TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #28

[obody]

I could see, with the boyfriend, that he could simply be young, and devastated, and wanting to avoid the media. People react in different ways. He lost his best friend in a car accident shortly before this, too http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...olly-on-his-birthday?do_not_mobile_redirect=1

 

[JeannieC]

I hope that I can explain the dynamics of a small rural community in the south. This by no means refers to the south as a whole but I believe it does apply to Darden Tenn.

I moved from a large city in the north to a large city in the south. I met a guy from a small city, married him and moved to what he referred to as, “God's Country”. Soon after I referred to it as “God Forsaken”. I don't now. There was nothing to do, no where to go, they rolled up the sidewalks at dark!

It was very different for me and I didn't understand anything. Growing up we didn't have family near us so at holidays we were alone.

Suddenly I had his entire family which consisted of his parents, 3 siblings, grandparents on both sides. Thirty-two female first cousins and fifteen male first cousins on one side. Not only that, his father had 7 brothers and 4 sisters and they all lived within hollering distance to his grandmother. His maternal grandparents also lived with his parents.

It gets better, my husband went into the military three days after we were married and left me with his parents. The plan was for me to join him after basic training but, best laid plans of mice and men as the saying goes, I got pregnant right away. DON'T LAUGH!

Next, I wasn't allowed to go with him. He was shipped to another base, trained, and shipped to Korea. I didn't know a sole. I was miserable!

His family was great. They treated me like a daughter. His mother was with me when I had my son. Three and a half days of labor and she stayed by my side. When I went home she hired someone to clean house so she could help with the baby. She worked full time too.

His sister came everyday during lunch and bathed and fed the baby. Everyone was wonderful. I was never treated like an outsider. I was family.

We went to church together and so did most of the other siblings' families. Not all the same churches. After church all my hubby's siblings and sibling in laws came for dinner. It was like Thanksgiving every Sunday.

I had a hard time with people wanting to get to know me. I thought they were being nosy and later realized they cared. When my sister finally had a baby after trying for 10 years my ex's grandmother crocheted a beautiful afghan for the baby. The other one knitted a hat, sweater, and booties. They had only met her once but she was my sister so they claimed her too.

When my husband came home we moved to his Dad's farm. My husband's sister and hubby, and his brother and wife built down the road on the farm land. About a dozen cousins built on the same road.

We were close enough to be neighbors but not close enough to see what went on at each house. Some went to church, some didn't. Most did.

Church was a big part of most of our lives. Church youth groups, camps, slumber parties, vacation bible school. Big meals on special occasions at the church and inviting the preacher and his family to your house for a meal is normal behavior. In a small town (rural community) these things are very important. What else would the children have without the church. Who else would help when someone is ill, in financial need, going through a divorce, or dying if not for the church.

Its not a cult. Its a way of life. People helping people. Children mingling with other children in a safe environment. Giving them a place to go that is safe and fun. Teaching them to socialize. Families living close and being there for each other. Not a cult.

As far as hunting and carrying guns, many do hunt. They eat what they hunt. Its not just for sport but many of them enjoy hunting. I can honestly say I have heard more gunshots in the big cities I have visited and/or worked in than I have heard when I lived on a farm in a rural community. My husband (now ex-husband) never hunted. Most of his cousins did.

As far as the Bobo grandmother saying that was the first night Holly and Clint had spent apart I think I can explain what she meant by that.

It has nothing to do with them sleeping together. My father in law used to stand up when the sun went down and say he was going to bed, regardless of the time. He would say its night time the sun is down, time to go to bed. He was up every morning before the sun came up.

A lot of southerners who come from farms might say, “he came over last night” and it actually means it was dark or close to dark, not night as we might think of it.

Holly's grandmother would NEVER mean they spent the night together as in sleeping together. That would be something she would never talk about even if she suspected it. She meant they saw each other every day and it was dark or dark when he left. Therefore, in her eyes they spent every night together.

I hope this helps and clarifies things so you will have a better understanding of the rural community in Darden as well as the close relationship to the church and the pastor.

One other thing. In smaller communities many pastors lives off the offerings of the church, the church also has to operate off these offerings. It is not unusual to have a minister who works as a house painter, carpenter, sheriff, deputy sheriff, or any number of other things to subsidize his income and take care of his family. LE in small communities don't make a lot of money either so most of those who choose that as a profession want to work in bigger towns or cities. In other words, no one wants to work for free or peanuts.

I hope this helps and sorry it is such a long post. MOO

 

[JeannieC]

I hope my previous post will lay to rest many of the misconceptions some have had and also help to understand the culture of the area. This hopefully, will aid in your sleuthing.

jmo

 

[~n/t~]

I don't know that I find it so unusual that DS has not been seen or heard from. This was a very young couple, aged 19 and 20. They were dating, not engaged, though we had heard they were hoping to marry one day. Many couples their age while still in school don't marry until established in a career, and by then they have dated several others. I don't mean to devalue their relationship, but I would not expect the same level of devotion and public display of dismay that I would from a fiance or husband. IMHO

Spending every night with Holly (per his grandmother's comment) and the fact that he and Clint were also buddies makes it all very hinky that he has not participated in any of the events nor made any statements regarding Holly.

By all accounts they were very close. Not just Drew and Holly but the families as well.

Something isn't making sense to me.

 

[Oriah]

To the North of the Bobo residence (adjacent) lives a family that has at least 19 (adult) of its family living right there in Darden...speaking of a tight-knit community..wowza!

How many of Dana & Karen's live there?

Lots of kinfolk around. I guess you're either related or a best friend if you live there.

Could you please provide a link for this? And why it matters? TIA.

 

[~n/t~]

I was just reading about this jason everett nichols character. He sure fits the bill. He is 6ft and 210 lbs.

He stalked two very pretty girls in early April. He waited for hours in a parking lot.

Is it possible he followed Holly the night before and just waited in the bushes for her to walk out? It seems risky for a stalker, not knowing if anyone else was home though. He should have known, if he were watching the house.

Boy, he sure does have the M.O. and he fits Clint's eye witness description...hmmm

What else do we know about him? How close did he live to the Bobos? How long is he in jail for?

I think they may have the guy but don't have enough proof?

 

[Whisperer]

JeannieC. Thank You for the beautiful post about rural living. I cannot even imagine anything like that...as I was raised w/no family, so to speak. I never met an aunt, uncle, cousin or any grandparents, they had died before I was born. My father died when I was 5 and my brother died when I was 12. So this way of living is SO unfamiliar to me. It really helped to see and understand their way of living. It is foreign to me. Of course, I have read about these things in books but never really associated it with real life.

I can see why no one would suspect a family member or BF would do anything like that to Holly.

 

[JeannieC]

Spending every night with Holly (per his grandmother's comment) and the fact that he and Clint were also buddies makes it all very hinky that he has not participated in any of the events nor made any statements regarding Holly.

By all accounts they were very close. Not just Drew and Holly but the families as well.

Something isn't making sense to me.

I have wondered the same thing. If he has been at a search I have never seen him....not to say that I would realize that was him but you would think he would be seen with the family.

Am I correct that D and HB started dating the previous Sept? Maybe he wasn't totally commited and in love sts. jmo

 

[Whisperer]

Could you please provide a link for this? And why it matters? TIA.

Since it doesn't matter, I won't bother, I found it interesting that so many people with the same name lived in the same town. I can't add any name that wasn't discussed so.....

I was simply pointing out the number of related people living in the area. To me, it was astounding. To some, not interesting!

Sometimes people on threads go off point to have conversation with others.

 

[doublestop]

To my kge., I have never seen chairs in a carport. I am still wondering what he is talking about. IIRC he is the one that found blood beneath where they were sitting...er...kneeling..which is it?

I have always pictured them on their knees, sitting back onto their heels...which could easily be described either way, and probably the position I would have been in if I were looking at something on the floor (like the possible turkey) at that age.

 

[Whisperer]

What else do we know about him? How close did he live to the Bobos? How long is he in jail for?

I think they may have the guy but don't have enough proof?

Nickells:

I'm sure they must have discussed him here...haven't seen it yet..anyway, he listed his address as Holladay, TN. He said he was a contractor. His bond was $300,000 and he bonded out..

 

[JeannieC]

JeannieC. Thank You for the beautiful post about rural living. I cannot even imagine anything like that...as I was raised w/no family, so to speak. I never met an aunt, uncle, cousin or any grandparents, they had died before I was born. My father died when I was 5 and my brother died when I was 12. So this way of living is SO unfamiliar to me. It really helped to see and understand their way of living. It is foreign to me. Of course, I have read about these things in books but never really associated it with real life.

I can see why no one would suspect a family member or BF would do anything like that to Holly.

Thank you for sharing. I'm so sorry about your family. That had to be tough and I can understand how this seems so foreign to you. It did to me. Now I really miss it. All that was taken in my divorce so it was a double shot in a way. I never kept my sons from his family, ever. My in-laws still loved me til they died and vice-versa.

I wasn't a touch, hug person so it was something to adjust to. Believe me! I can honestly say they made me a better person and regardless of anything I wouldn't change it for the world.

Southerners are friendly and caring people. Honest. (Cept for us D## yankees) lol :floorlaugh: You do know the difference between a Yankee in the south and a d#m Yankee don't you?

The Yankee comes for a visit and go home. The D#m Yankee stays........:floorlaugh:

 

[JeannieC]

I was just reading about this jason everett nichols character. He sure fits the bill. He is 6ft and 210 lbs.

He stalked two very pretty girls in early April. He waited for hours in a parking lot.

Is it possible he followed Holly the night before and just waited in the bushes for her to walk out? It seems risky for a stalker, not knowing if anyone else was home though. He should have known, if he were watching the house.

Boy, he sure does have the M.O. and he fits Clint's eye witness description...hmmm

I can't find anything on him except a mugshot and arrrest, conviction info for a guy in Arz. Is that him?

 

[JeannieC]

If we all are facing the front of the Bobo house, in what direction did they walk to the woods? For some reason, I had thought it was to our right across the road but the woods in the video at that area didn't look thick.

Are the woods to the left of the Bobo home the correct direction?

Here a a google map with markers of different events. I didn't find which way they walked but I did see something I don't remember. It shows a location where they found a "warm car found with cell phone, gloves, and camo"

What kind of car? I really don't remember that.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=....679217,-88.175486&spn=0.006571,0.016394&z=17

 

[Advocate1]

I recall Clint saying he last saw her going North.

http://www.google.com/m/url?client=...kQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNF6rkhCs_jyccyzUTzdtbDSGiGM9g

So if that was the case looking at her house head on. It would be the opposite way of where the clearing is to the south on their property. I think the perp brought her around the side of the house where he had a vehicle tucked away out of her view from the house or carport. It would also be out of view of cars passing on Swan Johnson. I have always thought that this was someone that knew the family routine and should up that morning at the pre planned time. He wasn't out watching them leave or he would of known her brother was still in the residence. I think he pulled right in the drive and hid the vehicle out of view and blindsided her coming to her car. Now about the brother seeing 2 people kneeled/sitting/squating whichever this is just my speculation but obviously someone was bleeding and right there where he saw them. Holly could of fell and he could of been bending over with her, he could of been trying to clean up the blood. The blood would (did) cause a problem later and they didn't want that. He also could have injected her with a tranq and the brother happened to look when she was able to still walk... who knows. The use of force to make her bleed tells me this was NOT someone she would of went with willingly.
I think its beyong sad that it has been 5 months and the last 3 LE has not even commented on the case. When they did comment they contradicted eachother and made some very unusually statements. I definently think there is a lot more going on here. I really believe LE knew she was taken away in a vehicle and that is why roadblocks were not used because they were way gone already. LE would of never let volunnteers in the woods if they really thought Holly was in them with this abductor. So that means there were two investigations a inside and outside one. Now before you answer just ponder the question.
LE said the suspect was from the community and told people to look amongst themselves. With that being said could it be possible that we (the public) were being given misinformation purposely because that's what they wanted the suspects to think?

If we all are facing the front of the Bobo house, in what direction did they walk to the woods? For some reason, I had thought it was to our right across the road but the woods in the video at that area didn't look thick.

Are the woods to the left of the Bobo home the correct direction?

 

[mrsu]

What else do we know about him? How close did he live to the Bobos? How long is he in jail for?

I think they may have the guy but don't have enough proof?

Jason Nichols...he was discussed at great length. He was out at the time that Holly was abducted and I believe was familiar with the school she attended. He had approached other girls in the area around the same time Holly was abducted, police talked to him and said his alibi was checked out.

 

[JeannieC]

I recall Clint saying he last saw her going North.

http://www.google.com/m/url?client=...kQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNF6rkhCs_jyccyzUTzdtbDSGiGM9g

So if that was the case looking at her house head on. It would be the opposite way of where the clearing is to the south on their property. I think the perp brought her around the side of the house where he had a vehicle tucked away out of her view from the house or carport. It would also be out of view of cars passing on Swan Johnson. I have always thought that this was someone that knew the family routine and should up that morning at the pre planned time. He wasn't out watching them leave or he would of known her brother was still in the residence. I think he pulled right in the drive and hid the vehicle out of view and blindsided her coming to her car. Now about the brother seeing 2 people kneeled/sitting/squating whichever this is just my speculation but obviously someone was bleeding and right there where he saw them. Holly could of fell and he could of been bending over with her, he could of been trying to clean up the blood. The blood would (did) cause a problem later and they didn't want that. He also could have injected her with a tranq and the brother happened to look when she was able to still walk... who knows. The use of force to make her bleed tells me this was NOT someone she would of went with willingly.
I think its beyong sad that it has been 5 months and the last 3 LE has not even commented on the case. When they did comment they contradicted eachother and made some very unusually statements. I definently think there is a lot more going on here. I really believe LE knew she was taken away in a vehicle and that is why roadblocks were not used because they were way gone already. LE would of never let volunnteers in the woods if they really thought Holly was in them with this abductor. So that means there were two investigations a inside and outside one. Now before you answer just ponder the question.
LE said the suspect was from the community and told people to look amongst themselves. With that being said could it be possible that we (the public) were being given misinformation purposely because that's what they wanted the suspects to think?

This makes sense to me. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if KB passed the perp on her way out to work.

 

[Plumeria5]

I can't find anything on him except a mugshot and arrrest, conviction info for a guy in Arz. Is that him?

Last name is spelled Nickell. No, I don't think that is the same guy as his name is spelled Nichols.

 

[Whisperer]

His alibi checked out? Wow! I read he is married and I can't pass on what was said about his car because I cannot verify it. It also fits but now LE is saying he isn't their guy..ho hum..

How in the world did he get $30k to bail out of jail?

 

[Whisperer]

Last name is spelled Nickell. No, I don't think that is the same guy as his name is spelled Nichols.

Wasn't sure about the spelling but the guy's pic is there. He is a big guy. So if he parked on the left of the house it all makes sense. He may have even parked behind the storage shed.

I have a notion I was wrong about them going to the right of the house...I thought the woods weren't very thick there. So it is highly probable he walked to the left and northward towards the shed area.