TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #28

[cluciano63]

Well, if the family knows something, they may be ahead of LE, as I am of the belief that LE knows nothing...I am not on board with the theory that a prominent family is involved, or whatever, and that they are being protected. Maybe LE did not get the real story from Clint Bobo, I don't know. But I don't think there is anything to go on in this case, as it stands. JMO

 

[SmoothOperator]

plaidmom, I, too have pondered on the anger that IMO one would naturally have a level of anger toward one of your adult children.. "if" things actually played out how they've relayed them to.. As in Clint literally having visual of Holly and whoever, even if he did believe it to be Drew all the more reason for him to have opened the door and walked out there.. It doesn't make sense to me as in the way it is told is that the reason that Clint did not walk out to the garage when he could see 2 silhouettes and hear voices(originally stated to have been raised voices possibly arguing).. It is described as tho the reason he calls mom is because he does not know who it is and so he calls her to see if there's someone that's supposed to be there or if mom knows who it possibly is.. Meaning IMO that it was fear that kept Clint from exiting out of the house and making his way toward where the two ppl were in the garage.. What level of fear.. Who knows but from the way it is described it is due to his not knowing who the two ppl were is what kept him from going out there and prompted him to make the call to mom..

So, if that were the case, as they've described it to be then when he visually saw the two emerge from the garage and are walking causally towards the woods.. His fears would have been completely quelled with him now positively identifying it to infact be his sister, Holly and her bf, Drew.. Why then at that point if this is truly how it occurred would Clint not then swing open the door and say hey guys! WTH are y'all doing? Holly, I just talked to mom and she says you were supposed have been at school already taking a big test? What are y'all doing???

The fear would no longer be present.. Not that the fear was ever great but moreso just unsure of who it was and didn't feel comfortable venturing out on his own to find out who it was he saw and heard in the garage.. But after talking with mom and learning it's Holly and likely Drew.. AFTER LEARNING THIS FROM MOM HE THEN SAYS THAT IS WHEN HE SAW THE TWO EMERGE FROM THE GARAGE!!! Fear immediately dissipates!! It's his sister and just as he says he sees with who he believes to be her boyfriend, Drew.. IMO with it occurring the way they have described ^above^.. I, as a mother would have a very real and deep seeded resentment and anger at my son's not having walked out to see what was going on with his sister and bf.. With any slight amount of fear that he had while they were in the garage and unknown who they were to Clint, upon his call to mom, and by the time he sees the two of them walking towards the woods there would have been nothing WHATSOEVER that would have him hesitate to open the door or step out and speak to his sister and her bf, who from Clints description gave zero indication of anything being "wrong" as they casually walked towards the woods..

So, I agree plaidmom, that if the scenario that they are telling to us, the public that occurred that morning.. If those events are accurate and true I believe that a mother would naturally struggle with some very real anger and resentment with one's adult son.. Whom from the account as we know it to be has no excuse, nor reason for not having opened the door and if not have walked out to Holly and who he believed to be Drew, then to ATLEAST have opened the door and as I said earlier him ask what the hell they're out there doing?? And that he'd spoke to mom and she says your supposed to be in class taking a big test, Holly!! So what are y'all doing out here?

I agree 100% this would be natural for one or both parents to have some level of anger and resentment for the lack of doing anything at all by their adult son.. ** Again that's if things occurred exactly as they are claiming that it did, as I just described ^above^.. Jmo, tho!!

 

[JeannieC]

I don't follow that case. Do the parents do interviews with a preacher sitting close by too?

No, they haven't done any interviews at all.

 

[JeannieC]

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Thanks, I'll take credit for making a GOOD FIND, because it was me who first noticed the coincidental dates and odd occurrences of this incident and began posting all articles available, and commenting about it starting on Thread #16, in APRIL!

I mentioned it once again here on this thread, repetitiously, because I HOPE THAT LE has looked into it and eliminated any connection to the Holly Bobo disappearance, because we have never heard the final disposition of what happened with this guy!

My apology. Didn't mean to give credit to the wrong person. GOOD FIND! It seems very curious to say the least. I have looked unsuccessfully and can't find anything on this either. I think it could be relative.

 

[CocoChanel]

I have followed this perplexing case with you all since the beginning. It is sometimes so hard to keep up with the discussion when so many thoughts and ideas are being shared. The sheer volume of posts is amazing, and so great, but daunting to digest it all.

I am encouraged that we seem to have a bit more freedom to talk about the inconsistencies we have seen. I appreciate that. I totally agree that something is behind curtain #3 that we are being kept from knowing. At the risk of sounding totally wacko, I have wondered about a scenario similar to the fairy tale Rumpelstiltskin. In that story, a strange man did a favor for a young woman, and in return, she promised him her first born child. The woman was heartbroken when years later Rumpelstiltskin returned to claim his repayment. In this case, I could imagine some sort of debt that needed to be paid by this family. I wonder if the morning of the abduction the Bobos knew immediately what had happened because it was something they had feared would come to pass for awhile, something that had been hanging over their heads but hoped would never come to fruition.

This is all 100% pure speculation on my part. And I have no specific details to plug in to make this fit. Just trying to find some sense in a senseless situation. I guess that's what we are all trying to do here. Otherwise we are left with random chaotic nonsense! :maddening:

 

[JeannieC]

I don't follow that case. Do the parents do interviews with a preacher sitting close by too?

HB's mother and brother did an interview and had their preacher with them. HB's father wasn't there. I think he was on for moral support others think differently.

 

[Hippy Chick]

I don't think this family is being truthful about everything that happened that day. That being said if they are not telling the truth why get on TV with this elaborate farce. Why not just keep silent as they had done since it happened? Thats so strange

 

[JeannieC]

I might stand alone but I believe they are telling the truth. I believe CB feels guilty because he didn't protect his sister but past that I don't believe he has lied. The people doing the interviews have never done a good interview. Never asked more than one question without interrupting and didn't asked further questions for a better explanation.

I would be a nervous wreck in front of a camera and so would most people. The fact is, Holly was abducted and might be dead. Based on statics, she probably is dead.

I feel for the Bobo's. Just imagine if it were your daughter.

Just like everyone else, I don't know who abducted her, whether a stranger or someone she met, or someone she was friends with. I only hope and pray LE knows a lot more than we do and can either find her alive or recover her remains.

MOO

 

[cluciano63]

I might stand alone but I believe they are telling the truth. I believe CB feels guilty because he didn't protect his sister but past that I don't believe he has lied. The people doing the interviews have never done a good interview. Never asked more than one question without interrupting and didn't asked further questions for a better explanation.

I would be a nervous wreck in front of a camera and so would most people. The fact is, Holly was abducted and might be dead. Based on statics, she probably is dead.

I feel for the Bobo's. Just imagine if it were your daughter.

Just like everyone else, I don't know who abducted her, whether a stranger or someone she met, or someone she was friends with. I only hope and pray LE knows a lot more than we do and can either find her alive or recover her remains.

MOO

I agree in that I also do not think the family has any idea what happened to Holly. I think Clint feels a great deal of guilt for reacting the way he did, even though there was really no reason for him to be alarmed, in my opinion, when he did not hear any loud voices or see any violence taking place. I think he really did assume it was Drew out there. No matter how close any family is, they wouldn't be aware of every person Holly knew from school or from other social situations, she may have known the person, but Clint didn't, i.e. I think her mother resents implications against Clint but is probably also secretly frustrated that he did not step in to see what was happening.

I'm still not clear where Holly was when he did talk to his mother; had she already gone into the woods? Or was he watching her while he talked on the phone? None of that is clear...it seems like Mom said she called Clint, not that he called her.

 

[JeannieC]

I agree in that I also do not think the family has any idea what happened to Holly. I think Clint feels a great deal of guilt for reacting the way he did, even though there was really no reason for him to be alarmed, in my opinion, when he did not hear any loud voices or see any violence taking place. I think he really did assume it was Drew out there. No matter how close any family is, they wouldn't be aware of every person Holly knew from school or from other social situations, she may have known the person, but Clint didn't, i.e. I think her mother resents implications against Clint but is probably also secretly frustrated that he did not step in to see what was happening.

I'm still not clear where Holly was when he did talk to his mother; had she already gone into the woods? Or was he watching her while he talked on the phone? None of that is clear...it seems like Mom said she called Clint, not that he called her.

I know there are some things that are confusing but since we can't see the house or the windows its hard to imagine exactly what happened. I just hope the catch the person responsible and bring the to trial.

I hope they locate her body if she is deceased or her. I honestly don't believe she is still alive but it is possible.

I do wonder about that guy from NC. That is very strange and I'm not wanting to accuse anyone but it is strange. He could have seen her on TV or in the papers with her cousin and found out where she lived. Might have contacted her through FB.

Might have visited the area or one of the churches since he was going to Bible College in Raleigh. I'm not saying her abduction had anything to do with religion. Just that his behavior is very strange. imo

The only thing that doesn't fit is the camo. I can't imagine him having camo unless he went out and got a full camo. jmo

 

[JeannieC]

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Thanks, I'll take credit for making a GOOD FIND, because it was me who first noticed the coincidental dates and odd occurrences of this incident and began posting all articles available, and commenting about it starting on Thread #16, in APRIL!

I mentioned it once again here on this thread, repetitiously, because I HOPE THAT LE has looked into it and eliminated any connection to the Holly Bobo disappearance, because we have never heard the final disposition of what happened with this guy!

NC COURT CALENDAR. You can look up the court date on him.

http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/www/calendars/CriminalQuery.html

 

[concentric]

I posted this article in April-May, somewhere around in there because I wanted to find out if Holly could have been put into someone's sights at a church camp or retreat, for example, and found this:

http://www.tnbaptist.org/BRARticle.asp?ID=3804

Through Corinth Baptist Bobo participated in Super Summer, a Tennessee Baptist Convention camp for teens, and a church missions trip to Mississippi to help people with special needs enjoy a camp.

 

[concentric]

When I first posted the news article regarding someone reported missing, the day after Holly goes missing, then a week later, running out of the woods at Smoky Mountain National Park going up to strangers screaming he had been drugged and abducted by 3 men and escaped, but it was later determined that he lied apparently, this is one of the first responses I get:

So maybe he didn't want to go to Bible college?

 

[OldSteve]

I posted this article in April-May, somewhere around in there because I wanted to find out if Holly could have been put into someone's sights at a church camp or retreat, for example, and found this:

http://www.tnbaptist.org/BRARticle.asp?ID=3804

Through Corinth Baptist Bobo participated in Super Summer, a Tennessee Baptist Convention camp for teens, and a church missions trip to Mississippi to help people with special needs enjoy a camp.

I remember you posting about this - and this shows that while many focus on all the little details surrounding Clint's actions that morning - there is a much larger picture we don't really know much about in terms of any and all places and people Holly was in contact with of seen by in the months, year prior to her being taken.

ETA: So what is your theory concentric about what happened?

 

[Prancy]

I don't think this family is being truthful about everything that happened that day. That being said if they are not telling the truth why get on TV with this elaborate farce. Why not just keep silent as they had done since it happened? Thats so strange

I have my theory of why, but I'm not allowed to post it here. I have no proof, so, I'll just keep it to myself. Maybe in time, things will come out. I'm sure there are others here who have similar feelings. Of course, you never know.

 

[JeannieC]

When I first posted the news article regarding someone reported missing, the day after Holly goes missing, then a week later, running out of the woods at Smoky Mountain National Park going up to strangers screaming he had been drugged and abducted by 3 men and escaped, but it was later determined that he lied apparently, this is one of the first responses I get:

So maybe he didn't want to go to Bible college?

Funny but not productive......(I'm quilty of that at times too....)

I think this is important information. I should have gone back and read all the posts when I joined but I admit there were so many that I skipped most of them.

You have my attention. I wonder what else we can learn about this. It just reeks of something more than a BC drop out, imo

 

[SmoothOperator]

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Originally Posted by CanManEh
I think that all the BoBo;s and the Le are all in on it the singer too...

Regarding the ^above^ post and whether it is joking or serious.. I believe(but of course could be completely wrong.. So please do correct me if I'm mistaken).. But I believe what is possibly meant by this post is NOT that all of those named ^above^ are "in on" Holly's actual abduction and are responsible in some way for her no longer being here.. I read it to be more along the lines similar to what the discussion was when the post was made and that was that several of us felt that there are many that are involved in this "case"(not the actual abduction).. But the involved in the case in general(including possibly family as well as LE) and that they are "involved" in knowing the true and accurate events as they actually occurred that morning of April 13th.. And that they are aware that due to somehow protecting the case, or even Holly, herself they are not publicly acknowledging or speaking about what truly happened that morning.. I think possibly thats more what was being expressed in this particular post(again, CanManEh if I'm incorrect or mistaken please dont hesitate to correct me)..

My thoughts are that I believe this is "possible".. Not saying at all that I'm certain and know for a fact that the family and/or LE are lying, omitting, editing greatly the events of that morning.. But rather do believe it's possible and would fit with many of the details that no one can make fit, make sense at all, and are extremely contradictory and inconsistent.. "if" this is happening I believe most likely that it would be all of these players that are "in on" this heavily edited and/or fabricated events of that morning, LE included and that they feel they have very good reason to have taken this path and feel it necessary that the public not know many of the events of that morning.. What those reasons or motives are I am not clear on yet.. I do have some ideas but am waiting and hoping we will see something come to light(purposefully or not) that sometime in the near future something relatively "small" come to light, but could infact be something that will lend credence one way or another on what's happened and is happening in Holly's case..

** I just want to reiterate that when I say I believe it's possible all involved including LE are heavily editing and omitting the accurate events of that morning.. I am not meaning In an unlawful or nefarious way, but rather just the opposite.. That they've concluded it to be necessary to with hold these events from public knowledge to benefit Holly and/or her case..

These are nothing more than my opinions, tho..

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

** I just want to reiterate that when I say I believe it's possible all involved including LE are heavily editing and omitting the accurate events of that morning.. I am not meaning In an unlawful or nefarious way, but rather just the opposite.. That they've concluded it to be necessary to with hold these events from public knowledge to benefit Holly and/or her case..

These are nothing more than my opinions, tho..

I would say I am one of those in this camp. I also believe, as OldSteve posted ,there may be many prior circumstances in the life of the Bobo's that may have culminated in the events of April 13th. We are not privy to any of this, nor should we be. Unfortunately, I feel, this makes the task of making sense of this case very difficult.

This case is just beyond my comprehension---then again ----it doesn't take much:crazy:

 

[nosyone]

Re:

Regarding the ^above^ post and whether it is joking or serious.. I believe(but of course could be completely wrong.. So please do correct me if I'm mistaken).. But I believe what is possibly meant by this post is NOT that all of those named ^above^ are "in on" Holly's actual abduction and are responsible in some way for her no longer being here.. I read it to be more along the lines similar to what the discussion was when the post was made and that was that several of us felt that there are many that are involved in this "case"(not the actual abduction).. But the involved in the case in general(including possibly family as well as LE) and that they are "involved" in knowing the true and accurate events as they actually occurred that morning of April 13th.. And that they are aware that due to somehow protecting the case, or even Holly, herself they are not publicly acknowledging or speaking about what truly happened that morning.. I think possibly thats more what was being expressed in this particular post(again, CanManEh if I'm incorrect or mistaken please dont hesitate to correct me)..

My thoughts are that I believe this is "possible".. Not saying at all that I'm certain and know for a fact that the family and/or LE are lying, omitting, editing greatly the events of that morning.. But rather do believe it's possible and would fit with many of the details that no one can make fit, make sense at all, and are extremely contradictory and inconsistent.. "if" this is happening I believe most likely that it would be all of these players that are "in on" this heavily edited and/or fabricated events of that morning, LE included and that they feel they have very good reason to have taken this path and feel it necessary that the public not know many of the events of that morning.. What those reasons or motives are I am not clear on yet.. I do have some ideas but am waiting and hoping we will see something come to light(purposefully or not) that sometime in the near future something relatively "small" come to light, but could infact be something that will lend credence one way or another on what's happened and is happening in Holly's case..

** I just want to reiterate that when I say I believe it's possible all involved including LE are heavily editing and omitting the accurate events of that morning.. I am not meaning In an unlawful or nefarious way, but rather just the opposite.. That they've concluded it to be necessary to with hold these events from public knowledge to benefit Holly and/or her case..

These are nothing more than my opinions, tho..

I like your post and would like to think that due to the reasons that you stated above, they think Holly is still alive.

 

[TxLady2]

Re:

Regarding the ^above^ post and whether it is joking or serious.. I believe(but of course could be completely wrong.. So please do correct me if I'm mistaken).. But I believe what is possibly meant by this post is NOT that all of those named ^above^ are "in on" Holly's actual abduction and are responsible in some way for her no longer being here.. I read it to be more along the lines similar to what the discussion was when the post was made and that was that several of us felt that there are many that are involved in this "case"(not the actual abduction).. But the involved in the case in general(including possibly family as well as LE) and that they are "involved" in knowing the true and accurate events as they actually occurred that morning of April 13th.. And that they are aware that due to somehow protecting the case, or even Holly, herself they are not publicly acknowledging or speaking about what truly happened that morning.. I think possibly thats more what was being expressed in this particular post(again, CanManEh if I'm incorrect or mistaken please dont hesitate to correct me)..

My thoughts are that I believe this is "possible".. Not saying at all that I'm certain and know for a fact that the family and/or LE are lying, omitting, editing greatly the events of that morning.. But rather do believe it's possible and would fit with many of the details that no one can make fit, make sense at all, and are extremely contradictory and inconsistent.. "if" this is happening I believe most likely that it would be all of these players that are "in on" this heavily edited and/or fabricated events of that morning, LE included and that they feel they have very good reason to have taken this path and feel it necessary that the public not know many of the events of that morning.. What those reasons or motives are I am not clear on yet.. I do have some ideas but am waiting and hoping we will see something come to light(purposefully or not) that sometime in the near future something relatively "small" come to light, but could infact be something that will lend credence one way or another on what's happened and is happening in Holly's case..

** I just want to reiterate that when I say I believe it's possible all involved including LE are heavily editing and omitting the accurate events of that morning.. I am not meaning In an unlawful or nefarious way, but rather just the opposite.. That they've concluded it to be necessary to with hold these events from public knowledge to benefit Holly and/or her case..

These are nothing more than my opinions, tho..

LE nearly always holds back certain things in any investigation, this is certainly not unusual. It is possible that they believe Holly is still alive being held captive for some reason, since they obviously don't have any evidence to indicate she is dead. OTOH, after this length of time, I am sure that LE fears that she is dead, and they need to find the body.
I do not embrace the theory that this involves some prominent family they are protecting, though. If the whole police force or sheriff's office along with the TBI is not crooked, then there is no way that they are going to protect some family, no matter how wealthy they are. My guess is that they probably do have at least one suspect but they are not going to name him until they have some solid evidence, which apparently they do not have.
As for the 'events' of that morning, there probably is very little left to tell, since Clint was the only person there besides Holly and her abductor. All they have to go on is what he has said. And IMO, if he was considered a suspect, that would have come out by now, I think.
Also, the family is limited as to what they can say on t.v. So are the media who interview them... they know what questions they are not allowed to ask, and they know what to expect for answers... this is nearly always gone over before the show airs, and it's to protect the networks as well as the case.