trial thread: 3/23/2012

[Sailor Bug]

My theory is that CM thought that breeding the dogs was worth $400 in Oxys, hence the drug debt when it didn't pan out.

I do hope they clarify in court who James Goris owed that drug debt to.

 

[matou]

MR is stating that Amanda is friends with Tara from what I can tell in his interview. On page 6

http://www.scribd.com/doc/86510694/RAFFERTY-Michael-2009-05-15-Transcript-Proofed

 

[matou]

I meant why would he help TLM clean up the crime scene.

Because he was in it as much as she was?? JMO

 

[Hello_Kitty]

A lot of nervous inappropriate laughing IMO. Wish we could have seen the body language during this interview.

Footnote: After reading this interview, he is a liar too. IMO

BBM

Yeah, the body language would have been helpful to see. I remember when RW was interviewed by Det. Smyth... at first RW was at ease, laughing, and the more the interview went, the more Williams became uncomfortable, crossing his arms over his torso, his face got red.. etc

 

[matou]

A lot of nervous inappropriate laughing IMO. Wish we could have seen the body language during this interview.

Footnote: After reading this interview, he is a liar too. IMO

Was there ever any doubt? JMO

 

[swedie]

Sounds like investigators got a good shot (image) of his license plate from one of the videos, in order to track the car back to MR. :woohoo::skip:

Oops, nope it was the neighbours who gave that info I just learnt from the news. Anyhow I am still :woohoo::skip:

 

[Kamille]

Oh yeah, he says she lives somewhere near the second last street out of town, blah blah, doesn't sound believable to me, he stumbles through the whole thing. Is this place even near Oliver Stephen school and if not, how if Tori best friends with this girl? JMO

WOW...I only read the transcript but talk about a prolific liar!! And I'll have to go back and listen to him but he was just spewing them out without a problem. And there's another with some significant memory loss. How many times did he say he didn't remember in that interview?

Can't wait until they bring in the interview from when he was arrested. Or did he just clam up and get a lawyer?

No wonder he was MIA that weekend and they couldn't find his car. He must have been chitting bricks after that mess of an interview.

Oh and yes...it was a mychol persona who was posting disgusting things on that chat and those weird postings on youtube. I wonder if LE ever got a hold of those postings? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

I meant why would he help TLM clean up the crime scene.

Exactly...all he had to do was leave TLM there in the middle of nowhere and head for the nearest police station.

MOO

 

[matou]

He won't mention the name of his Oakville girlfriend. WHY? He says he'll call her Kate.
p.14-15

http://www.scribd.com/doc/86510694/RAFFERTY-Michael-2009-05-15-Transcript-Proofed

 

[maxfactor]

Just listening to the audio of MR's interview...

just wanted to mention that MR cannot call VS by name, he calls her "the girl that is missing"

That's exactly what jumped out at me too. At that point half of Canada knows who Victoria Stafford is but he doesn't know her name? puuuuulease! I also noticed he didn't want to give any info about Joy and Leslie but he sure talked a lot about TLM.:moo:

 

[roseofsharon]

Was there ever any doubt? JMO

I have to admit, at times I kept thinking, but what if ..., thinking he may have been caught up in TLM's vortex of criminal activity, but not now!!

Compliments to the detective ... smooth as glass!!

IMO

 

[Hello_Kitty]

Because he was in it as much as she was?? JMO

I think you need to read from the beginning of my thread or something. I was saying 'if he is so horrified, then why did he help clean up the crime scene. I mean if he hadn't done anything wrong, he wouldn't have agreed to clean up the crime scene. Anyway...

 

[roseofsharon]

Oops, nope it was the neighbours who gave that info I just learnt from the news. Anyhow I am still :woohoo::skip:

Speaking of the neighbours, remember when TLM was arrested, the neighbours were so stunned, as they said she was (paraphrasing) such a sweet girl!!!!!!!!! :what::what:

imo

 

[flipflop]

That's exactly what jumped out at me too. At that point half of Canada knows who Victoria Stafford is but he doesn't know her name? puuuuulease! I also noticed he didn't want to give any info about Joy and Leslie but he sure talked a lot about TLM.:moo:

and the fact that he said he didn't know TLM that well as they were just kind of friends, but he knew she had a court date and mentioned that he went to the detention center to see how she made out!!!!!

 

[Hello_Kitty]

Exactly...all he had to do was leave TLM there in the middle of nowhere and head for the nearest police station.

MOO

Bingo!! It was his car!! He could have taken off anytime.

 

[swedie]

McClintic said Rafferty gave her a sweater. A photo of a similar sweater, worn by Rafferty, taken from his Facebook account.

Showing shoes McClintic says Rafferty gave to her to wear, after hers were tossed from the car.

McClintic was shown shots of shoes. Picked out the ones she wore April 8th, 2009.

Rafferty watching intently in the prisoners box. Moving frequently

Hopefully we will get to see these photos also. Are there any on MSM yet? Going to look. MR's squirming now, really uncomfortable feeling I bet. :moo:

 

[Hello_Kitty]

That's exactly what jumped out at me too. At that point half of Canada knows who Victoria Stafford is but he doesn't know her name? puuuuulease! I also noticed he didn't want to give any info about Joy and Leslie but he sure talked a lot about TLM.:moo:

I guess he was trying to distance himself from the crime psychologically by not saying her name, m'sure the experts picked up on that.

 

[roseofsharon]

MR was trying so hard throughout the interview to disassociate with the entire story and people involved that IMO he only made it more blatant that he did know certain people, especially TS, whom he just couldn't bring himself to say her name. An international story and he is giving it one of these :waitasec: -- give us a break!!

He must have given himself a big "whew" when the interview was over thinking he was off the hook.

Thank you Oliver Stephens School for the video surveillance cameras.

IMO

 

[Flowercb]

@AM980_Court

• Derstine asks if Rafferty had any criminal record. Darmon says no. All the questions he has.

Audio of interview if anyone is interested. I don't know if anyone has posted it yet.

http://www.am980.ca/channels/news/local/Story.aspx?ID=1675463

Audio on/off is at bottom of page.

 

[Flowercb]

Bingo!! It was his car!! He could have taken off anytime.

Yes he could have taken off with Tori, returned home and been a hero. Defence didn't offer any good reason why MTR would think it was O.K. to take Tori to Guelph with them either. He should have said no way when she tried to get in the car with Tori.:moo: