Trial Discussion Thread #36 - 14.05.09 Day 29

[Interested Bystander]

Why does he not just answer the question? He is making it much worse for himself, and the defence, by prevaricating.

 

[zwiebel]

N: Who gave you the position OP was in when he fired the shots?

W: Cp Mangena.

N: So you agreed with Cp M where accused was standing?

 

[Freya1977]

Y'all need one of these Cannabis Punkin' Pot Pies. They're incredible!

Pass me one please

 

[Trooper]

Nel. we'll deal with that ( nels fave mutter) ..

Nel. on may 8th . you went with captain Mungeena, and made certain observations>>

Woll. I took photos , too.


Nel. and I am sre you would have reported back to the defence.. ??

Woll I am sure I did but not in a written report..

Nel.. we got sidetracked from you discussing things with the accused. were certain questions asked of the accused??

Woll. well. he was there, oh yes. I suppose so. yes.


Nel. so. you agree with Mungeenas position from where he fired the shots from ?

Woll. approx. from the point Mangeena said, its a possibility.. . bit of weird babble going on now.

 

[JudgeJudi]

N: You said to the Court that OP was present when questions were asked and answered.
W: He was there at stages.
N: You agree with Mangena where the accused fired the shots?
W: Approx from where he took his measurements re the height of OP and the position of the deceased.

 

[zwiebel]

After a long meander, W says he did agree with Cp M where OP was standing.

 

[katydid23]

I feel sorry for Woolie now. He is too old for this kind of testifying. Poor guy. He is a genius, but a bit past his prime.

 

[patCee]

The accused participated in the shot tests???????

Tell me it isn't so.

 

[christee]

Just once I'd like to see someone refuse one of OP's drawrings he hands to his team.

 

[zwiebel]

Showing a photo of toilet, laser and beam. W agrees that shows 'approximately' where OP would have been standing.

Me: It's maybe 60cm away? I couldn't really tell from that pic.

 

[Freya1977]

Where's our tea break?

 

[Emz73]

Awww that was sweet. Like father and son.

 

[zwiebel]

Cp M calls W 'My Wymung'?? And he sometimes calls him 'my son'???

Says they are Afrikaans terms and that means they have the greatest respect for each other so he will not criticize him....

 

[JudgeJudi]

W and Mangena have respect for each other. Mangena calls him Oom.

 

[Trooper]

oh dear. Woll is maudlin and sentimental now. long detail of his respect for Mungeena, mungeenas respect for him he calls mungeena something like his ;'little bomb' or little Don. missed it. lot of stuttering going on,

 

[Suthrnqt]

Y'all need one of these Cannabis Punkin' Pot Pies. They're incredible!

Yes I do. Maybe a dozen.....I'll pm you my addy. :floorlaugh:

 

[Trooper]

I am feeling very sorry for Woll now. I kinda thought I would and so it has been ... I just want him to lie down with a cup of strong tea, with plenty of sugar, and listen to some Johnny Clegg for a while.

 

[katydid23]

So after throwing Dixon under the bus, Woolie praises Mangena highly, says they have much mutual respect for each other, and he wouldn't want to go against his findings.

" ...he even calls ms Uum, which is very respectful ..."

 

[zwiebel]

N: Do you agree if one moves the laser from there (B), to C, it will not get to E?

W: The laser could be just a little bit higher, then it would reach..

N: But you would have to move the laser to the right, to the washbasin?

W: You don't have to move, you could just twist your wrist, the angle would change.

W explains OP would not have had to move his body, just his hand.

 

[jay-jay]

Does this bloke know nothing about trajectories? .. those holes in the doors have specific angles to them :facepalm: