trial day 44: the defense continues its case in chief #134

[Jane Jetson]

She battled Martinez on the simplest of questions. It's because she loathes men and was ticked off that she was having to answer to one, hence her wildly inappropriate 'time out' comment. ALV does not like a man getting the better of her.

IMO

I think she particularly didn't like Travis, because of what she believed and heard about him. That ruins her objectivity. :moo:

 

[Turnadot]

You're missing my point with a few aspects (like evidence) but it's okay. Don't want to keep beating this poor horse but...............

Don't you see what you just said and how that could NOT be beneficial?

This DT is helping her to escape the death penalty. Otherwise, she doesn't need a defense.
They can NOT in any way, shape or form, make like this was planned.

Therefore, no one could have been there with her. Because if there was, there is no defense. It was planned. Don't you see the conundrum this creates?

If true, it's the most ironic Catch-22 there is!!!! It's almost as good as some Rod Sterling Twilight Zone, twisted ending.

Not really, no. If Jodi told her defense someone else was there and named him outright, they'd put it out there and him on the stand during their case-in-chief and Jodi would have mentioned it during her testimony. They'd be stupid not to bring it up if she had an accomplice. Accomplice =s reasonable doubt. Jodi's defense would then be: he did it, I was scared and got out of there. Her gas purchases and planning could even be mitigated by accusing the accomplice of manipulating Jodi into buying those things - she's already claiming Travis used her, why not her accomplice?

Even Jodi's abuse claims could even be believable to the jury in some aspects because she could claim she brought a friend along to make sure she was safe when she talked to Travis about (cancun or breaking up) and Travis attacked, hence the battle and Travis' death. This accomplice would probably claim his innocence, but it wouldn't matter, he'd be reasonable doubt for Jodi no matter what he claimed. Moreover, a jury might even be more likely to believe a man slaughtered Travis than a woman.

Jodi has admitted to killing Travis, and until there's evidence of this phantom accomplice, I'm willing to err on the side that it's because there wasn't one. When the people who actually investigated and prosecuted this crime opine that she had help, I'll be far more willing to give it weight.

IMO

 

[coopzoo]

Plus, this expert witness, IMO, behaved inappropriately towards The State by saying things such as, "are you mad at me ... Mr. Martinez ... I am being bullied by you (JM).
<snipped for space>
I think that the above is another example of how this witness knowingly, willingly, and happily said things on the stand to purposely try to make JM look bad in front of the jury.

BBM

BINGO!! However, in my (non-expert) opinion, it did not go over well. She gave as good as she got, and her condescending tone and hostility toward JM was blatantly obvious. This witness is no shrinking LaViolette.

 

[RinkyDink]

This -----------> http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf is despicable.

Wow, that is astounding!!

She is a piece of work. An amazing delusion she is playing out for herself and others...I am completely gobsmacked by her behaviour. I have never seen anything like it in my life...she seriously believes her own lies...She feels if she micromanages everything herself she will be able to control the way others perceive and understand what she has done. And she has been doing this for how long, I wonder?

 

[TartLemon]

She battled Martinez on the simplest of questions. It's because she loathes men and was ticked off that she was having to answer to one, hence her wildly inappropriate 'time out' comment. ALV does not like a man getting the better of her.

IMO

~~IMO~~

The jury is tired. Willing to be attentive and taking their job seriously, but weary. They want answers.

It's so obvious the bias when the DT witnesses are calm and forth coming until they have to answer Pros questions. I'm screaming at the tv, "Just answer the *in' question". I'm there by choice. The jurors are required to be there.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

E=MC2

I cut my finger on a glass at Margaritaville.
I cut my finger on a metal plate while taking hot glasses out of the dishwasher
I cut my finger when I dropped a glass in Travis's kitchen
The ninja chick sliced my finger
I cut my finger while cutting green apples
Travis kicked me & broke my finger

The knife was in the bedroom on the night-stand
The knife was in the closet
The knife was in the dishwasher
The knife might be in a dumpster

He grabbed my sweater
He grabbed my waist
He lunged at me
He slapped me
He hit my neck
He grabbed my shoulders
He choked me out, till I was unconscious
He put it in my mouth
He put in in my but
He put it in my vajay
He put it in my hand
Next it will be he put it in my ear.

I wanna stalk Juan, I loved him today!!!....maybe I'll just crawl in his bed

I just want to bump this for awesomeness :rocker:

 

[Arabian Girl]

The fact that this latest witness got it wrong on both the pedophile accusation AND where the actual murder took place (Dr. Quack ALSO reported Jodi said in the closet) should be enough to cast more than serious doubt on either their truthfulness or the versions Jodi told them.

I hope the jury clearly sees of all her claims/stories, the 2 most serious, are CONTRADICTED by her only 2 witnesses, supposedly both *experts*.

:jail:

 

[SunDawnn]

Not really, no. If Jodi told her defense someone else was there and named him outright, they'd put it out there and him on the stand during their case-in-chief and Jodi would have mentioned it during her testimony. They'd be stupid not to bring it up if she had an accomplice. Accomplice =s reasonable doubt. Jodi's defense would then be: he did it, I was scared and got out of there.

Even Jodi's abuse claims could even be believable to the jury in some aspects because she could claim she brought a friend along to make sure she was safe when she talked to Travis about (cancun or breaking up) and Travis attacked, hence the battle and Travis' death. This accomplice would probably claim his innocence, but it wouldn't matter, he'd be reasonable doubt for Jodi no matter what he claimed. Moreover, a jury might even be more likely to believe a man slaughtered Travis than a woman.

Jodi has admitted to killing Travis, and until there's evidence of this phantom accomplice, I'm willing to err on the side that it's because there wasn't one. When the people who actually investigated and prosecuted this crime opine that she had help, I'll be far more willing to give it weight.

IMO

I have to believe this was a huge consideration with the LE. But because it's not pin-pointable and evidence lacks they are simply not going there. Besides, it doesn't make the ultimate result any different. Whether she acted alone or with an accomplice, Travis was still killed. Adding the possibility that she had help would only inflict speculation and they don't need that. They are going with their strengths and what they know.

Mentioning an accomplice would be too risky for the State because it would create unneeded ambiguity. It's really only beneficial to the defense team but.....they decided to paint this entire ambush as a complete impromptu event. From going there at the last minute---- right down to the brutal killing that she didn't mean to do nor can remember.

Anyway......we gotta love how these two expert witnesses have turned out to be the State's best witnesses in showing this jury the ridiculousness of this entire case. Gotta love karma!!

 

[Turnadot]

I have to believe this was a huge consideration with the LE. But because it's not pin-pointable and evidence lacks they are simply not going there. Besides, it doesn't make the ultimate result any different. Whether she acted alone or with an accomplice, Travis was still killed. Adding the possibility that she had help would only inflict speculation and they don't need that. They are going with their strengths and what they know.

Mentioning an accomplice would be too risky for the State because it would create unneeded ambiguity. It's really only beneficial to the defense team but.....they decided to paint this entire ambush as a complete impromptu event. From going there at the last minute---- right down to the brutal killing that she didn't mean to do nor can remember.

Anyway......we gotta love how these two expert witnesses have turned out to be the State's best witnesses in showing this jury the ridiculousness of this entire case. Gotta love karma!!

This could be absolutely right, for sure. When this trial is over perhaps LE or Martinez would be willing to speak out if they felt she had help and saw indications of it, but lacked tangible evidence to put someone else there, so they, like you said, didn't go there.

I have seen stuff like that on Dateline and 48 Hours Mystery.

 

[Callisto]

I don't know if this is old news but I just found out that Jodi has a "Twitter Account" ran by her friend Donovan

https://twitter.com/jodiannarias

From Foxnews: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/11/jodi-arias-reportedly-tweeting-from-behind-bars/


Hmmmmmmm

Wow if that's an accurate depiction of her personality then I hate her even more. Many rude references to JM on there also.

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[G&AMom]

I have a question that has been bothering me...the defense has referenced it quite a few times during the trial and it seems to be part of the reason why Jodi was so-called abused.

Their first sexual encounter, oral sex, was upsetting to Jodi because she felt it was too soon. Why is this used as part of her being abused? She never made it known to TA that she was uncomfortable/didnt want it and she never said NO! Fear of rejection is HER craziness not his. How was he to know she wasnt enjoying it fully if she never said no and she never said she was uncomfortable!

Slightly snipped by me.

Slowly catching up here from yesterday. I thought this was a really good question. It hadn't really occurred to me. Everyone seems so focused on the fact that this was a sign of how "depraved" he was. They hadn't even been out on a date at this point, had they? Are they really trying to argue that Travis was such a Svengali that she was under his sway from the minute he said hello? I really hope the prosecution brings this up. Maybe when DeMarte is on the stand.

 

[Linda From New York]

Good morning!

Hope they get to juror questions today.

I will not and did not listen to Wilmott on re-direct or whatever it's called. Tit for tat???

See you all when I come home for lunch. Though I am sure it will not start on time and I'm sure Wilmott will still be up at bat!

 

[FrayedKnot]

There was a GREAT post by SmoothOperator last night regarding the morphing of JA's appearance. It's more than just strategy by the DT. Her evilness is starting to show. Her mask is falling off. Literally.

It's bizarre actually.

It would be great to see a photo progression of JA beginning from her time with TA up until yesterday......hint hint beg beg to some of you creative peeps with tons of screen grabs....:lol:

It really is bizarre how much her appearance has changed and it is NOT just a lack of makeup, I tell ya. I know I am in the minority but I thought JA appeared to be a pretty girl in her photos from 2007-08. I thought the blonde was a little harsh, but her face was smoother and fuller and her features softer and lighter.

Now her head and face appear huge and craggy, she is beetle-browed and has deep marionette lines (I do, too, but I am much older than JA) and of course there is the prison pallor.

She simply does not look like the same person even accounting for stress, diet, lack of sun and lack of cosmetics. It's weird. :waitasec:

Oh! And another rambling thought.....(coffee hasn't kicked in yet).....to whoever it was who mentioned setting the stage for insanity defense.....it sure appears that way with the drugged up stares and the coloring and the jacket and inappropriate facial gestures (and often lack of any gestures) .......IANAL, but it won't fly. She has already been shown as sane, legally speaking. Unless they are hoping it will help during her sentencing phase? IDK.

 

[josie1986]

morning :seeya:

looking forward to JW finally finishing today and getting onto jury questions hopefully.

i can almost taste rebuttal its so close :great:

o/t
the excitement never ends in my house,treated myself to a new vacuum,toaster and one of those one cup kettle things....i sound old before my time i think :floorlaugh:

 

[raisincharlie]

I woke up to a message from a friend this morning about this, I don't know how to stop a twitter account that is being written by a friend! Between this and her art, this whole thing is crazy!:banghead:

Kind of obvious that someone is well over the Law of Attraction...read it and:floorlaugh:

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I woke up to a message from a friend this morning about this, I don't know how to stop a twitter account that is being written by a friend! Between this and her art, this whole thing is crazy!:banghead:

Nurmi and Willmott will be interesting to watch today .. They'd be furious with Arias .. As if this trial isn't hard enough.

 

[nadjatheresa]

I don't know if this is old news but I just found out that Jodi has a "Twitter Account" ran by her friend Donovan

https://twitter.com/jodiannarias

From Foxnews: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/11/jodi-arias-reportedly-tweeting-from-behind-bars/


Hmmmmmmm

How could this be true?

 

[pferrin]

This is prolly old news to yall.. I noticed this a m that under maricoba county superior court records that the dt filed a motion to compel journals taken from ja on or about april first. The motions were just filed. Sounds like ja wants her manifesto back. Hehehe

 

[josie1986]

scary mary right there

cant you tell im pretty bored

 

[pferrin]

How could this be true?

Well IMO when 2 sickos unite they do more sick behavior.

I agree with KCL. ...dont go to those sites cause it is just feeding fuel to ja.

Ignore the twitters from them.

I remember Mr Jeff Ashton prosecutor for ca case ...after the trial ended ..he said just ignore ca. I have followed his suggestion and none of my energy goes to her.