TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #35

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  • #541
There are exceptions for requiring a search warrant in cases (inter alia) when LE is in "hot pursuit", or if there is an "emergency."

Both of which would have applied if LE had an inkling she was being held somewhere shortly after the abduction.

True, assuming an inkling is a reasonable suspicion.
 
  • #542
This Saturday we search for Holly.

TOTAL REWARD IS NOW OVER A THIRD OF A MILLION DOLLARS.

There will be 5 search teams participating.
 
  • #543
This Saturday we search for Holly.

TOTAL REWARD IS NOW OVER A THIRD OF A MILLION DOLLARS.

There will be 5 search teams participating.

God bless y'all for continuing to search almost 2 years later. I have to imagine over the course of almost two years nearly all of Decatur County has been looked at at some point (public areas at least).
 
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Anyone from Holly's area Decatur County know how to find public records? We have where I am from Clerk of Court that we can view criminal/arrests and stuff online but I can't find how to do it for this County. I have a person I want to look up in that area but can't figure out if it's available online or not.
 
  • #546
Anyone from Holly's area Decatur County know how to find public records? We have where I am from Clerk of Court that we can view criminal/arrests and stuff online but I can't find how to do it for this County. I have a person I want to look up in that area but can't figure out if it's available online or not.

Does this help?
http://www.tncourts.gov/courts/court-clerks
 
  • #547
Anyone from Holly's area Decatur County know how to find public records? We have where I am from Clerk of Court that we can view criminal/arrests and stuff online but I can't find how to do it for this County. I have a person I want to look up in that area but can't figure out if it's available online or not.

I have searched for Court dockets/entries online that are run by the Courts and for the life of me I can't find it. If you happen to find a link, please let me know.
 
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I'm praying for the searchers. I'm also praying for the family in the upcoming holiday season. IMO there is more about this case than is being told to the public. I'm concerned that they are waiting for a body. Just MOO.
 
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Adding my prayers for the searchers :rose:
 
  • #552
I am not posting often right now in this thread....but I have not forgotten Holly. I think of her most everyday. I started following her thread from the first post and followed everyone since. I often think about where she is and what may have happened to her....and I find its tough for me to put on "new eyes" and see this any differently than I did from the earliest days.

Holly, where are you? We are still trying to find you.....
 
  • #553
BTW, if you compare this case to say, the Jessica Ridgeway case, you can see how the earliest stages of an investigation are extremely important. And the old ways of doing things aren't working so well in this modern age.

LE in the Ridgeway case were fairly open about what they had. They had regular press conferences and cleared the family. They released vital information that actually broke the case...that unforgettable photo of the wooden cross. Within days, they had an arrest.

This case was a mess from the first moments. So much confusion and frustration. After all this time, we still don't even know who made the 911 calls...and we aren't allowed to hear them. That, alone, would help so much.

My prayer is that somehow, some way, this case will be solved in my lifetime.
 
  • #554
If only we were privy to knowing what LE knows about this case!
That things are so quite leads me to believe they have an idea of who/what was involved, but are stymied for the time being because their suspect has an alibi, and/or their evidence is too circumstantial.
 
  • #555
15 & 20 are my tops ones. Holly is an absolutely beautiful girl, I would not be surprised if someone even met her for a split second, or just saw her, and became a stalker. I just feel that way because of how she was taken.
But in most cases, it's someone closest to the person, in this case, Holly.
 
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BTW, if you compare this case to say, the Jessica Ridgeway case, you can see how the earliest stages of an investigation are extremely important. And the old ways of doing things aren't working so well in this modern age.

LE in the Ridgeway case were fairly open about what they had. They had regular press conferences and cleared the family. They released vital information that actually broke the case...that unforgettable photo of the wooden cross. Within days, they had an arrest.

This case was a mess from the first moments. So much confusion and frustration. After all this time, we still don't even know who made the 911 calls...and we aren't allowed to hear them. That, alone, would help so much.

My prayer is that somehow, some way, this case will be solved in my lifetime.

BBM

I totally agree. To this day, even after reading nearly every thread on this case since day one, I have no idea what really happened in the initial stages. Was there a scream? Who heard it, the neighbor or her son, and what did they do?

Even Clint's story is shady, imo. Some of it makes no sense to me. Why call your mom, who is 45 minutes away, when you hear voices in the garage? Why not peek your head in and investigate?

And if you see someone leading your lil sister into the forest early in the morning, why not call out to her and ask if she is alright? I still don't get that part.

And we never got any clarity on the supposed staging of evidence. I am still confused about which items were actually left and when they were left. And was there a cell found or not? Was that car actually left by a hunter and not connected? We should have known all lf this within the first 48 hours.
 
  • #558
BBM

I totally agree. To this day, even after reading nearly every thread on this case since day one, I have no idea what really happened in the initial stages. Was there a scream? Who heard it, the neighbor or her son, and what did they do?

Even Clint's story is shady, imo. Some of it makes no sense to me. Why call your mom, who is 45 minutes away, when you hear voices in the garage? Why not peek your head in and investigate?

And if you see someone leading your lil sister into the forest early in the morning, why not call out to her and ask if she is alright? I still don't get that part.

And we never got any clarity on the supposed staging of evidence. I am still confused about which items were actually left and when they were left. And was there a cell found or not? Was that car actually left by a hunter and not connected? We should have known all lf this within the first 48 hours.
yes, I've been reading to refresh my memory, but I'm still confused, especially about the timeline and sequence of events. I'm also confused about a few other things. Were Holly and her bf texting that morning? If so, was it about him being able to use or not being able to use her grandmother's land for hunting? I read that Holly's mother either talked or texted with the bf also that early morning? Was this conversation also about the land or something else? ok, the brother said a barking dog woke him up, and then he heard voices and saw 2 silhouettes, leaned over, as if checking out a killed turkey? (in the garage) He thought the 2 people were Holly and her bf. Did he call his mother before or after seeing the silhouettes? Was it after or during the call, that he saw Holly and the guy in camo walking into the woods? When did he see the blood, and when and who heard a scream? (if anybody did). IMO, it looks like there was a flurry of activity that morning. Holly on the phone with her bf, the mother on the phone with the bf, (was this a normal activity?), Holly getting ready for classes and then presumably going outside on her own, the dog(s) barking, a scream?, the brother hearing voices and seeing silhouettes, the brother calling the mom, the brother seeing Holly being led into the woods, the brother finding blood, and the brother calling 911. Was he still on the phone with his mother, or did he call her back? Whose idea was it to call 911? Did she call 911 also? Did the brother wait for cops to arrive, or did he go into the woods? And since there was blood in the garage, (Holly's blood, unless I read wrong), was there a trail of blood, on her path into the woods? So, what was it that made the brother realize that this was a dire situation and 911 needed to be called? was it because of the blood, (which I think he said he thought was turkey blood, maybe not), or was it because the mom realized Holly wasn't with the bf, because she, herself had been talking to him? moo
 
  • #559
BBM

I totally agree. To this day, even after reading nearly every thread on this case since day one, I have no idea what really happened in the initial stages. Was there a scream? Who heard it, the neighbor or her son, and what did they do?

Even Clint's story is shady, imo. Some of it makes no sense to me. Why call your mom, who is 45 minutes away, when you hear voices in the garage? Why not peek your head in and investigate?

And if you see someone leading your lil sister into the forest early in the morning, why not call out to her and ask if she is alright? I still don't get that part.

And we never got any clarity on the supposed staging of evidence. I am still confused about which items were actually left and when they were left. And was there a cell found or not? Was that car actually left by a hunter and not connected? We should have known all lf this within the first 48 hours.

I think LE clarified the car was unrelated. I could be wrong, but LE also denied her phone was found, or at a minimum, refused to reveal either way.
 
  • #560
According to Clint, he assumed the blood he saw was from a turkey. So, imo, he didn't panic and didn't believe his sister was in danger. He related he thought she was with Drew...and was not worried.

What I don't get is after he spoke with Karen, who told him to get a gun and go after her, he didn't. He was detained by the neighbor who pulled up in the driveway.

After the LE arrived, he relates he was worried about people going into the woods and messing up the crime scene. He chose to stay in his car while all this was going on and writing down everything he recalled that morning.

Where was his car? Some say it was in the enclosed garage. Has this every been confirmed? So was he sitting inside of the garage writing when the crowds were there?
Was his car moved between the time he called his mom and LE arriving?
 
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