Trial break: The State vs Jodi Arias; trial resumes 4 February 2013

[polleypockets]

Does this pertain to private citizens?

yes in california no one - not eve a private citizen - can record a phone call w/ out prior consent from both parties - only way around it is if you have a warrant fro LE for phone tapping

 

[Sulamith]

OK, folks. I am going to get banned and I do not care anymore. I am sick of members asking another male member who I respect very much about a man’s morning erection. There are pages of post on sexual parts and if they are normal or not, the size of a man’s penis and anal sex. It has gotten totally off topic of why we are all here. We are here because a young man was murdered long before his time. If the DT wants to trash Travis that is something they have to live with. We have no control over any of what they say or do. I do not feel we need to join in with them. I do not need to hear about his penis, what it looked like, if he had sex with her. There are pages on this same subject. What Jodi “looks” like, if she is normal, her anus and if she had had anal sex.

I literally cringe thinking if for some reason a family member comes here and what they must think of what we are discussing. How disrespectful it is to Travis and his family. How disrespectful we have become to other members asking them a very personal question he should not have to explain to anyone for any reason. I thought we were all adults here and are aware of these things. Websleuths has always been known for being a victims advocate. How are we being that with the discussions that have been going on? I thought we were adult enough to maybe comment, move on and not have pages on all things sexual then knock the defense for doing the same thing.

I am all for having a good laugh at times. There comes a time it has gone to far. We have passed that point a long time ago. It is boarding on harassment with some posters on wanting answers, links and facts. IE men’s erections. Then wanting to discuss over and over the same thing. How many times does someone have to state their own opinion without having to say it again. How is it even being allowed to happen in the first place?
Don’t worry about reporting me I have sent a copy of my post to Tricia. I am ready to face the consequences of my post. I think it is time to step back and look at what we are doing. How childish this has all become. How disrespectful to Travis, his family and fellow posters we have become really sickens me. :furious:

BBM New members joining Websleuths...opinions will be shared over and over again.

 

[atthelake]

It took me a very long time to understand this. Forgiveness isn't about the perp, it's for yourself and letting go of the burning hatred so you can move forward. The perp need never know. All IMO


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SLAM,

Yes, when someone passed right when it was right after a betrayal was discovered, I for the first time went to counseling. When the therapist asked during my fist visit what I wanted, I said I neede to forgive him, to move on, but did not know hoe to forgive as he passed and did not have time to either discuss or have a time of changed behavior to then forgive.


The Grief handbook I believe was the name of the book, helped me greatly and I have on more than one occasion gotten that book for others.


Not having closure on a relationship, only those that are involved may know. There can be so very many back stories for victims relatives that are unseen to others and are NEVER SHARED TO PUBLIC,


Again, slam! Thanks Linda as its a good slam to recalling reality!

 

[*~Aimee~*]

OK, folks. I am going to get banned and I do not care anymore. I am sick of members asking another male member who I respect very much about a man’s morning erection. There are pages of post on sexual parts and if they are normal or not, the size of a man’s penis and anal sex. It has gotten totally off topic of why we are all here. We are here because a young man was murdered long before his time. If the DT wants to trash Travis that is something they have to live with. We have no control over any of what they say or do. I do not feel we need to join in with them. I do not need to hear about his penis, what it looked like, if he had sex with her. There are pages on this same subject. What Jodi “looks” like, if she is normal, her anus and if she had had anal sex.

I literally cringe thinking if for some reason a family member comes here and what they must think of what we are discussing. How disrespectful it is to Travis and his family. How disrespectful we have become to other members asking them a very personal question he should not have to explain to anyone for any reason. I thought we were all adults here and are aware of these things. Websleuths has always been known for being a victims advocate. How are we being that with the discussions that have been going on? I thought we were adult enough to maybe comment, move on and not have pages on all things sexual then knock the defense for doing the same thing.

I am all for having a good laugh at times. There comes a time it has gone to far. We have passed that point a long time ago. It is boarding on harassment with some posters on wanting answers, links and facts. IE men’s erections. Then wanting to discuss over and over the same thing. How many times does someone have to state their own opinion without having to say it again. How is it even being allowed to happen in the first place?

Don’t worry about reporting me I have sent a copy of my post to Tricia. I am ready to face the consequences of my post. I think it is time to step back and look at what we are doing. How childish this has all become. How disrespectful to Travis, his family and fellow posters we have become really sickens me. :furious:

I agree

 

[polleypockets]

Reading that people were panicking and thinking what I had written would potentially cause harm to the victims in this case actually left me shaking and sick to my stomach. I'm honestly still shaking. This is all very close to me...I take things too personally I'm sure because this is all very personal. Having just had a conversation with my brother today about what we've been through...we almost never discuss it. But he watched some of this trial and for some other reasons we talked about what it's like to live through this and keep living through it. It's been a heavy week.

I typically don't fare well long term on message boards. I'm not very thick skinned. And in this case even more thin (just the skin). It hits me at my core to think I would actually cause more pain to a victims family even on accident.

All I know is I will be sitting in that courtroom on Monday morning with their advocate "bearing witness" as that one brilliant poster wrote about. And if that's the beginning, middle and end of it, I'm ok with that.

Thanks for the love guys. I'm gonna go have a beer now and really I don't like beer but it's either beer or scotch with my dad and I'm wayyy too lazy to go out for wine. :seeya: (wish I knew where that blankie icon is).

i can email you a glass of chardonnay?

 

[PrincessSezMe]

Reading that people were panicking and thinking what I had written would potentially cause harm to the victims in this case actually left me shaking and sick to my stomach. I'm honestly still shaking. This is all very close to me...I take things too personally I'm sure because this is all very personal. Having just had a conversation with my brother today about what we've been through...we almost never discuss it. But he watched some of this trial and for some other reasons we talked about what it's like to live through this and keep living through it. It's been a heavy week.

I typically don't fare well long term on message boards. I'm not very thick skinned. And in this case even more thin (just the skin). It hits me at my core to think I would actually cause more pain to a victims family even on accident.

All I know is I will be sitting in that courtroom on Monday morning with their advocate "bearing witness" as that one brilliant poster wrote about. And if that's the beginning, middle and end of it, I'm ok with that.

Thanks for the love guys. I'm gonna go have a beer now and really I don't like beer but it's either beer or scotch with my dad and I'm wayyy too lazy to go out for wine. :seeya: (wish I knew where that blankie icon is).

Just put the words offtobed with a colon on either side, you'll get the blanket smiley. Enjoy your beer KCL, and I look forward to your courtroom commentary on Monday .

 

[TigerBalm]

Reading that people were panicking and thinking what I had written would potentially cause harm to the victims in this case actually left me shaking and sick to my stomach. I'm honestly still shaking. This is all very close to me...I take things too personally I'm sure because this is all very personal. Having just had a conversation with my brother today about what we've been through...we almost never discuss it. But he watched some of this trial and for some other reasons we talked about what it's like to live through this and keep living through it. It's been a heavy week.

I typically don't fare well long term on message boards. I'm not very thick skinned. And in this case even more thin (just the skin). It hits me at my core to think I would actually cause more pain to a victims family even on accident.

All I know is I will be sitting in that courtroom on Monday morning with their advocate "bearing witness" as that one brilliant poster wrote about. And if that's the beginning, middle and end of it, I'm ok with that.

Thanks for the love guys. I'm gonna go have a beer now and really I don't like beer but it's either beer or scotch with my dad and I'm wayyy too lazy to go out for wine. :seeya: (wish I knew where that blankie icon is).

:grouphug: Hang in there Katie, personally I don't think you did anything wrong!

: offtobed : without the spaces fftobed:

 

[PASA]

Reading that people were panicking and thinking what I had written would potentially cause harm to the victims in this case actually left me shaking and sick to my stomach. I'm honestly still shaking. This is all very close to me...I take things too personally I'm sure because this is all very personal. Having just had a conversation with my brother today about what we've been through...we almost never discuss it. But he watched some of this trial and for some other reasons we talked about what it's like to live through this and keep living through it. It's been a heavy week.

I typically don't fare well long term on message boards. I'm not very thick skinned. And in this case even more thin (just the skin). It hits me at my core to think I would actually cause more pain to a victims family even on accident.

All I know is I will be sitting in that courtroom on Monday morning with their advocate "bearing witness" as that one brilliant poster wrote about. And if that's the beginning, middle and end of it, I'm ok with that.

Thanks for the love guys. I'm gonna go have a beer now and really I don't like beer but it's either beer or scotch with my dad and I'm wayyy too lazy to go out for wine. :seeya: (wish I knew where that blankie icon is).

I never felt you did anything wrong. You have walked in their shoes and would know better than most how they are feeling and what would be of comfort.

Enjoy the beauty of Sedona and let it help you decompress from the stress and worry, if only for a few days.

That's great that you're spending time with family and that your brother is doing so well. From what you've shared, it truly is a miracle.

 

[PASA]

Maybe they were both in Arizona when the alleged recording was made.

It is my understanding she was in Yreka and he was in Mesa. I'll look for verification on it and will post if I find anything.

HTH

 

[PrincessSezMe]

Patience...

The defense just served up the stalking on a silver platter!

And the gas cans!

And proved no one ever saw Travis abuse her in any way shape or form!

The defense IMO is doing a bang up job proving the prosecutions case... Just wait till rebuttle!


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Ah, I understand...."patience grasshopper" :biggrin:

 

[smeck]

good night to all the wonderful caring folks on this site---hearts in the right place as usual.

 

[Apparition]

yes in california no one - not eve a private citizen - can record a phone call w/ out prior consent from both parties - only way around it is if you have a warrant fro LE for phone tapping

or Jodi taking the stand to confirm it? I'm not sure on the law. I would never put myself up against Juan, I would end up crying in the corner..... jmo

 

[human]

This is really realy long but it talks about criminals profiting from their crimes. It seems a little iffy on crimmies not profiting. I thought there was no way, but it appears that may not be true.

An interesting thing is that Amy Fisher shot Joey Buttafaco's wife in the head with a 25 caliber pistol and she survived

I am still of the opinion that Jodi shot him with the gun and it jammed and she found a knife or she had one with her

Anyway, here is the really long article

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http://www.dcbar.org/for_lawyers/resources/publications/washington_lawyer/may_2011/crime_pay.cfm

 

[TigerBalm]

Maybe they were both in Arizona when the alleged recording was made.

Possible but according to the video, it was after she moved back to Yreka, California.

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/01/31/phone-sex-emerges-jodi-arias-trial

 

[borndem]

Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute
:waitasec: Adding Rhoda from the Bad Seed ... braids and all

yipes - THAT was a SCARY little girl! (AND a good movie)

Yes, I agree, a great one. Little Patty McCormack was fantastic! I remember her conversation with the gardener (?) when he told her what happens to bad little boys & girls -- he told her that they have the electric chair....

"Blue chairs for little boys, and pink chairs for little girls."

Here's to pink chairs! :toastred:

:thumb:

 

[Linda7NJ]

This is really realy long but it talks about criminals profiting from their crimes. It seems a little iffy on crimmies not profiting. I thought there was no way, but it appears that may not be true.

An interesting thing is that Amy Fisher shot Joey Buttafaco's wife in the head with a 25 caliber pistol and she survived

I am still of the opinion that Jodi shot him with the gun and it jammed and she found a knife or she had one with her

Anyway, here is the really long article

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http://www.dcbar.org/for_lawyers/resources/publications/washington_lawyer/may_2011/crime_pay.cfm

I gonna read your link, then go to bed. Goodnight everyone.


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[Curious Me]

We have mods here that do a very good job making sure we follow the rules. I don't understand why there's been posts that create division, shaming and laying guilt trips on other posters. There are sexual elements to this case and pics of sexual body parts, and discussing them is somewhat necessary to figure out the events leading up to the crime. There's jokes to lighten the mood sometimes, but really, everyone seems to care deeply about getting Justice for Travis.

 

[Sulamith]

I googled Mormon undergarments. I couldn't understand what was so special about them. View attachment 29529

They look like a white tshirt with boxer brief sorta bottoms. Looks a little warm to sleep in for AZ if the AC isn't kicking.

Guess I still don't understand the magic underwear comments. What am I missing?


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This short clip may help:

[video=youtube;cC1VHMQmAUw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC1VHMQmAUw[/video]

 

[polleypockets]

or Jodi taking the stand to confirm it? I'm not sure on the law. I would never put myself up against Juan, I would end up crying in the corner..... jmo

it has to be stated during the phone call on tape that both parties agree it is being recorded - the fastest way out here to get a telemarketer off the phone is to say - i am recording this phone call

 

[Rosemary Pierce]

Thanks for the warm welcome. :seeya:

At the end of the day it seems this trial is nothing more than, "if I can't have him nobody can" :furious: