Trial Thread 7 May 2012 - Closing Arguments, Defense then the Crown

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  • #501
RaffertyLFP: Derstine said Rafferty's connection to Mt Forest is not relevant - so what? Why would he drive all the way - lots of rural areas around

Nobody disputes McClintic played a part in the clean up. Witnesses called said Rafferty knew Mount Forest area.

"So what?" Derstine says. He suggests if Rafferty knew he was committing a crime, he wouldn't have driven so far

Other rural areas were much closer to Woodstock, he says.

Because he knew woodstock area would be searched. Duh? JMO
 
  • #502
Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Derstine urges the jurors to ask themselves, if they don't have McClintic's testimony, what is left to rely on?
 
  • #503
RaffertyLFP Derstine turns to forensic evidence - says it does not tell who did murder - whether there was sexual assault
 
  • #504
M980_Court Pollanen says Tori was savagely beaten and hit with a hammer. Crown may suggest there were four blows, not three like McClintic said.
 
  • #505
RaffertyLFP: Derstine says there was no forensic evidence car was at Mount Forest for the killing

The crown will suggest the removal of Tori's pants mean she was sexually assaulted. Perhaps she was killed while peeing, Derstine says.

No forensics show Rafferty's car was even at the crime scene. Only says she was stomped and hit with a hammer.
 
  • #506
RaffertyLFP Derstine says Rafferty already knew he had tools in car including a hammer McClintic would not know that

Where is the proof it was in there that day? Can he say this? He's speaking for Rafferty now isn't he?

MOO
 
  • #507
M980_Court No forensics show Rafferty's car was even at the crime scene. Only says she was stomped and hit with a hammer.
 
  • #508
RaffertyLFP: Derstine says there was no forensic evidence car was at Mount Forest for the killing [via Twitter]

What??
 
  • #509
RaffertyLFP: Derstine turns to DNA evidence shows there was killing and Tori's blood in the car and there was a cleanup

DNA evidence also helps little, he says. There was a terrible killing, and Tori's blood was found, he says.
 
  • #510
Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Derstine says Forensic evidence "Tells you less than you imagine". Can't say who did it, or if Tori was sexually assaulted
 
  • #511
So why believe she killed Victoria then?

MOO

Because she wrote it, listened to it and then lived it ...
Then fantasized about doing it again ...

It is easy to hate MR ... Could of ... Should of ...

It is scary to think that if MR plead guilty we would never of heard about TLM
 
  • #512
It was an exacto knife Derstine. Kinda hard to use as a murder weapon.

MOO


not really...I believe a couple of planes were brought down with an exacto knife...JMO JMO...can do a lot of damage...
 
  • #513
RaffertyLFP: Derstine said DNA evidence that Rafferty semen mixed with Tori's DNA - he suggests it was related to having sex in car with his girlfriends

Rafferty was a you g man with an active sex life. He may have had sex in the back of that car many times.

How many women were in the back of that automobile?" Derstine asks.
 
  • #514
Where is the proof it was in there that day? Can he say this? He's speaking for Rafferty now isn't he?

MOO

I don't know why that was allowed in. I hope the Crown objected. He can't make up evidence.
 
  • #515
Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Derstine urges the jurors to ask themselves, if they don't have McClintic's testimony, what is left to rely on?

Where have I heard that before. Derstine coming here during lunch now? LOL

MOO
 
  • #516
RaffertyLFP: Derstine turns to Goodlife fitness bag showing mix of DNA from Rafferty and Stafford

RaffertyLFP: Derstine said there are many alternative explanations for how that DNA got mixed

Tori's blood was on his gym bag, mixed with Rafferty's, according to the crown. There were three DNA profiles there.
 
  • #517
Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Derstine says the forensic evidence in this case tells you less than what you might imagine it tells you.


Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
on the DNA evidence, Derstine asks: How many women have been in the back seat of that automobile?


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How many women had Tori's blood type, Derstine? 1 in a gazillion.
 
  • #518
It was an exacto knife Derstine. Kinda hard to use as a murder weapon.

MOO


9-11, just saying

Didn't TLM stab someone in the neck with a pen?
 
  • #519
Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Though Tori's blood is in #Rafferty's car, Derstine says no forensics show the car was at the scene for the purpose of the killing.
 
  • #520
RaffertyLFP: Derstine said 3rd sample of DNA in that sample came from one of his girlfriends - again due to sex in car

Multiple scenarios of DNA being deposited on the gym bag fit the crown's theory of the crime.

Derstine says he is "eager to hear" how the crown will explain the third DNA profile.
 
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