey: :gasp:​
 
  • #331
Do u guys think I made it clear enough that I'm very interested In this old logging road?? :floorlaugh:
 
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Went searching for info about the logging road that I obviously am quite desperate to find more info about.. And unfortunately after googling maps and bing and Mapquest and an atlas site I had zero luck and came back and search earlier Holly threads from when Clint first mentioned the logging road a while back.. I came upon Oriah's post below:
You cannot see the logging roads and trails on a google or bing map, or on google earth. You have to be on the ground in order to see them.

Not happy:(

Help!! Where did all the locals from this area go???? It's the only way we're gonna have photos or videos or Any perspective whatsoever about this logging road is with the help of someone local.. Help!!

I truly feel this road was used and I certainly would like to ATLEAST know where you can enter it from and where all it can be exited off from??!!??

Anyone??
 
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http://365.vtarts.com/2011-04-14/

I found these maps. Go below the picture of the guy.

You can see areas that look like small road all through the forrest/woods. Don't know if this will help or not. Especially since we don't know in which direction they walked into the wood............
 
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The JVM interview is the first time I heard logging roads even mentioned and they are not mentioned any other time. I don't have maps of them. Actually I have not posted any maps, just a helicopter photo of the Bobo house. I don't imagine these home-made, old, roads show on any official maps anyway. They are probably more like desire lines worn into the woods through repeated use over the years.

We had a couple registered locals here early on. I believe Green Green was one. They both bowed out of Websleuths about the same time and that was maybe a month or six weeks into things? I forget now...
 
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Does anyone know anymore about this logging road that Clint speaks about.. I tend to believe that he did indeed misunderstood JVM question about did the "blood trail lead anywhere?".. To which Clint answers "yes the trail in the woods leads to an old logging road".. I believe he did not catch the "blood" part of the sentence and only hears the part of "did the trail lead anywhere?".. And this is when he offers the info about the trail leading to a logging road..
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Well, yeah, I was looking for photos or video of the carport area and posted a video a few weeks ago, that for a split second, you can see the carport roof/back, etc. In answer to your question, immediately after that in the video, there is shown an assemblage of ATV's going down a logging road.

I'll go back and find my post with the video.
 
  • #336
Well, okey, dokey then, here is the video I posted weeks ago, 08-07-2011, #658.

I've posted over and over again that I think Clint said "garage" when he meant "carport" on the recent JVM program. I figured that he saw out the window of the house over to the carport where he saw the silhouettes or shadows of the figures. I said that would logically explain his descriptions.

At exactly 1:37 in the video below, you can make out from the aerial photograph how the carport roof is open as you face it on the lh side. It is very fleeting:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/holly-bobo-...ry?id=13375662

In this video, it is said Holly was taken from the carport. In this video it says Holly was going to her car. After the carport image, you see ATV's on what may be the logging road referenced.

I did take a screen shot of the carport, but couldn't get it over here.
 
  • #337
That video was at the link supplied above when I posted it.

Just want to add, that the sequence of events that Clint voiced, about Holly being led away from the area where her car was, to a blood trail leading to a logging road, mirrors the sequence of events in the video, showing the carport area, then the ATV's on the logging road.
 
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grandmaj, thank you for the link, I sent her a pm.

The last part of my post I wrote from personal knowledge.

bbm

Which post are you referring to?
 
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Just reviewing all the family photos of Holly. Her BF drew wears camo in almost all pics. Where is he? Has he ever spoke? So, according to the brother of Holly, the abductor resembles Drew at least in body type..and style of clothing.

I know I heard many saying lots wear them out there but in the group pics of holly, I only see Drew wearing them.
 
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