trial day 34: the defense continues it's case in chief #98

[gngr~snap]

I would like to know what it was too. I saw it, but wouldn't have even tried to figure out what it was. I just thought it was a door threshold and wall and light.

Just ask JA. She "knows" a lot.
MOO

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Did I understand Dr. RS correctly? I sounds like he made a hypothesis that JA had PTSD and then gave her the tests and interviewed her. This sounds like putting the cart before the donkey. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

 

[crime cases addict]

I don't feel pity for her and don't consider myself as bad as she is. Your talking about a woman. That is soulless
Just saying

It's hard to feel sorry for the devil:facepalm::facepalm:

 

[Tsunvirtual]

Yeah that's what the TH's were saying. The tail wagging the dog.

That's what I got out of it too. If he tested her correctly he would have tested her for malingering amnesia. IMO.

 

[gngr~snap]

It's hard to feel sorry for the devil:facepalm::facepalm:

JMO
she will de throne the devil once the deed is done...
She was in a bind and way behind and looking for a soul to steal...
was she a fiddle player too?

ETA:Looks like the devil went down to Arizona... not Georgia

 

[Tsunvirtual]

It's hard to feel sorry for the devil:facepalm::facepalm:

Sympathy for the devil. Great name for a song

 

[paperwing]

I would like to know what it was too. I saw it, but wouldn't have even tried to figure out what it was. I just thought it was a door threshold and wall and light.

I put this together pretty quickly - I should redo it, but not now

I did this to show that the blood drip pattern in the clear photo matches the blood drip pattern on the 'object' in the hall.

This is Travis' back. I cannot explain the position. But I do know this is what it is.

The bottom photos are the size I started with. The middle pair (same photos) are zoomed in on. The top pair are, again the same photo - just zoomed even more (had to crop for size reasons, but you can compare the blood shapes... there is more blood in one than the other, but it's his back.

The metallic thing in the top-most left corner is JM's pen.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I hope before this trial is over, we see MM on the witness stand. JM keeps dangling his name in front of JA like a dagger, I want to know the full story on MM.

 

[gngr~snap]

I put this together pretty quickly - I should redo it, but not now

I did this to show that the blood drip pattern in the clear photo matches the blood drip pattern on the 'object' in the hall.

This is Travis' back. I cannot explain the position. But I do know this is what it is.

The bottom photos are the size I started with. The middle pair (same photos) are zoomed in on. The top pair are, again the same photo - just zoomed even more (had to crop for size reasons, but you can compare the blood shapes... there is more blood in one than the other, but it's his back.

The metallic thing in the top-most left corner is JM's pen.

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:rocker::rocker::rocker:

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I put this together pretty quickly - I should redo it, but not now

I did this to show that the blood drip pattern in the clear photo matches the blood drip pattern on the 'object' in the hall.

This is Travis' back. I cannot explain the position. But I do know this is what it is.

The bottom photos are the size I started with. The middle pair (same photos) are zoomed in on. The top pair are, again the same photo - just zoomed even more (had to crop for size reasons, but you can compare the blood shapes... there is more blood in one than the other, but it's his back.

The metallic thing in the top-most left corner is JM's pen.

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That could be why JA said "I can't tell if his throat is slit in that photo"

 

[carnnell]

wow new interrogation tape released to HLN

She admits she was jealous of Travis dating other women.

IMO

On the ID channel Stalked Show, the Psychologist who narrates the show says "The one way to escalate a stalker to violent status (paraphrase) is get word their victim of obsession is dating someone."

Travis situation with Jodi would be on that show. She said 3 million are stalked every year including herself. Even though not all end in death but some do. (Travis)

Scarey. The laws and law enforcement do not do enough at the early point to help victims to stop them in some states. California have the strongest laws for stalking because of celebrities. The rest of the 49 have varied pathetic versions.

I was stalked before any laws were around in fact before the word "stalked" were in use (1973). Nothing were available to me for help other than move.
It was just a horrible feeling to know that another human being could invade you life and nothing can be done except "move".

I attempted to handle it not knowing anything about stalking, the way they are and in the end he attacked me/raping me. (1973)

Stalking is so serious as serious as abuse. After my experience, I consider stalking a form of abuse. I felt abused, invaded, controlled, isolated, and down right pissed off. If that made sense.

Thank you for let me share my story.

 

[gngr~snap]

On the ID channel Stalked Show, the Psychologist who narrates the show says "The one way to escalate a stalker to violent status (paraphrase) is get word their victim of obsession is dating someone."

Travis situation with Jodi would be on that show. She said 3 million are stalked every year including herself. Even though not all end in death but some do. (Travis)

Scarey. The laws and law enforcement do not do enough at the early point to help victims to stop them in some states. California have the strongest laws for stalking because of celebrities. The rest of the 49 have varied pathetic versions.

I was stalked before any laws were around in fact before the word "stalked" were in use (1973). Nothing were available to me for help other than move.
It was just a horrible feeling to know that another human being could invade you life and nothing can be done except "move".

I attempted to handle it not knowing anything about stalking, the way they are and in the end he attacked me/raping me. (1973)

Stalking is so serious as serious as abuse. After my experience, I consider stalking a form of abuse. I felt abused, invaded, controlled, isolated, and down right pissed off. If that made sense.

Thank you for let me share my story.

I saw a show this morning... a real good looking African American from Las Vegas. A limo driver... had a 21 yr old stripper stalker...
He went to LE and they LAUGHED AT HIM!!!

She killed him and herself and he had a wife and young daughter....

As a man... it must be hard to report such stuff..
JA recorded everything! She had TA by the *************** IMO

ETA: In fact I think her ************were bigger than his!

I am thankful you survived and went on to help others! The world needs more good people like you!

 

[Schuby]

On the ID channel Stalked Show, the Psychologist who narrates the show says "The one way to escalate a stalker to violent status (paraphrase) is get word their victim of obsession is dating someone."

Travis situation with Jodi would be on that show. She said 3 million are stalked every year including herself. Even though not all end in death but some do. (Travis)

Scarey. The laws and law enforcement do not do enough at the early point to help victims to stop them in some states. California have the strongest laws for stalking because of celebrities. The rest of the 49 have varied pathetic versions.

I was stalked before any laws were around in fact before the word "stalked" were in use (1973). Nothing were available to me for help other than move.
It was just a horrible feeling to know that another human being could invade you life and nothing can be done except "move".

I attempted to handle it not knowing anything about stalking, the way they are and in the end he attacked me/raping me. (1973)

Stalking is so serious as serious as abuse. After my experience, I consider stalking a form of abuse. I felt abused, invaded, controlled, isolated, and down right pissed off. If that made sense.

Thank you for let me share my story.

Wow, thank you for sharing that.
Similar to what you say above about the heightened risk once a stalker perceives his/her victim has a new love interest, another one of Travis' friends was on DD last night and spoke about how Travis was trying to cut ties with Jodi. It reminded me of how we often hear that for women DV victims, they are at greatest risk in the period immediately after they leave their abuser.
*hug*

 

[christee]

I put this together pretty quickly - I should redo it, but not now

I did this to show that the blood drip pattern in the clear photo matches the blood drip pattern on the 'object' in the hall.

This is Travis' back. I cannot explain the position. But I do know this is what it is.

The bottom photos are the size I started with. The middle pair (same photos) are zoomed in on. The top pair are, again the same photo - just zoomed even more (had to crop for size reasons, but you can compare the blood shapes... there is more blood in one than the other, but it's his back.

The metallic thing in the top-most left corner is JM's pen.

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Whew, TG you just saved me a lot of time...I was gonna try and do that comparison but with just the originals.

I thought the shiny part in the upper left corner near the white border of the original photo was glare from the overhead lights but JM's pen is sneaky like that! :giggle:

 

[Curious Me]

No I just found some sentencing statistics and she could do 35 yrs. for second degree. She's 26-27 so she would be in her late 6o's or 70.

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/00704.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

Born July 9, 1980, so she's turning 33 this year. What happens when somebody gets out of prison at age 68? Do they get some kind of SSI to live on? She'd definitely have to latch on to somebody quick. Maybe her and Matt can get back together. But I'm going to have some faith in the jurors that she'll at least get LWOP.

 

[christee]

Oh and since we're looking at pics...
A few weeks ago I did this crop from the original dragging pic. The arrows are pointing to what looks like a design of some kind, I even started to think it was a design on the cuff of a sleeve at the wrist.
This is another one of those images that has me up late at night...like tonight :sigh:

(Hey now! I can hear y'all snickering at my late night delusions! :lol

 

[Schuby]

Born July 9, 1980, so she's turning 33 this year. What happens when somebody gets out of prison at age 68? Do they get some kind of SSI to live on? She'd definitely have to latch on to somebody quick. Maybe her and Matt can get back together. But I'm going to have some faith in the jurors that she'll at least get LWOP.

She's never getting out.

 

[gngr~snap]

She's never getting out.

or just tell the jurors IF she is ever released we will pick one of you to house her...

MIGHT have kept KC behind bars..


OK I am kidding...


JA won't walk IMO

 

[Curious Me]

She's never getting out.

I think we'll all start sleeping better knowing that. She hasn't stopped killing Travis to this day, and she causes his family great sorrow everyday.

(hard to sleep tonight, but I'm going to try again)

one lie, two lies, three lies,...
:countsheep:

 

[paperwing]

On the ID channel Stalked Show, the Psychologist who narrates the show says "The one way to escalate a stalker to violent status (paraphrase) is get word their victim of obsession is dating someone."

Travis situation with Jodi would be on that show. She said 3 million are stalked every year including herself. Even though not all end in death but some do. (Travis)

Scarey. The laws and law enforcement do not do enough at the early point to help victims to stop them in some states. California have the strongest laws for stalking because of celebrities. The rest of the 49 have varied pathetic versions.

I was stalked before any laws were around in fact before the word "stalked" were in use (1973). Nothing were available to me for help other than move.
It was just a horrible feeling to know that another human being could invade you life and nothing can be done except "move".

I attempted to handle it not knowing anything about stalking, the way they are and in the end he attacked me/raping me. (1973)

Stalking is so serious as serious as abuse. After my experience, I consider stalking a form of abuse. I felt abused, invaded, controlled, isolated, and down right pissed off. If that made sense.

Thank you for let me share my story.

(((carnnell))) I'm so sorry. And so grateful for your courage.

Stalking is still very hard to charge. My local police chief told me they couldn't do anything unless he physically harmed me. He tried to once (threw a car seat at my face at close range) but it didn't leave a mark.

What he did to me psychologically, financially, personally, is what I call torture. All legal because he was a spouse or former spouse. Had he been a stranger I could have taken him to court for numerous things. I got a TRO - which he laughed at. He destroyed me. Almost completely. It makes no sense because I have no physical 'scars' but I have been absolutely affected physically.

I would shake when I saw his car come down the driveway. During the divorce I would nearly crash if I passed a car like his (usually it was his)... and even now I startle when I see that car. He used my children against me, and played the courts like a fiddle. His only priorities were his *ahem*, his wallet and his control. I can't even bring myself to describe what he did in detail. I learned what it meant to be a target - on every level of rage, abuse (physical on my children - which I think he did because he knew that would hurt me more than if he'd done it to me... if I didn't comply - he'd punish or harm THEM. Okay I can't say any more on this. I reached out to a battered women's shelter - they showed me the door. That really, really hurt. I had proof, evidence, recordings, police reports, just not a mark on my body. And he knew not to leave marks on my kid - not one that would last. She had a 'safe word' and used it.
Okay I can barely type now. I just wanted to say thank you and know you're not alone here - there are many survivors here of different histories, tragedies and pain, but there is strength in community and I think it's why many of us are drawn to being so passionate about victims - even those we've never met...

I'm shaking now... it still hasn't left me. He's in a lull now, thank goodness. For the first time in almost 2 decades.But part of his MO was to keep me off guard - always. To the point where every moment of my life was spent dealing with obstructions, changes, false emergencies, false schedules, tormented children... just trying to regroup. I still have trouble using or hearing a phone ring (I scare other people with my yelps and startling jumps) and I have trouble leaving the house or answering the door. I used to be a fit, competent supermom (so others said) and now... ugh. Sorry. I meant to give you support and ended up selfishly talking about myself. I'm so sorry.

He was the first person I'd ever met who is without conscience. When I finally realized such people even existed, it terrified me even more. He's not on the level of JA, but he's close enough. His obsession was destroying me - not ending my (physical) life. Just everything else. And he succeeded .

I can't imagine enduring a physical, brutal attack as you have - and yes, 'back then' it was even worse for victims (women in general). It hasn't come far enough. Not nearly enough.

I hope you're doing better - I pray for better laws sooner rather than later.