TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #29

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  • #561
BBM:
Okay- I am truly wanting to understand this perspective from a SAR aspect, because I think our team could better assist families and friends of missing persons if I did.

I feel there is a LOT to lose.

I feel there is a LOT to lose when cases go cold and this one is headed that way or already has. It appears the Bobos aren't getting any answers from LE and are frustrated. Suggestions were given throughout the thread of things that can be done.
 
  • #562
I couldn't find anything about the fundraiser that was supposed to have been held yesterday in Memphis. Is that the one that was cancelled?
 
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Bumping Holly's NCMEC poster:
http://missingkids.com/missingkids/...seNum=1170175&orgPrefix=NCMA&searchLang=en_US

http://missingkids.com/missingkids/...NCMA&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US, with specific emphasis on this:

SPECIAL NOTE: This case was initiated pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 5779. The individual pictured on this poster was reported missing when he or she was between the ages of 18 and 20. Law enforcement has entered this case in the FBI National Crime Information Center database and has asked NCMEC to disseminate this poster.
 
  • #565
Hi Snowbunny..the Bobo's have to ask for any of them to help. It doesn't appear the Sheriff and TBI are doing any searching since Easter Sunday. They found something and called off searches.

LE had said earlier in the week - I think it was on Tuesday - that they would probably be ending the searches by that Sunday. IIRC there were tweets about through that week. You can check my Twitter archive for Holly's case if you like, and I'm happy to find the article from earlier in the week if you'd like.
 
  • #566
It was asked why money is needed for SAR when TES and other similar organizations don't cost the family a penny.

I have no idea what specific parts of a SAR team the fundraiser was meant to pay for.

From what I've seen, it looks like the 'birthday bash' was to raise money for that goofy SAR team that was turning in false leads, that the Bobos found out - perhaps from TBI? - that that's what it was for, and they put the kibosh on it.

Thank God.
 
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You're right. What facts? The only thing we're sure of is the pool of blood in the carport and her lunchbox being found. Even the scream was changed from a female hearing it to a male.

What lunchbox?
What do you all mean "like someone opened up a window and threw the items out in Darden" is that right? Is that where they were found?
What 20 year old girl carries a lunch box?
Most everyone I know, including myself carries an oversized bag with books, sandwiches, bottled water, or other beverage.

Did the location the items were found in seem staged?

Thanks.
 
  • #569
What lunchbox?
What do you all mean "like someone opened up a window and threw the items out in Darden" is that right? Is that where they were found?
What 20 year old girl carries a lunch box?
Most everyone I know, including myself carries an oversized bag with books, sandwiches, bottled water, or other beverage.

Did the location the items were found in seem staged?

Thanks.

It was some sort of canvas (I believe) bag containing her lunch, which was allegedly still intact, when found 6 or 8 miles (depending upon report) from her home. Either tossed from a vehicle, or placed there, apparently. No further details give, as far as I know, and the only item LE confirmed was found.
 
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What do you mean a fake? Its obvious the girls taped it and they arnt driving as they all look straight in the camera until the music starts and then start to dance and sing. My friends and I used to do "music videos" all the time to Janet Jackson when we were younger.
The blonde driving has been in many pics with Holly and is likely one of her closer friends.,

I mean that is a fake in the sense it is NOT like you and your friends used to do.
The car appears to be a set with the camera on the "dash". Have you ever seen a dashboard that would reflect an image? Every dash I've ever had was vinyl. It's flat like almost like a tabletop. The steering wheel is not placed properly. Go look at your car, look at any car, the wheel sits below the instrument panel. In this "car" there is no place for an instrument panel.

I can see no part of the car seats they are sitting in supposedly, but they appear to be one forward and one further back.
The "driver seat is actually the one that appears moved forward more, yet they are the one who would need the most space in order to lift their leg in one move to the contortionist angle needed to bring her left foot at that height parallel to her body seated in a car. Both do so, as if the dash which comes down fairly low on most cars, does not exist with ease.

I would say the leg portion looks photoshopped in, particularly for the driver.
The windows looked photoshopped into whiteout. Why?

The sound quality is terrible in keeping with a camera that has such obviously excellent pixel clarity. That does not compute.

It is meant to look like a normal teenage video of themselves lip-synching to a song. However, taken together and examined, I would say it was a set up.
The chubby, less attractive side-kick girl in the back, the two glamour girls up front, I would say, by their facial expressions and moves to the music, it was rehearsed and not spontaneous. Unless you think they often just sat in an idle car practicing for this one youtube upload. Preposterous.
 
  • #572
I might add that the bf, on a fb page of the two of them together also shows evidence of being photoshopped into the scene. He has a unitooth of his incisors. Teeth are very often good tells of photo tampering.

You might want to start over with this case and ask "Who is HB?"
Is this a starstruck family who wants to be in the limelight?

There seems to be no urgency on the part of LE or the family to do what would be normal to "find" her if nobody has seriously looked since Easter!
 
  • #573
I mean that is a fake in the sense it is NOT like you and your friends used to do.
The car appears to be a set with the camera on the "dash". Have you ever seen a dashboard that would reflect an image? Every dash I've ever had was vinyl. It's flat like almost like a tabletop. The steering wheel is not placed properly. Go look at your car, look at any car, the wheel sits below the instrument panel. In this "car" there is no place for an instrument panel.

I can see no part of the car seats they are sitting in supposedly, but they appear to be one forward and one further back.
The "driver seat is actually the one that appears moved forward more, yet they are the one who would need the most space in order to lift their leg in one move to the contortionist angle needed to bring her left foot at that height parallel to her body seated in a car. Both do so, as if the dash which comes down fairly low on most cars, does not exist with ease.

I would say the leg portion looks photoshopped in, particularly for the driver.
The windows looked photoshopped into whiteout. Why?

The sound quality is terrible in keeping with a camera that has such obviously excellent pixel clarity. That does not compute.

It is meant to look like a normal teenage video of themselves lip-synching to a song. However, taken together and examined, I would say it was a set up.
The chubby, less attractive side-kick girl in the back, the two glamour girls up front, I would say, by their facial expressions and moves to the music, it was rehearsed and not spontaneous. Unless you think they often just sat in an idle car practicing for this one youtube upload. Preposterous.


BBM:
Not to me they don't. You can clearly see vehicles passing behind.
 
  • #574
I know it's hard to get people up to speed when they haven't followed each post. I'm hoping someone can answer a couple questions for me.

1. When HB was being led out of property, which way does that mean? The back of the property appears to head to water and thick trees, to the right would be a dead end etc.
2. It's so hard to see, actually impossible to see, layout of house on maps. Anyone have a better photo or house picture?
 
  • #575
BBM:
Not to me they don't. You can clearly see vehicles passing behind.

Only out of one window. If you could see traffic out of the driver's window, then why not to the same degree out the back window? Or what is outside the passenger window.

Car windows are notorious places for inserting "passing scenes". It's done in movies and tv shows everyday. You can also find examples all over youtube of the fake things people pretend to see outside the windows of cars.

It is the inconsistency of only being ONE window that has outdoor scenes visible.
 
  • #576
It occured to me also that most of the random photos of HB appear to be from a modeling portfolio and not someone preparing for a nursing career.

It all seems very suspect to me, every single thing I continue to read on this case.
 
  • #577
It occured to me also that most of the random photos of HB appear to be from a modeling portfolio and not someone preparing for a nursing career.

It all seems very suspect to me, every single thing I continue to read on this case.

That's an interesting observation, the modeling portfolio. Still, it'd be hard to snap a random shot of Holly and not see it as portfolio-worthy as she's a very pretty girl.

One does wonder about the inner tensions of a family, but that's something those outside it can never really know.
 
  • #578
From what I've seen, it looks like the 'birthday bash' was to raise money for that goofy SAR team that was turning in false leads, that the Bobos found out - perhaps from TBI? - that that's what it was for, and they put the kibosh on it.

Thank God.

How do you know that's what it was for? I haven't seen anything in MSM about a "goofy" SAR team.
 
  • #579
What lunchbox?
What do you all mean "like someone opened up a window and threw the items out in Darden" is that right? Is that where they were found?
What 20 year old girl carries a lunch box?
Most everyone I know, including myself carries an oversized bag with books, sandwiches, bottled water, or other beverage.

Did the location the items were found in seem staged?

Thanks.

Lunchbox or lunchbag is what I saw mentioned in MSM
 
  • #580
Was it ever confirmed by the Nursing School or professor that there was indeed an exam that morning?
 
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