TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #32

[nosyone]

I really enjoy reading the posts on this board! I learn so much from all of your theories and ideas. Dana has been mentioned several times and from your posts I was thinking about the reaction of my dad if this had happened to me. He would NOT be silent, he would not sit passively by and let my mom do the talking. He rightly or wrongly would be telling the perp just exactly what he was going to do to him when he caught up with him and that he WOULD catch up with him. The whole family's demeanor has certainly been strange to me!

 

[deca]

I have been following this case on and off.

It seems like some of you here think that it is a local perp that the rest of the town in covering for. If that is the case, why do you think the Bobos are going along with the coverup?
Surely the fate of their daughter outweighs being friendly with the "townsfolk". Heck, they could move if they felt threatened into silence.

I am not trying to be snarky, just honestly want your opinions/theories about why the Bobos would go along with this.

 

[OldSteve]

I have been following this case on and off.

It seems like some of you here think that it is a local perp that the rest of the town in covering for. If that is the case, why do you think the Bobos are going along with the coverup?
Surely the fate of their daughter outweighs being friendly with the "townsfolk". Heck, they could move if they felt threatened into silence.

I am not trying to be snarky, just honestly want your opinions/theories about why the Bobos would go along with this.

I agree with you, especially after seeing how upset Holly's mom was in that first interview right after Holly was taken. It was one of the most heart-wrenching scenes I've seen - you could feel her pain!

I have to believe that if they thought there was a conspiracy by townsfolk that they would have long since moved away.

 

[wfgodot]

Sometimes situations exist in small towns which are known to some, and these know well enough the possible effects of talking about them that they do not speak freely of them to others.

 

[MizStery]

I am not posting this to be flipitant. But,in answer to the above question by poster deca,it might be as simple as the old adage or proverb that "Denial is not just a river in Egypt". Not unlike ....the elephant in the room everyone tiptoes around but does not acknowledge. A culture of of keeping secrets so ingrained that nothing can break the taboo.

But,you ask yourself in the case of a missing person? I think the mind is very powerful even able to change what reality is.......particularly in things it can or cannot accept or process.

Some personalities,enable others (in the misguided notion of duty) to remain unaccountable. They perpetrate codependency rather than accountability. In conclusion,it could any or some or all the above or even none of the above. JMO

 

[wishuwerehere]

I am not posting this to be flipitant. But,in answer to the above question by poster deca,it might be as simple as the old adage or proverb that "Denial is not just a river in Egypt". Not unlike ....the elephant in the room everyone tiptoes around but does not acknowledge. A culture of of keeping secrets so ingrained that nothing can break the taboo.

But,you ask yourself in the case of a missing person? I think the mind is very powerful even able to change what reality is.......particularly in things it can or cannot accept or process.

Some personalities,enable others (in the misguided notion of duty) to remain unaccountable. They perpetrate codependency rather than accountability. In conclusion,it could any or some or all the above or even none of the above. JMO

BBM - I was thinking of this word regarding this case before I read your post.

On the morning she disappeared, in the caport, Holly came face to face with someone who is very close to her. The situation got out of control. (What situation? Well, that is what I believe is being left out of the narrative.)

DENIAL - IMO, it has circled this case from the beginning.

I also feel that religion plays a big part in this case. I believe religion is muddying the waters. If the Bobo family weren't churchgoers and if the community wasn't so populated by church doctrine, would many people be viewing this case differently?

JMO

 

[nosyone]

I also feel that religion plays a big part in this case. I believe religion is muddying the waters. If the Bobo family weren't churchgoers and if the community wasn't so populated by church doctrine, would many people be viewing this case differently?

JMO[/quote]


I find this thought so interesting, can you expand on your thoughts about religion muddying the waters? It certainly could explain some things!

 

[shefner]

The dynamics of small-town life....where do we begin?

The Bobo's are in a tenuous and delicate position. I am sure there is some fear involved. And regardless of what they say to the press, they surely have a suspicious theory.

 

[wishuwerehere]

I would like to back up my statement why I believe Holly knew her abductor well. If Clint is to be believed, he has stated, at least initially, he saw Holly walking with Drew into the woods. From what I understand, Clint never did see the perp’s face. So that leads me to believe that Clint was watching body language and how Holly was interacting with the perp. There must have been some type of familiarity between Holly and the perp that Clint picked up on (even if it was subconsciously) to assume it was Drew (or a cousin, or someone else Holly knew closely). IMO Clint is telling us, in his own way, that Holly knew her abductor.

This leads me back to Holly’s church membership/religious life. If the perp is in fact someone (or their family) who belongs to the same church as Holly, would someone who may have info about the perp and Holly feel safe and confident enough to come forward? What if the person with info is also a church member? Couple that with two of the Bobo family spokesmen have been pastors. Triple that with the sheriff is also a church pastor and at the initial press conference was sobbing about Holly being missing.

Also, are things in this investigation being overlooked because church/religion is entrenched in this case? Because to some, church authority (and anyone connected with it) is above reproach?

jmo

 

[Chili Fries]

I grew up in a small town in Alabama and live in a different small town in northern Alabama now and I don't think there's any small town conspiracies going on here, especially with the TBI so heavily involved in such a high profile case. I do know that people in small towns know who the local creeps are and where the local drug houses are and that type of thing. And I'm sure that everybody has an opinion of who the perp is. I also know that a local boy posted on his Facebook about police watching him not long after Holly went missing so I'm sure LE has taken a serious look at many different locals.

Maybe LE have a strong single local suspect, maybe they are still very suspicous of multiple locals. I wouldn't be surprised if this is like Shawn Hornbeck's case, where LE don't really have anything at all. In that case they were grasping at straws by looking at a local weirdo who had been trying to insert himself in the case and who had a truck the same color as the description of the kidnapper's truck. However, in the Hornbeck case the perp turned out to be a guy who didn't live in the area and who didn't have a record. I don't buy that Holly's kidnapper has to be a local because he knew the area roads and knew Holly's property. An outdoorsman good with maps wouldn't have a problem with those things, especially if he had cased the area beforehand.

Also, I was impressed by the turnout at the recent gatherings to mark Holly being gone for one year...that certainly isn't a community that is going to try to systematically hide stuff. I'm sure individuals would, we see that in many cases, but I don't think there's anything nefarious going on in the community as a whole.

 

[MizStery]

I would first like to thank Mr. Noatak and smooth operator for their timelines.

I appreciate that each poster brings a unique point of view to this case.

I have a theory,but I am open to discussion and debate on every aspect of Holly's abduction.


To be honest ...I dread pouring over Mr. Notak's timeline ...yet again. I swore the last time I went down that rabbit hole I never wanted to go through the agony of puzzling over it....ever again. But,here I am....bring it on!

I want to repeat that I welcome any and all theories. JMO

 

[deca]

I am open to it being a local OR an outsider at this point. I also think the small town conspiracy angle would be a long shot (agree with ChiliFries). I spent some years in a town smaller than Darden and just don't see EVERYONE going along with some sort of party line. There were always outspoken/against the grain type of people and I think those types would be coming out of the wordwork if they thought there was a coverup in their hometown.

That being said, I think it is possible that there is some sort of denial (as stated by MizStery) on the part of the Bobos.

 

[wfgodot]

Remember: we may not only be dealing with a very small town like Darden (population 820) or even its nearby neighbor, Parsons (pop. 2373); a plot and subsequent conspiracy of silence does not have to have its actual genesis in these places alone. If something nefarious is afoot - not saying it is, but if - its tendrils may stretch much further in Tennessee. I think someone local to the region and known to Holly took her. But for what purpose; and was it he alone who originated the plan?

 

[deca]

Sorry for the double post..

Does anyone have some wild "shot in the dark" theories? This isn't one I necessarily believe in- but what if HB was involved with some local drug dealer? It could be a friend or acquaintance she occasionally bought from. Dealer came to argue with her about money or something and things got out of hand.
The family is pretty sure who it is, but doesn't want to pursue it because they feel she brought it on herself (moral issue)?

I think it is HIGHLY unlikely since it seems like HB wasn't into that- but I just am trying to find some other scenarios that would fit the situation since there has been no new clues since forever.

 

[wfgodot]

I find it possible that, even in a small town or perhaps especially in a small town, Holly could fall into possession of knowledge of something about which one might rather not know, and that that knowledge ultimately led to the kidnapping in a "she knows too much" type of way. In small towns where everyone knows one another, it's easy to overhear certain things.

 

[wishuwerehere]

I’m not speaking of a complete town conspiracy.

I’m talking about multiple “church families” in a community and how that type of environment can possibly, and inadvertently, foster secrecy amongst groups. Someone could possibly be covering for the perp in this case and not even realize it. After all, “so-and-so is a good Christian and goes to church. He would never have anything to do with it.” I have been wondering for some time now if the small town church community is hindering the investigation inadvertently in a way that people may not even be aware?

Mentality, not conspiracy.

JMO

 

[cluciano63]

I am just going to hope Holly is found...
I can't read the timelines again...nothing makes sense. I don't believe in conspiracies. I DO believe in narrow-minded and possessive LEA's however.
Hope this will one day be solved...not overly optimistic.
JMO

 

[wfgodot]

I am just going to hope Holly is found...
I can't read the timelines again...nothing makes sense. I don't believe in conspiracies. I DO believe in narrow-minded and possessive LEA's however.
Hope this will one day be solved...not overly optimistic.
JMO

Conspiracies through the ages are proven things. I'm not at all saying one exists here, just having a go at the possibility as it gets us away from eternal discussion about what happened initially, that morning, when Holly was....well, whatever. Definitely agree with you on the LEA's, that was my main b i t c hing point for most of last year, and still is my favorite theory for why the case is unsolved after that year.

 

[houndstooth]

I am just going to hope Holly is found...
I can't read the timelines again...nothing makes sense. I don't believe in conspiracies. I DO believe in narrow-minded and possessive LEA's however.
Hope this will one day be solved...not overly optimistic.
JMO

I am going to respectfully disagree.
All a conspiracy means is two or more people made plans and carried them
out in secret.
It's common as dirt.
It's also a common criminal offense.
There are millions of counts of conspiracy to be found in cases.
The actual crime and then "conspiracy" to commit the crime.

There are all sorts of conspiracies that abound, from high political kinds of backroom deals done, to corporate crimes and deceptions and frauds, to crimes involving murder, arson, kidnapping, among many.

I do think there is most definitely a conspiracy of silence in this case.

 

[cluciano63]

I am going to respectfully disagree.
All a conspiracy means is two or more people made plans and carried them
out in secret.
It's common as dirt.
It's also a common criminal offense.
There are millions of counts of conspiracy to be found in cases.
The actual crime and then "conspiracy" to commit the crime.

There are all sorts of conspiracies that abound, from high political kinds of backroom deals done, to corporate crimes and deceptions and frauds, to crimes involving murder, arson, kidnapping, among many.

I do think there is most definitely a conspiracy of silence in this case.

I am talking about in the sense of an entire town or parish being "in" on it, and no one having the guts to come forward because of some great fear of the person, or fear of rocking the boat, etc...

I do think this is a one-person crime, but would not be adverse to thinking that two people could be involved or know about it.