trial day 38: the defense continues its case in chief #112

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guess I should give an example of Dr Drew exaggerating. When he was interviewing the friend of Travis who was confronted by Jodi in the bathroom at one of the PPL conventions. Dr Drew was pushing her to describe the situation in a much different way than what she was saying. Dr Drew wanted her to say that Jodi was threatening, blah, blah. The friend, however just said Jodi sais she was not mad at her but at travis and that they are an item now. IMO this case does not need any exaggeration.

Did you research the rest of this story? Jodi would NOT let this girl out of the bathroom, after she annouced that she and Travis were an "item" ...a friend entered the scene and thankfully she got out of there and away from the psycho.
 
I. Love. Janine. Driver.
That is all.
 
There it is:

Chris Williams ‏@chriswnews 43s
#JodiArias mom told me that are "domestic violence awareness" ribbons @mandy_hearts

Kinda ironic dontcha think. Considering Jodi's Mom took a wooden spoon to her :facepalm:
 
Did I hear/read correct that Jodi was angry with her Mother as her Dad made innapropriate (sexual) comments to her and Mom didn't support her??? If so I was wondering when a hint of that would enter this trial. Shades of CA Defense :furious:

She had better think twice about going down that road. The difference between her and the other defendant is JA will be in prison, possibly Death Row and her family will be the only ones she has left in this world who even care about her.

MOO
 
I disagree Travis was emotionally abusive to JA, or anyone. Imo a guy not telling a woman 'where she stood' or 'dating others' does not constitute emotional abuse. Nor does having sex with them constitute abuse if they participate willingly. Now if he lied to her and made her think he was exclusive to her, that would be different. But there hasn't been a shred of proof that was the case. Where in the 22,000-26,000 texts and emails does he even say I Love You much less claim to be exclusive? Wouldn't the defense have introduced them into evidence if that were the case?

Travis was never exclusive with Jodi. By her own admission they were never even a couple until 5 months after they met. His friends said he was never as into her as she was into him. He never stopped dating others, and while JA is fond of saying she broke things off with Travis on June 29, 2007 due to "mutual trust issues," it's likely the other way around. He wrote in his blog that turning 30 was an important milestone that made him realize no amount of achievement could compensate for not having a family, and he vowed to date from then on with a mind toward marriage. The date JA cites as their 'breakup' coincides with TA turning 30. He likely told her that was the end of their dating relationship.

His friends say Jodi's stalking behavior increased then, and she moved to Mesa. His roommate described TA having numerous arguments with JA about her showing up uninvited, hiding in his closet while he was out with other women, sleeping in his bed. How many times did Travis have to tell Jodi not to contact him again? In fact, Jodi's handwriting shows she likes a challenge.

We've seen proof that Travis told Jodi exactly where she stood with him. In text messages he calls her "the ultimate 🤬🤬🤬🤬 in bed," says she'll "rejoice in being a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬." He didn't lead her down that path, she enticed him there. She used sex as a weapon. But she knew very well he was looking for a good Mormon woman to date and marry, and it would never be her.

The phrase, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" dates back to the 1600's when playwright Wiliam Congreve wrote the following line in his play, "The Mourning Bride." That was 400 years ago.
"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned" :devil:

That won't be lost on the jury. One juror question was, 117. "Were you mad at TA while you were stabbing him?"
Other juror questions were:
46. "Why did you confront Travis after seeing him w/ another woman through his back windows if it was not due to jealousy?"
87. "What is your understanding of the word 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬?" :facepalm:
106. "If TA wanted the sex convo recorded, why didn't he record it?"
107. "If you didn't want to be tied to a tree, why did you go and look for a place he could do that?"
156. "Do you feel the guys in your life cheated on you because you were controlling?"

I never said Travis was emotionally abusive to Jodi - that she knew of. But he did use her for sex and say cruel things about her behind her back. He also kept trying to talk his ex-girlfriend into marrying him while at the same time having sex with Jodi that the ex never knew about.

That's emotionally abusive though on the mild scale and the type of stuff that we all probably have experienced at one time or another. The Hugheses did say to him that he treated Jodi badly in how he used her for sex. ANd he also treated his ex badly by talking marriage with her while not letting her know anything about what he was doing with Jodi.

He wasn't a squeaky clean saint. But he was pretty average for most guys at least those outside his religion.

But none of this at all justifies what Jodi did to him even before she killed him... the stalking, the snooping, the sneaking in his house and hiding to spy on him, the inviting herself where she wasn't wanted and refusing to leave, the harrassment of the other women around him, etc.

And none of this has one single thing to do with Jodi's claim that he physically abused her because though he did use her and treat her rather badly, he basically took what she threw at him since she was the sexual aggressor throughout the relationship, and whether or not he treated her badly emotionally, it has NOTHING to do with physical abuse and her claim that she had to kill him because he was physically abusive to her.

Travis never physically abused anyone, and we all know - including that biased woman droning on and on and on on the stand - that physically abusive men physically abuse all the women they have relationships with as long as they stick around long enough. Of all the women that Travis dated not a single one claimed any kind of abuse from him whatsoever

It doesn't matter if he even was horribly emotionally abusive toward her (which he wasn't) - that has NOTHING to do with physical abuse that she claims he did to her and why she had to kill him, and she's the single only person that ever claimed any physical abuse by him and only since her latest story trying to weaslee out of his cold blooded murder. The ONLY thing that ALV can possible point to as any evidence of physical abuse by Travis is the lying words of Jodi the lying liar who lies.
 
Did I hear/read correct that Jodi was angry with her Mother as her Dad made innapropriate (sexual) comments to her and Mom didn't support her??? If so I was wondering when a hint of that would enter this trial. Shades of CA Defense :furious:
When you figure that 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 4 boys have been molested, it's a good bet you'll hook someone on the jury if you can get that story out there.
 
Good Evening. They have been playng the tape for 12 minutes without Nancy interrupting. I am wondering why Nancy isn't unleashing the lawyers.

I could be wrong but I got a sense that after today's little hearing about HLN and JM's photo etc., the pundits and TH's are feeling as if maybe it might be a good idea to reel it in a bit. After all, now there is NO doubt that the DT is watching the media. We all knew it, they hoped for it, but it got a little messy there for a few minutes. And the last few evenings it has gotten a bit too much over the top IMO. Even NG seemed a bit too animated and salivating last evening.... now After Dark? I wish the Judge would issue a cancellation ruling STAT :)
 
The expected bias is conspicuous and extreme. Willmott's questions assume victims are women because she uses those words interchangeably. No other possibility considered. So all her questions launch from that platform. The witness likes everyone and I'm happy for her soul but not for the purposes of this trial. All of ALaV's clients are damaged goods and their outcomes are just a natural progression of what she divines in them. She is obviously a relativist and therefore the notion of judgment on a monstrous crime is anathema to her. We will not find justice in her testimony, merely empathy & understanding. She emphasizes that there are no saints and no villains. Her mind resorts to the developmental continuum and there she finds all her answers. She values highly the framework provided and it is also eminently convenient for the materials she wants to plug in or omit to include. I am left very sad today and I think most of us who follow this case are also sad, as we see and hear Travis's commendable life become a blot. His person, struck & injured every way possible with ringing words stated with credentialed authority from an "expert" under oath.

It's wonderful to see you Tuba my friend! Your observations are eloquently stated, as always. Yes, my heart is sad, but I still believe there will be justice for Travis.
 
Someone posted that a friend of Chris' told him not to worry that everything will be taken care of during rebuttal. If he is on the witness list he is not suppose to know what is going on, nor should he be talking to friends. Not sure when the comment was made but if it was recent I don't think he is suppose to comment to anyone about the case. jmo


Are we SURE this statement was made by Mr Hughes?

As much as I love this site, I have come across many statements that aren't fact. I think I even inadvertently perpetuated it once.

I'm beginning to question things without a link until it has been substantiated. JMO
 
I never said Travis was emotionally abusive to Jodi - that she knew of. But he did use her for sex and say cruel things about her behind her back. He also kept trying to talk his ex-girlfriend into marrying him while at the same time having sex with Jodi that the ex never knew about.

That's emotionally abusive though on the mild scale and the type of stuff that we all probably have experienced at one time or another. The Hugheses did say to him that he treated Jodi badly in how he used her for sex. ANd he also treated his ex badly by talking marriage with her while not letting her know anything about what he was doing with Jodi.

He wasn't a squeaky clean saint. But he was pretty average for most guys at least those outside his religion.

But none of this at all justifies what Jodi did to him even before she killed him... the stalking, the snooping, the sneaking in his house and hiding to spy on him, the inviting herself where she wasn't wanted and refusing to leave, the harrassment of the other women around him, etc.

And none of this has one single thing to do with Jodi's claim that he physically abused her because though he did use her and treat her rather badly, he basically took what she threw at him since she was the sexual aggressor throughout the relationship, and whether or not he treated her badly emotionally, it has NOTHING to do with physical abuse and her claim that she had to kill him because he was physically abusive to her.

Travis never physically abused anyone, and we all know - including that biased woman droning on and on and on on the stand - that physically abusive men physically abuse all the women they have relationships with as long as they stick around long enough. Of all the women that Travis dated not a single one claimed any kind of abuse from him whatsoever

It doesn't matter if he even was horribly emotionally abusive toward her (which he wasn't) - that has NOTHING to do with physical abuse that she claims he did to her and why she had to kill him, and she's the single only person that ever claimed any physical abuse by him and only since her latest story trying to weaslee out of his cold blooded murder. The ONLY thing that ALV can possible point to as any evidence of physical abuse by Travis is the lying words of Jodi the lying liar who lies.

And all of these so-called facts or assertions are Jodie's side of the story.... too bad Travis is not here to clear up the fog. Jodie was the abuser, the stalker and the murderer.
 
Are we SURE this statement was made by Mr Hughes?

As much as I love this site, I have come across many statements that aren't fact. I think I even inadvertently perpetuated it once.

I'm beginning to question things without a link until it has been substantiated. JMO

Agreed.
 
Which part of Day 10 is he in? I would like to go back and watch his testimony. TIA.

I just watched also, it's Part 3. First time I've seen Gus Searcy. I didn't get involved until Jody had been on the stand for 10 days. I missed a lot!

Loved watching Hughes. He didn't let and inch go by!
 
I know others here have said the same thing and now I do agree, having watched her telling the Ninja story (I hadn't seen it before now). There are moments of truth in that story and it makes me so sad. The way she described TA, on all fours, screaming in pain, etc. Those parts of it are real. She incorporated that into her fable.... the more she speaks the more you can pick out nuggets of the truth.
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There are indeed snippets of truth here which send chills down my spine. In my mind he was down on his knees while she was stabbing him in the back. I believe that she is saying blood is all over the place before having seen the crime scene photos. Based on the interview, she does remember things, which makes this memory loss on the stand all that more despicable.
 
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