TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #35

[reedus23]

Is it possible Holly's boyfriend was not at grandma's farm hunting the day she disappreared?

Has this been verified by LE...do any of one of you know this to be true?

I'm wondering where the woods behind the Bobo's home leads to ? A road?

A lake to drive off via boat?

So many of these cold cases are in the southern US states, I'm starting to get a prejudice towards the general lack of ability of the southern LE officials....why is this case sooo hard to gather information and leads..

HAPPY HOLIDAYS WEBSLEUTHERS......:fence:

LE has confirmed little in this case, including whether or not they have verified the boyfriend's whereabouts. Having said that, I feel 99% certain that they have done that. There were witnesses at grandma's, his phone would ping from grandma's and witnesses would then place him at work.

 

[reedus23]

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We have hashed and rehashed every possibility we can think of. The most recent piece of info came from Dana about six months ago. He said her pink purse, camera and keys have not been found.

Would anyone like to tell me why he releases that one and half years later? He is also the one that told us the blood in the carport belonged to Holly. Perhaps if an interested reporter would interview him (ALONE), more details may emerge. None of the family has been interviewed alone. I consider this interesting but I am sure others won't.

In my thinking, the family has come to their conclusions and can live with it. If they didn't, they would be on every media outlet they were allowed to talk about the case.

I think LE has tried to maintain a tight control over what information is disseminated, explaining the timing of the release of that information. I think it was a mistake because it could have given the public an idea of what to look for. I also don't know if the family can live with it or not. I suspect they would not be continuing to search if they had accepted it. Beyond that, I don't know how I would react in their situation as far as talking to every media outlet. Additionally, those media outlets have to be willing to talk to them. Unfortunately, Holly's case is quickly approaching 2 years and many media outlets may run more current stories.

 

[deca]

Hello Kimster,your avatar reminds me of one of my favorite movies "Earth Girls Are Easy". I had a snapshot of the post by Foxfire re: the Motel keycard.

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The lunch packet & duct tape location(woods/5 points) was more than likely a safe haven til the responding LE subsided. They would have been responding from many directions, I-40 etc.. I was on the search when the cell phone was located. He prolly discarded it enroute to his safe haven/ritual grounds..

I am also the searcher that located the Lexington, TN, Motel keycard that was dismissed by the THP.. It was like new...& located near other significant items located in the Easter search..It was bagged & tagged, yet TBI PIO Helms reported that it was not turned in to evidence. I had words with the THP Officer, due to the perceived hypothesis attitude that I had experienced before in a prior abduction investigation in GA. He said that it prolly had nothing to do with Holly's abduction. I said, 'couldn't the abductor have staged at the motel or took her there after the abduction'? He said, "no we know who took her and he kept her at his house"..
That was 16+ months ago...Perceived hypothesis..why most cases go cold..

BBM. New info for me, but something that I have heard speculated on: that LE/the Bobos knew or suspected who took her and that is why there is not much public info on the case.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I still can not buy the theory that the family knew who did this. Seriously... if they did would they go to the trouble to spend a year and a half searching, handing out fliers, etc. ?

 

[Snowbunny]

I agree. I know sound travels in open areas...but why didn't Clint here her? I know..I was told he was sleeping. He must sleep really sound.

I can tell you this much, when I lived in Tennessee as hot as it got our doors and windows were shut and the a/c was running the majority of the time and you couldn't hear much going on outside. Also is it possible that Holly mentioned something to her mom that maybe a certain person she may have not known seemed to be showing up everywhere she went and appeared to be stalking her and maybe that's why Karen panicked? The family may not even know who this person was but there may have been incidents that may have occurred up to this point that Holly had mentioned prior to her being taken that cause her mom to be alarmed.

 

[Kimster]

Hello Kimster,your avatar reminds me of one of my favorite movies "Earth Girls Are Easy". I had a snapshot of the post by Foxfire re: the Motel keycard.

<snipped>
The lunch packet & duct tape location(woods/5 points) was more than likely a safe haven til the responding LE subsided. They would have been responding from many directions, I-40 etc.. I was on the search when the cell phone was located. He prolly discarded it enroute to his safe haven/ritual grounds..

I am also the searcher that located the Lexington, TN, Motel keycard that was dismissed by the THP.. It was like new...& located near other significant items located in the Easter search..It was bagged & tagged, yet TBI PIO Helms reported that it was not turned in to evidence. I had words with the THP Officer, due to the perceived hypothesis attitude that I had experienced before in a prior abduction investigation in GA. He said that it prolly had nothing to do with Holly's abduction. I said, 'couldn't the abductor have staged at the motel or took her there after the abduction'? He said, "no we know who took her and he kept her at his house"..
That was 16+ months ago...Perceived hypothesis..why most cases go cold..

I'm confused as to where this information is verified. If you are an insider, you need to be approved as such.

Here's the link: Rules Verification Process for Professional or Insider Posters - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Mysterylover]

Is it possible Holly's boyfriend was not at grandma's farm hunting the day she disappreared?

Has this been verified by LE...do any of one of you know this to be true?

I'm wondering where the woods behind the Bobo's home leads to ? A road?

A lake to drive off via boat?

So many of these cold cases are in the southern US states, I'm starting to get a prejudice towards the general lack of ability of the southern LE officials....why is this case sooo hard to gather information and leads..

HAPPY HOLIDAYS WEBSLEUTHERS......:fence:

Xavier, Interesting question..

Does anyone know Who was hunting where that morning or with WHOM?

Was anyone's guns or hands tested for gunpowder that day?

Why has this case been so Quite so long?
What could possibly be the reasons LE has gone 19 months with NO clarity or answers in this case?
Is there a case? If so what type?
Are any LE or TBI investigations still going on?.....Happy Holidays Sleuthers....ullhair:
What happened to H?

 

[MizStery]

You are correct. A searcher did find that key, and according to his own story, the authorities did not seem interested in "tagging and bagging" it. He was appalled that anyone would discount it as evidence, when so little was known about the circumstances of her disappearance. In that regard, nothing much seems to have changed, IMO.

Whoa! I missed this! Where did you get this information? Is there more?

Almondjoy is correct and I remember the posts too by the WS poster. I think it was on much earlier threads here. He is a good person IMO and he helped with the searches for Holly right at the very beginning. I dont remember his poster name, but I do remember him describing the motel key being found and as he tried to turn it in, they were not interested in it.

If I remember the story correctly, I think it was because LE already thought they were honing in on the "who dunnit", so they didnt think the item was important. Something along those lines.

Nothing must have panned out for LE.

There are so many strange things about this case. One thing that is really so strange to me in this case is why LE never even released the results of the blood testing in the driveway. It seems they should have at least provided the results of that testing. It seems LE never released anything hardly at all about this case, which is really odd. Almost like a total black out of any information from them, and yet if they want any public help, they really should provide whatever they can for people to help. I realize there may not be a lot to go on, but confirmation of items found, blood test results, etc. would all be important to know.
I know someone else indicated whose blood it was on an interview, but LE really should do it.
So many things that are frustrating with this case.
:banghead:

Hello Kimster,your avatar reminds me of one of my favorite movies "Earth Girls Are Easy". I had a snapshot of the post by Foxfire re: the Motel keycard.

<snipped>
The lunch packet & duct tape location(woods/5 points) was more than likely a safe haven til the responding LE subsided. They would have been responding from many directions, I-40 etc.. I was on the search when the cell phone was located. He prolly discarded it enroute to his safe haven/ritual grounds..

I am also the searcher that located the Lexington, TN, Motel keycard that was dismissed by the THP.. It was like new...& located near other significant items located in the Easter search..It was bagged & tagged, yet TBI PIO Helms reported that it was not turned in to evidence. I had words with the THP Officer, due to the perceived hypothesis attitude that I had experienced before in a prior abduction investigation in GA. He said that it prolly had nothing to do with Holly's abduction. I said, 'couldn't the abductor have staged at the motel or took her there after the abduction'? He said, "no we know who took her and he kept her at his house"..
That was 16+ months ago...Perceived hypothesis..why most cases go cold..

I'm confused as to where this information is verified. If you are an insider, you need to be approved as such.

Here's the link: Rules Verification Process for Professional or Insider Posters - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

I hope this helps explain the progression of the topic on the Motel cardkey. The poster who participated in the searches was 'Foxfire'. I had a screen shot of 'Foxfires' posts. I sometimes read websleuths offline.... so i copy and paste the posts in my notepad app on my iPad ....to read the thread as time allows. MOO

 

[Xavier]

This has been one of my great questions about the case! What could possibly keep the parents silenced for so long? You know they only have Holly's best interests at heart, so it must be something pretty powerful keeping them from telling what they think may have happened! IMHO, if you figure out why they are not talking ( and I don't think it's because they are guilty), I think you go a long way toward solving the case.

What if it's an accidental death by someone the family knows and the perp/friend confessed it was an accident.

Maybe it was Holly's boyfriend behind this...so far, has anyone verified he was at the grandma's farm hunting?


Maybe the Bobo family has accepted Holly's accodental death, decided to keep it quiet and buried Holly in a private funeral?

Just guessing here...LOL

 

[Xavier]

I follow both cases, but don't think the two are connected - though there are interesting coincidences, and if they are connected I would not be all that shocked.
As for now, I see Holly's case as one involving a local who wants her for his own, to keep under lock and key. Just a feeling I have about her case...

STEVE-- It does smell of some twisted guy, who can only get a woman for himself literally by stealing her which is pretty primitive, neanderthal ...Sad and you could be right about this..

 

[Xavier]

I can tell you this much, when I lived in Tennessee as hot as it got our doors and windows were shut and the a/c was running the majority of the time and you couldn't hear much going on outside. Also is it possible that Holly mentioned something to her mom that maybe a certain person she may have not known seemed to be showing up everywhere she went and appeared to be stalking her and maybe that's why Karen panicked? The family may not even know who this person was but there may have been incidents that may have occurred up to this point that Holly had mentioned prior to her being taken that cause her mom to be alarmed.

SNOW BUNNY, I agree with you as really strange as this case is, it seems to me your premise is exactly what I've thought all along.

The fear and urgency from Karen instructing Clint to go out, get a gun and help your sister sounds exactly like Karen, Mom both knew beforehand from Kelly telling them that there was a strange guy stalking or appearing around her lately.

I can visualize the whole scenario the day she disappeared. Then Clint, probably half-asleep, running outside and greeted soon by LE and the neighbor.

What's odd, is I'm picking tidbits of posts here saying LE found a HOTEL KEY, HOLLY'S PURSE, SOME OF HER BELONGINGS. And then a poster named FOXFIRE who said he/she was on the search for Holly and had conversations with LE. One of those conversations, Foxfire said LE told him they know who abducted Holly and also there was something about a haven or burial grounds he took her?

If anyone can possibly verify or clarify any of this, please do so. Thanks, Happy Holidays.:seeya:

 

[~n/t~]

Her pink purse is still missing. The hotel key was mentioned back in May 2011 in MSM linked by IMAMAZE on the media links thread That article/link is no longer available as are so many as it relates to this case. Foxfire who now appears as an inactive poster on this forum claimed to have been one of the searchers who was there when the key was found. I saw the post yesterday but for some reason I can no longer locate it but many of us remember it as well. Here is the snippet from the media link:

Media links only thread Post #39

New find in Holly Bobo disappearance
Holly Bobo, the 20-year-old nursing student led from her home on April 13th, is still missing as of 5/10/2011. Very little evidence has been found in the case since Easter weekend, until today.
The Holly Bobo Search and Rescue Team is a collective of private searchers as well as law enforcement officials in the Decatur County area. They report on their verified Facebook page that a new item has been found in the search for Holly Bobo. This item, a hotel key card, was found in the vicinity of another significant item. The significant item, still unnamed, is the one that was found on Easter weekend, allegedly.
More...

Search for clues continues four weeks after Bobo disappearance
Four weeks after Tennessee nursing student Holly Bobo disappeared, investigators continue to receive leads from the public, officials said on Wednesday.
"We have lots of positive leads," says John Mehr, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation special agent. "That's the key. We ask people to continue giving us information. We hope we will have a positive ending to this."
More...

Still no sign of Holly Bobo four weeks later
It's been four weeks since Holly Bobo disappeared and there's still no sign of her.
Organized searches by volunteers have stopped, but the TBI and FBI said they're still working the case.
Bobo's family hasn't given up hope that she'll be found alive.
More...

As with so many aspects of this case, links, articles, posts get deleted/ removed for various reasons but one would assume that if it was mentioned at some point in time, it may have had some truth to it.

If the hotel key was indeed found, I think it has great significance as it relates to sleuthing other possibilities.

IMO

BBM in red by me.

 

[~n/t~]

FWIW...TBI debunked the rumour back then but they also did not say anything about a cell phone being found...or her purse being missing...so.......

http://levipageshow.blogspot.ca/2011/05/tbi-debunks-holly-bobo-rumors.html

 

[Carla Lashelle]

What if it's an accidental death by someone the family knows and the perp/friend confessed it was an accident.

Maybe it was Holly's boyfriend behind this...so far, has anyone verified he was at the grandma's farm hunting?


Maybe the Bobo family has accepted Holly's accodental death, decided to keep it quiet and buried Holly in a private funeral?

Just guessing here...LOL

So her mom quits her job at school and Clint drops out of college to make it look like they are searching for a year and a half? I doubt it (IMHO).

 

[Xavier]

So her mom quits her job at school and Clint drops out of college to make it look like they are searching for a year and a half? I doubt it (IMHO).

Really??

That's pretty unique.Both Clint & Mom taking a 2 year sabbatical?

This case is so goofy.

I'd really wish every police dept in America would have aDirty Harry Clint Eastwood on the force. Cases solved quickly without the drawn out leg work

Old School Style...LOL Just venting ..LOL:seeya:

 

[Carla Lashelle]

It is not so unusual if you think about what grief stricken parents or siblings would do. it's not like they took a vacation... they quit work and school to spend more time looking for Holly. Just doesn't seem like something people would do if they already knew what happened or who took her, or any of the other implausible theories.

 

[Xavier]

From http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8587141&posted=1#post8587141



As I said there, repeating here:

Might be time to offer taking DP off the table if he will confess and lead LE to Holly Bobo.

STEVE -- DJ Jones who was charged recently for the Megan Sharpton murder, was someone I suspected too. But that crazy perp actually knew and was hassling the Sharpton family, ie, bullet holes riddled their Home FOR SALE sign ,verbal threats, etc.

Both Megan and Holly live fairly close, are pretty young blondes and both were in nursing school. But, he could be a suspect but I doubt it. Because the Sharpton murder seemed to me to be a feud and isolated.

 

[nursebeeme]

folks: please leave the family members out of it. This warning has been posted so many times my eyes cross when I have to do it again. Knock it off.

 

[reedus23]

What if it's an accidental death by someone the family knows and the perp/friend confessed it was an accident.

Maybe it was Holly's boyfriend behind this...so far, has anyone verified he was at the grandma's farm hunting?


Maybe the Bobo family has accepted Holly's accodental death, decided to keep it quiet and buried Holly in a private funeral?

Just guessing here...LOL

Boyfriend was on grandma's property hunting and I think it was a distance away making the timing impossible for him to be involved. No way they buried Holly and are continuing to search, put her face on water bottles etc...That would make no sense.

 

[Montjoy]

What's odd, is I'm picking tidbits of posts here saying LE found a HOTEL KEY, HOLLY'S PURSE, SOME OF HER BELONGINGS. And then a poster named FOXFIRE who said he/she was on the search for Holly and had conversations with LE. One of those conversations, Foxfire said LE told him they know who abducted Holly and also there was something about a haven or burial grounds he took her?

If anyone can possibly verify or clarify any of this, please do so.

This simply can't be verified -- it's a combination of rumor, hearsay, and fabrication from (to be polite) an unreliable source. Please note the post from n/t above which debunks the claims. It basically fails the 'Websleuths rules of evidence', so I'm not sure why it's even being rehashed.

Oh, and there's been nothing written anywhere in MSM or any reliable media about a 'haven' or 'burial grounds'. Where did you find that? Please provide a link!