TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #33

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She might not be the same lady, i.e. Mrs. Wise; she could be an entirely different witness.

This lady is petite, with short blonde/grayish hair. She did not mention a son in the interview.

I guess it doesn't really matter now. We have no way to confirm if there was or wasn't a scream or where the scream came from anyway. I have very little faith in eye witnesses and even less faith in ear witnesses so to me the scream is kind of a useless "fact" in this case.
 
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Thank you for the link. I was saying that it was the TBI who said she was drug across the carport.
I know. But either the press officer is directly quoting Clint there, or does not know how to conjugate the verb "to drag" herself. That press release is a mess, as are several.

In 2011 (from 13 April till 31 December), four out of 92 TBI press releases were about the Bobo matter; in 2012 (From 01 January till 08 July), zero out of 56 have been about it. That's four out of 148 to date since the kidnapping occurred.

And nothing since 18 April 2011.

One wonders what cards they're playing close to their vest. I say it's a pair of threes, a four, a six, and a jack.
 
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She might not be the same lady, i.e. Mrs. Wise; she could be an entirely different witness.

This lady is petite, with short blonde/grayish hair. She did not mention a son in the interview.

Karen, from looking at the bird's eye view, I don't think the Bobo's have any other neighbors fairly close to them. I will double check that.
 
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From a news interview one year after the abduction...

I had missed this paragraph before:
Karen Bobo showed News Channel 3 the exact spots in their garage where blood was found by Holly’s parked Mustang. She also pointed out the area where Holly was last seen being led into the woods by a man in camouflage.

Note there are "spots" of blood meaning plural sites within the garage "by" the car.

From other reports, there was a spilled coke.

So when Holly exited her home that morning, she had in her hands (at the least) a white lunch purse filled with a lunch,a coke to drink then, a pink purse that held a camera and other personal items, car keys, and school books. She may have had some items in a book bag, as all that seems impossible to carry.

If you stop the Video at around 47 to 48 seconds, you can see the window in the door that Clint was looking out when he saw Holly being led away.

Video link
http://wreg.com/2012/04/09/one-year-since-holly-bobo-vanished-has-been-a-nightmare/
 
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Karen, from looking at the bird's eye view, I don't think the Bobo's have any other neighbors fairly close to them. I will double check that.

Does anyone know where we might access the video interview with the neighbor lady? I have been unable to find it!
 
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Does anyone know where we might access the video interview with the neighbor lady? I have been unable to find it!

I have tried too with no luck!
 
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Karen, from looking at the bird's eye view, I don't think the Bobo's have any other neighbors fairly close to them. I will double check that.

There is a house directly to the south of the Bobo home, on the same side of the road. I think this is the Wise property.

I have not seen a video online of the HLN news interview of the lady who heard the screams. I recorded it with my dvr.
 
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There is a house directly to the south of the Bobo home, on the same side of the road. I think this is the Wise property.

I have not seen a video online of the HLN news interview of the lady who heard the screams. I recorded it with my dvr.

Yes, that is right. I thought her son was the one who heard the scream/s.
 
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Yes, that is right. I thought her son was the one who heard the scream/s.

That is what was reported, yes.

I remember that on the property map, this house is identified as the Wise family home. It is 0.1 mile to the south of the Bobo property.

Our closest neighbor to the south is 0.5 miles away. In the summer I can hear their children talking in their yard.
 
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One can clearly see there is a path from the South of the house. I imagine this road goes leads to Swan Johnson.

Did the perp come from the South using that path? Has to be somebody that knows those back roads pretty well. We know the Bobos and the Wise family have to know the back roads but who else knows them? It looks like a well-worn road on the map. I bet there are others we can't see.
 
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One can clearly see there is a path from the South of the house. I imagine this road goes leads to Swan Johnson.

Did the perp come from the South using that path? Has to be somebody that knows those back roads pretty well. We know the Bobos and the Wise family have to know the back roads but who else knows them? It looks like a well-worn road on the map. I bet there are others we can't see.

I'm going to guess anybody that has ever hunted in that area. My understanding is the property is used for hunting. So who was hunting that day in the area? I guess it would be impossible to know.

Are there game wardens who watch over the hunters? Is that what they're called or do they not have them on private property? I know nothing about hunting or fishing. I just know people need to get licenses for this type of sport/activity.
 
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I have tried too with no luck!

I have tried also but no luck either. I know many articles and videos are no longer available. One example was an article in the Tennessean which was transcribed onto a blog but the original is gone.
 
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Am hoping the labeled photos above will better help with understanding. Not certain at all the importance of knowing but believe we should all be on an even playing field of the basics of that morning. The direction being one of those basics..

If there is still confusion then look at the aerial photo.. locate the Bobo's driveway. Now take your finger and place it on the drive way.. start moving your finger forward as a car would in traveling up the driveway toward the Bobo home.. continue your finger moving forward as if the driveway did not stop.. meaning straight forward over the home.. keep going forward with your finger over the pool.. where your finger is pointing and continuing forward is the basic direction that Holly/male were seen walking and also where we see Karen/reporter walking in the photo below the aerial...
ETA:NEON GREEN LINE WITH ARROW IS INDICATING WHERE YOUR FINGER TRAVELS AS DESCRIBED ABOVE..
green_arrow.jpg

Clint said there is a logging road. Can someone explain what that means, please. I don't want to guess.
 
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I know. But either the press officer is directly quoting Clint there, or does not know how to conjugate the verb "to drag" herself. That press release is a mess, as are several.

In 2011 (from 13 April till 31 December), four out of 92 TBI press releases were about the Bobo matter; in 2012 (From 01 January till 08 July), zero out of 56 have been about it. That's four out of 148 to date since the kidnapping occurred.

And nothing since 18 April 2011.

One wonders what cards they're playing close to their vest. I say it's a pair of threes, a four, a six, and a jack.

I'm guessing 2 pairs. Good hand but not enough to up the ante.
 
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Yes. I linked to it above earlier. Here it is. Second paragraph, first sentence.

Here's the link to all TBI press releases on the Bobo matter - all from April 2011.

April 16

Some of Holly’s personal belongings were found on a roadside Thursday night.

They don't say what roadside. 2 days later they stop press releases.:moo:
 
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Clint said there is a logging road. Can someone explain what that means, please. I don't want to guess.

There are roads back in the forrest where they harvest timber. Timber is carried out on logging trucks. These roads are not paved, and they are very rough. They'd also probably be used by people with 4-wheelers, I would guess, for recreational riding. One would have to know these paths cut deep through the trees to navigate them efficiently, and you'd need a vehicle that would get around in the mud, should there be rain! Does that answer your question? I think that's what you were asking....
 
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April 16



They don't say what roadside. 2 days later they stop press releases.:moo:

It is interesting that one of the last press releases says this:

[quoteThe investigation continued today in Decatur County, Tenn. with road canvasses on five roads leading in and out of Holly’s residence this morning during the time she was last seen. Law enforcement spent the rest of day continuing to gather and follow through on leads related to the case.][/quote]

I had somehow missed that detail... That there were somewhere around 5 roads leading away from the Bobo's house.

And yes, whenever they made the last find of evidence, the searches stopped and all went quiet in the media. I just can't believe that some of the more aggressive news outlets just let this drop! Nancy Grace, JVM, Geraldo, and even the newshounds of the local teams just dropped the story like a hot potato! Not like them at all!
 
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Considering the various substrate(s) involved in Holly's abduction- home, garage, carport, driveway, lawn, woods etc- as well as the account of Holly and abductor kneeling, being on the ground, the blood found, and perhaps other items of significance that may help with ID'ing- such as something like fibers found from Holly's clothing- I think it is possible Holly was literally 'drug' a short distance across a substrate that caused an abrasion and perhaps damage to clothing, but then was on her feet walking or being led away.

Please, everyone keep an eye out for anything unusual when vacationing/hunting/camping/hiking etc this summer. The weather has been so all over the place- sometimes that uncovers items that may be of interest in missing persons cases.
 
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