Trayvon's injuries, per the leaked autopsy report

[Kimberlyd125]

I think it's obvious (or should be) that I meant 1/4" looks large on something as small as a finger.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

And I think a 1/4 inch is 1/4 inch regardless of what it's on. The measurement is the same. jmo

Kind of like that thing which weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound of gold?

 

[LambChop]

Kind of like that thing which weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound of gold?

Oh, I understood what Kimberly meant I just don't see the significance of a small 1/4 inch cut on his ring finger. It could have been a paper cut from the store and that was why he had no bag. There are lots of possibilities but doubtful it's a cut he received from banging GZ's head repeatedly which now even GZ's injuries of record do not indicate severe bashing of the head. jmo

 

[kimpage]

One 1/4 inch cut does not match with GZ'S claim of a broken nose or head being bashed repeatedly.... And i think FT was so huffy that TM's toxicology was negative for drugs is very telling......Oh and my son was on Adderall for ADHD and the Psychiatrist took him of because it made him extremey paranoid........IMHO JMHO and all that

 

[tehcloser]

I don't think a small abrasion under the knuckle means the funeral director mislead anything.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I don't think a small abrasion under the knuckle means the funeral director mislead anything.

No injuries to his knuckles or hands?
A small abrasion is an injury.
It was under the knuckle which is on the hand.

I think the director totally mislead NG and her audience.

JMO

 

[tehcloser]

No injuries to his knuckles or hands?
A small abrasion is an injury.
It was under the knuckle which is on the hand.

I think the director totally mislead NG and her audience.

JMO

I think that the key word here is "injuries". The funeral director didn't think a tiny abrasion was an injury. IMO.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

No injuries to his knuckles or hands?
A small abrasion is an injury.
It was under the knuckle which is on the hand.

I think the director totally mislead NG and her audience.

JMO

Why did he say there were no signs of injury to Trayvon? He said it was because if there had been they would have had to cover it up. A tiny mark like that they would not have to cover up.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think that the key word here is "injuries". The funeral director didn't think a tiny abrasion was an injury. IMO.

???
An abrasion IS an injury.
That's what it means.

Abrasion and injury are synonyms.

 

[LambChop]

No injuries to his knuckles or hands?
A small abrasion is an injury.
It was under the knuckle which is on the hand.

I think the director totally mislead NG and her audience.

JMO

I think the question to the director was were his hands scrapped up, as if he had consistently banged GZ's head on the cement and scrapped his knuckles. He said he did not see anything like that. We don't even know how old the 1/4 inch abrasion was or whether is was fresh. Obviously the media did not feel that part was important enough to report. jmo

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Why did he say there were no signs of injury to Trayvon? He said it was because if there had been they would have had to cover it up. A tiny mark like that they would not have to cover up.

That does not negate the fact that TM had an injury to his hand.
The funeral director said there were no injuries to TM's knuckles or hands.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think the question to the director was were his hands scrapped up, as if he had consistently banged GZ's head on the cement and scrapped his knuckles. He said he did not see anything like that. We don't even know how old the 1/4 inch abrasion was or whether is was fresh. Obviously the media did not feel that part was important enough to report. jmo

I don't remember that part of his story.
I'll see what I can find.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

That does not negate the fact that TM had an injury to his hand.
The funeral director said there were no injuries to TM's knuckles or hands.

Oh, I thought he said he didn't see any.

I didn't think he was testifying that there were no injuries to Trayvon's hands.

 

[Verboten]

I would think his injuries would be way more severe if he was beating GZ and banging his head into the ground. Only one abrasion doesn't sound like a beating getting GZ close to diapers to me.

And the intermediate range - TM was not as close as GZ said he was. I bet he was over eight inches away, and that's why he was face down. He was trying to get away.

The report I read said 1/4 inch abrasion BELOW the knuckle. Don't know how you get *that* from a punch. And, intermediate range in no way matches GZ story.

 

[Verboten]

Oh, I thought he said he didn't see any.

I didn't think he was testifying that there were no injuries to Trayvon's hands.

What I heard him say is that he did not see any. If he had, he would have had to cover it up. Didn't have to do that. But, he also mentioned he got body post-autopsy. He made the same point regarding seeing one wound only--not entry & exit--this was post-autopsy & therefore does not necessary indicate what was originally there.

 

[GrandmaTo4]

The reporter says that they have an actual copy of the autopsy which ABC did not say. The FD would have been correct in saying there was no injury to TM's "Knuckles" as the autopsy report states there was an abrasion below the knuckle.

Yes, on Trayvon's left ring finger. Not a part of the hand that would normally be injured from bashing in a nose or smashing a head against the sidewalk.

1/4" is a mighty tiny scrape. Trayvon could have cut his finger on the pop-off on a can of soda -- or any other number of other ways.

I hope everyone now understands that it would have been very easy for the Funeral Director to miss such a tiny scrape.

So, the skinny kid had two injuries. The wound to his left chest which shattered the ventricle of his heart ... and a teeny tiny 1/4" scrape on his left ring finger, NOT even on his knuckle but below it.

As far as I'm concerned this shows that Trayvon was NOT punching <modsnip> George at all.

What a bunch of LIARS the whole Zimmerman camp have been. How do they think they can LIE so flagrantly and believe they won't get caught? _ :furious:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/47453093/#47453093

imo

Justice for Trayvon Martin -- the boy who lived only 21 days past his 17th birthday. What a sad, senseless tragedy!

 

[elementary]

That does not negate the fact that TM had an injury to his hand.
The funeral director said there were no injuries to TM's knuckles or hands.

In common speak, I find, an 'injury' is something quite large and concerning. As for a scratch, well, splitting hairs, it can be called an injury out of many synonyms for such. So what? I am not sure what your point is, since there is variation in communication about what an 'injury' constitutes. Are you implying the funeral director had some hidden agenda?

 

[LambChop]

I don't remember that part of his story.
I'll see what I can find.

I think the director was saying he did not see an injuries that would require him to cover them over with makeup so that the family would not be exposed to seeing that. So I think his belief was did he see any significant injuries to his hands that would have been noticed when they were preparing his body. It is possible he did not see it since it was so small. And do we even know how old the cut was or anything about it? Whoever the reporter was left off a lot of detail. jmo

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think the question to the director was were his hands scrapped up, as if he had consistently banged GZ's head on the cement and scrapped his knuckles. He said he did not see anything like that. We don't even know how old the 1/4 inch abrasion was or whether is was fresh. Obviously the media did not feel that part was important enough to report. jmo

I've looked and I can't find anything about the question you mentioned being asked.
Do you know where you read that?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Oh, I thought he said he didn't see any.

I didn't think he was testifying that there were no injuries to Trayvon's hands.

Testifying?

He said there were none.
He said it as fact.
He implied that he would know.

He misled IMO.

He also made comments about the police work being horrible.
I don't know what that has to do with his job.

I think he was trying to "help" the ARREST GEORGE ZIMMERMAN case.

It was all about public outrage before the arrest. Information like this certainly fueled that fire.

JMO