Trial Thread 8 May 2012 Wrapping up Closing Arguments

[Sailor Bug]

McClintic was much less likely to attract suspicion. She was a pawn. What if something went wrong? He had an easy escape route.

Rafferty had escape routes the whole day. "He had the keys. It was his car."

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said Rafferty chose nursing home parking lot was secluded and gave him a good escape route if something went wrong

 

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Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown: Oliver Stephens Public school was well suited for a plan devised for a kidnapping. Close to 401

 

[Sailor Bug]

Gowdey suggested Rafferty would have asked more questions, and not waited up the street, if he thought it was a school pick up.

If this was all innocent, is it realistic he wouldn't ask questions? Gowdey wonders.

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey asks why Rafferty did not ask questions Who is this girl? Why are picking her up? Where is the mother?

 

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said McClintic had no connections to children

The only time the two discussed children was Rafferty saying how easy it would be to grab a child.

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey deals with testimony that McClintic went into school He says she wouldn't know where to go

 

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said Tori's teacher did not see McClintic nor did anyone else

Gowdey says it would be difficult to target Tori. How would she find Tori?

Gowdey suggests the evidence given by the grandmother called for the defense may have been wrong.

 

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Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Gowdey asks the jury why #Rafferty didn't see red flags about the pick-up plan. Didn't ask any questions, if he didn't know who Tori was.

 

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Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Gowdey says Rafferty ready if things went wrong “All he had to do if things were not right was drive away, he had the keys, it was his car”

 

[brighidin]

As this sad case finally draws to a close, there is at least one woman certain that the smirking man in the prisoner’s box did not abduct, rape and kill Tori Stafford.

But then she is Michael Rafferty’s mom.


http://m.torontosun.com/2012/05/07/raffertys-mom-stands-by-her-son

The smirking man?...........But then she IS his mother?

Snide, smirky..............just plain weak journalism, pandering to societies seamiest emotions.

JMO........

JMO.........

SBM
Do you know anything about the history of journalism? Not being snide, but if you did, you wouldn't be surprised. Besides, you are quoting from the Sun and the NP. What do you expect? The Sun is a tabloid, and the Post pays CB to write polarizing opinionated columns.

 

[tmhco]

AM980.ca (@AM980_Court)
5/8/12 9:33 AM
Gowdey asks if it was innocent, why would Rafferty park down the street at the retirement home? In a parking lot concealed by trees?


BINGO!

 

[Sailor Bug]

She only got a "fleeting glimpse" of Tori and McClintic. But her perceptions may be wrong, due to "flood of publicity".

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said the Woodstock witness only got a "fleeting glimpse" of McClintic and Tori and her memory may have been affected by coverage

 

[JayFriend]

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said McClintic was able to manipulate Tori Gowdey asks if McClintic's plan - what was the plan?

The defense suggestion Tori knew McClintic was not in evidence, Gowdey says. "Some children are street smart, some are not".

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey asks why Rafferty parked at the nursing home it it was an innocent pickup of a child

BBM

While it may not have been in evidence, I still believe Tori and TLM remembered each other from meeting at TLM's house. Tara said TLM was high and "out of it" and didn't know what was going on, but I doubt it. Children remember a lot more than their parents are aware of. It's not inconceivable that Tori was targeted, but it still makes no difference to the Crown's case. JOM

 

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Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown says Grandma who testified she saw McClintic walk in to school had her memory affected media coverage

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Gowdey lists nearly a dozen questions #Rafferty should have asked, but didn't, if it was McClintic's plot to take Tori


Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Crown trying to shoot down the defence's argument that McClintic knew Tori Stafford. Says teacher didn't see McC leave with Tori.

 

[TopTop]

So far I really like the way the Crown is presenting their closing arguments. Very methodical, going step by step and extremely clear. Works well with the way my mind works.

 

[Sailor Bug]

Her description of McClibtic's jacket different from how it actually looked, Gowdey says. Seems like she remembers video from the news.

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said the Woodstock witness memory of McClintic's coat was faulty

 

[Sillybilly]

BBM

While it may not have been in evidence, I still believe Tori and TLM remembered each other from meeting at TLM's house. Tara said TLM was high and "out of it" and didn't know what was going on, but I doubt it. Children remember a lot more than their parents are aware of. It's not inconceivable that Tori was targeted, but it still makes no difference to the Crown's case. JOM

Tara was at CM's .. Tori was NOT.

 

[AbbeyR]

So far I really like the way the Crown is presenting their closing arguments. Very methodical, going step by step and extremely clear. Works well with the way my mind works.

Yes - the chapters were a brilliant idea. Now the whole story is just falling into place. I'm so relieved that closing arguments are so clear and powerful. What a change from yesterday!!

 

[Sailor Bug]

The grandmother said the child was talking a mile a minute, but her windows were up, caught a quick glance.

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey questions the "stern look " on McClintic's face during abduction say the evidence is not reliable

 

[Oldsoul2]

So far I really like the way the Crown is presenting their closing arguments. Very methodical, going step by step and extremely clear. Works well with the way my mind works.

I agree totally....It's called logical reasoning which we didnt get from the defense

 

[Sailor Bug]

Grandmother said McClintic looked stern. But, that wouldn't fit with her knowing Tori, according to Derstine's theory from yesterday.

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said Raffery's car drove by CASS at 9:04 am when McClintic was at a grocery store

 

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Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
McClintic was not the one masterminding the abduction of a child around 9:00 am that morning, Gowdey tell the jury.

Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Gowdey says at 9:04 am, #Rafferty was the one driving by the school. McClintic was picking up a food voucher and grocery shopping.


Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Gowdey continues to question story of defence's only witness, who said she saw a woman in a white jacket go into the school.