Trial Thread - 9 May 2012 Judge to give Jury Instructions

[snoofer]

Was just thinking. There are going to be lots of people skulking around this story for a profit. Who can also forget Clifford Olsen's hand in profitting from murder. I hope that RS and TM and their family will get together to tell their story and Tori's story with a seasoned professional author and use the proceeds for Darren's education and for a foundation to deal with missing children or educating children, or maybe to set up scholarships for victim's families. I would hate to see anyone else profit from this tragedy to to tell a less than truthful version of events. As hard as it would be for them; I truly hope they do that. MOO Maybe someone like Polly Klaas's father could recommend. Another idea would be to approach one of the universities to find an English Lit major working towards his PHD and get a student to write the story with their input. That would be a trustworthy way to get their story told professionally. MOO

Anyhow, I myself won't be reading any book that doesn't have RS name on it. MOO Or watching any movie on this story that doesn't have RS as collaborator. JMO

 

[robynhood]

veryFreeFMNews Gowdey repeats it's not important for the jury to make a decision on who did the actual killing. Only that they did it together. #Rafferty

so there ya go said by crown in court before lunch ...on tweeter ...shall satrt in 7 mins ...lunch over at 2;00 s ontario time...ty all robynhood

 

[Hello_Kitty]

"Eye rolling isn’t about a lack of respect or a lack of decorum. Instead, it’s a symptom of something larger that cannot be outlawed –feelings
of powerlessness."

http://whatyourbodysays.com/wp-content/uploads/SaylerPR4340664.pdf

Interesting...could speak to him feeling frustrated at what is being said and his own powerlessness to respond....or his sinking feeling that each statement by the crown is rendering less and less powerful??

If he was feeling so frustrated WHY DIDN'T HE TESTIFY IN HIS OWN DEFENSE!!

 

[CarrieBean]

If he was feeling so frustrated WHY DIDN'T HE TESTIFY IN HIS OWN DEFENSE!!

I believe the only thing his testimony would have done is dig him into a deeper hole.

I'm glad MR feels powerless. I'm glad his fate is in someone else' hands. It's still nothing compared to what Tori was feeling that day.

 

[snoofer]

If he was feeling so frustrated WHY DIDN'T HE TESTIFY IN HIS OWN DEFENSE!!

RS and MTR. Could there ever be two men so opposedly different. One wears a white hat the other a black hat. MOO

 

[Hello_Kitty]

I believe the only thing his testimony would have done is dig him into a deeper hole.

I'm glad MR feels powerless. I'm glad his fate is in someone else' hands. It's still nothing compared to what Tori was feeling that day.

Exactly, she was powerless against those two pitbulls as RS would say.

 

[Sailor Bug]

Jury is back in the courtroom. Gowdey going over Derstine's cross examination on McClintic.

RaffertyLFP: Court resumes Gowdey focuses on Derstine's attack on McClintic

Gowdey suggests Derstine glossed over the evidence, proceeded with a character attack.

 

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey admits McClintic has trouble with the truth so you have to look for independent testimony

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said Derstine went after McClintic's character but didn't really examine credibility "Truly, how she could make all of this up?"

Gowdey says he "can't emphasize enough" the importance of looking at evidence that supports McClintic's.

 

[robynhood]

AM980_Court Gowdey suggests Derstine glossed over the evidence, proceeded with a character attack.

 

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey admits that McClintic is violent but no history of assault or sexual abuse of children

Gowdey says McClintic had a violent history, but never before assaulted a child or committed a sexual offense.

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said McClintic was obsessed with Necro but hat did not mean she intended to live out violent lyrics

 

[~n/t~]

Linda Nguyen ‏ @LindaNguyenPN
"Don't judge the case by the depth of the defence's indignation about her character," Crown Gowdey tells jurors


Laura Carney ‏ @TheLC_75
Gowdey says the defense focused only on McClintic's character, not evidence.

 

[robynhood]

RaffertyLFP Gowdey admits that McClintic is violent but no history of assault or sexual abuse of children

 

[robynhood]

LindaNguyenPN Gowdey is explaining how they should interpret McClintic's testimony. "(Defence) doesn't want you to think about the evidence," says Crown

 

[robynhood]

AveryFreeFMNews The Crown says defence laywer Dirk Derstine spent days attacking McClintic's character and only glazed over her testimony. #Rafferty

 

[~n/t~]

Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
The Crown says defence laywer Dirk Derstine spent days attacking McClintic's character and only glazed over her testimony

Laura Carney ‏ @TheLC_75
Gowdey says defense never identified why McClintic would implicate #Rafferty


Linda Nguyen ‏ @LindaNguyenPN
Gowdey is explaining how they should interpret McClintic's testimony. "(Defence) doesn't want you to think about the evidence," says Crown

 

[Sailor Bug]

If she was the "murderous *****" the defense says McClintic is, why did she wait so long to act out on her fantasies?

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said McClintic believed relationship with Rafferty was good If she wanted to kill child why not do it alone?

 

[robynhood]

AM980_Court If she was the "murderous *****" the defense says McClintic is, why did she wait so long to act out on her fantasies?

 

[georgethecat]

I'm a lurker, but found my old password because I'm busting to note two things:

In Derstine's cross-examination of McClintic, he "suggested to her" that she presented Tori as a gift to Rafferty and that Tori was taken for a random drug debt. But that Rafferty refused.

Does this theory not mean that Rafferty - by his own lawyer's admission - knew that the child was kidnapped from the get-go?

And since in Canada, a person can be found guilty of first degree murder if it happens during a kidnapping - his own lawyer implicated him....?

[I noted that Derstine backed away from that theory somewhat during his closing...]

Also -I hate to chime in with such a distressing detail, but there was one single detail in McClintic's confession to Smythe that made me believe her story. I don't imagine it's something that will come up in the trial, because it is not something a lawyer would want to go anywhere with...

But... when McClintic was describing what happened, she said MR was ... please god forgive me... "preparing" himself (with his hand, down his pants....) as he drove into the secluded spot.... I thought to myself, this is a horrifying detail that could never, never have been "just thought up."

JMO....
It's such a sick detail, and yet, it rings so true, if you dare imagine the horror that allegedly happened there.

 

[robynhood]

AM980_Court If McClintic was getting pumped up to kill, why not do it locally, without an accomplice

 

[Sailor Bug]

If McClintic was getting pumped up to kill, why not do it locally, without an accomplice?

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said the music issue is a "distraction" from the real evidence in the case