trial thread: 3/21/2012

[snoofer]

guess MTR likes that kind a gal IMO...this goes to his character. You are the company you keep IMO.

 

[dilbert]

Well they say you are what you think you are so all her "dreams" came true except IMO I think she couldn't handle it because it was all talk and she broke

She just testified that she wasn't all talk.

 

[Oldsoul2]

She just testified that she wasn't all talk.

She also testified she was responsible for the final blow, not in my opinion, did she actually do any of what she threaten to do?

 

[~n/t~]

She just testified that she wasn't all talk.

She also said that was then and she's not like that anymore <paraphrasing>. I'll go look for the tweet.

 

[dilbert]

She describes wanting to "grab someone off the street" and "smash their skull in" and "change her appearance with hair dye" - that was all before she ever met MR - Now, tell me WHO'S idea it was to kidnap Tori and smash her skull in and try to change her appearance with hair dye?

 

[~n/t~]

McC "I'm not saying I wasn't violen because I was. But that was a different point in my life" #rafferty

The excerpt describes a detailed account about how she thought of killing and mutilating someone #rafferty

McClintic admits to writing the extremely violent letter. Details too violent an graphic to tweet #rafferty

These letters were all written in 2008 before meeting #rafferty or Tori.

This is the tweet I was referring to. BBM


She claims this was a different point in her life. Does that mean she was violent then (even though she didn't murder anyone) and when Tori was kidnapped she wasn't violent anymore?

Doesn't this go against what she testified to that she murdered Tori?

 

[snoofer]

wonders if snippits of these poems were on her facebook or the web???? For MTR to see at one time.

 

[Oldsoul2]

She describes wanting to "grab someone off the street" and "smash their skull in" and "change her appearance with hair dye" - that was all before she ever met MR - Now, tell me WHO'S idea it was to kidnap Tori and smash her skull in and try to change her appearance with hair dye?

What I think is she shared her "dream" with MR and he dared and delivered, it suited what he wanted

 

[dilbert]

I wonder if TLM saved all those letters or if the person she was writing to saved them?
All very damning.

MOO

 

[~n/t~]

She describes wanting to "grab someone off the street" and "smash their skull in" and "change her appearance with hair dye" - that was all before she ever met MR - Now, tell me WHO'S idea it was to kidnap Tori and smash her skull in and try to change her appearance with hair dye?

So she's a liar. Maybe she lied that she murdered Tori.

 

[swedie]

OMG, I feel like I am on another planet and this is just the tip of this iceberg. Such evil!!

With reference to MR maybe wanting to belong to a gang, IMO, he is too much of a coward, but a wannabe I think so.

Just MOO.

I believe MR "knew of" TLM long before the pizza shop. He probably heard a lot about her through others in Woodstock. Woodstock is a small community where it is quite easy to familiarize yourself with other locals, especially the younger generation/crowd, and especially if these two were drug user. :moo: MR hunted her down/stalked her and eventually introduced himself at the pizza shop. He knew he had "good things coming his way", when he meet TLM. Someone stupid enough and a wannabe gansta girl to help him carry out his sick plan; which he was too cowardly to do on his own. (Then again, maybe he had tried in the past and was unsuccessful in luring little girls) again, JMO. He wanted someone else involved also so he could cry "I didn't do it". TLM was the perfect fit for his plan :moo:

 

[dilbert]

Maybe she lied when she said that MR killed her.

MOO

 

[~n/t~]

Maybe MR acted out one of her "fantasies" :moo:

 

[Oldsoul2]

Also didnt she testify that when MR asked her if it was weird to take people out of their homes she said "yes" now we hear that it was her fantasy, they discussed it

 

[snoofer]

two rotted peas in one pod

 

[swedie]

I wonder if TLM saved all those letters or if the person she was writing to saved them?
All very damning.

MOO

What will be more damning is the actual evidence against MR. That will come in good time. :moo:

 

[Sailor Bug]

Thanks everyone for all the tweets XO

 

[~n/t~]

Maybe she lied when she said that MR killed her.

MOO

She admitted she lied. She said she did it. Which is the bigger lie?

 

[snoofer]

doesn't say alot good about the quality of the psychological help/and or follow up she received in the past...or our system...this girl should have had red flags all over her...the system failed massively both her and society.

 

[Kamille]

Well this is all well and horrific but has she actually done anything to any of the people that were threatened in these letters?

And where is the letter that threatens TM and her family?

And here she is now between a rock and a hard place. She has to spend the next 23 years at least in prison, where she obviously wants to keep up her "fierce street cred gangsta persona" for protection, so she can't exactly answer that the persona she spent years cultivating was an "act" or was all for show now can she?

I'm with her though. How is an entire day reading out these letters relevent? I get it...we all get it. She's a tough gangsta wannabe. I say wannabe because up until she eventually admitted to striking Victoria in the head three times with a hammer, she didn't have the killer credentials did she? Now she can consider herself a full fledged crip because she has her first, and, lord willing, only murder under her belt? Is she eligable for a tear drop tattoo now? It's just all so frustratingly nauseating. And to know that there are many others like her running around free is just frightening. Because if any of them meet up with a sexual deviant with a plan, we're going to be dealing with this all over again.

MOO