GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #2

[KuriousKev]

I searched it but can't find. Could it be because search results listed in different order in different countries?

Would somebody be very kind and volunteer to take a screen capture for me?

I posted the image but it was removed by the mod. I can PM it to you if you like. The image is cached on an image sharing site and is not avail via @Taylloo google images search.

 

[looking4answers]

I saw one but I thought it was a tiger waiting on the tigress...? Or something like that.

Yes..lol, that's it. Bunny, Tiger....tomAto, tomatO..jk

 

[Yashim]

Yes but the only hole with those theory...is someone so whacked out of there mind enough to do something like that, isnt going to also be sane enough to conceal the crime.

Yes, but I think from the beginning we assumed it was a one "act" thing. Whoever attacked her leaves her there. Then druggies steal the iPad and hide her body.

 

[lavy]

I tend to think it isn't a woman because of the semen found on her body. Even if Taylan is telling the truth, and they had sex the night before she went missing, most American women that I know are going to bathe after a night of sex and clubbing. So the semen wouldn't have been on her body when she was found, IMO.

Was the fact that semen found confirmed? This unreliable press problem made me paranoiac. I remember one turkish paper said "semen like material" and it spread from there. Not sure if it is confirmed.

 

[ThinkHard]

Did she post the photos from Amsterdam while she was there or when she got back to Turkey? She could have used the plane time and airport time to edit.

Why would she have used the same airport time to edit ones from Istanbul on her way out? Look I don't know anything for sure, I just think that ratio of time to btw the two cities is interesting. Considering her trip focus was photography.

 

[necco]

Was the fact that semen found confirmed? This unreliable press problem made me paranoiac. I remember one turkish paper said "semen like material" and it spread from there. Not sure if it is confirmed.

What exactly could fall into the category of "semen like material"...

Does that mean ejaculate that might not contain sperm for some reason? What else could they mean?

 

[lavy]

There are nearly 3,000 mosques in Istanbul. Would you necessarily know which one you photographed?

You can't miss Hagia Sofia, Blue Mosque, Suleymaniye and Yeni Cami. I can't tell exactly. But all three may be Suleymaniye.

Few months ago I was showing around to a friend in Istanbul. It was very embarrassing when I couldn't tell which is which.

Except Hagia Sofia, it is church converted to a mosque (i think it is called museum now). And as ThinkHard mentioned it has a very unique architecture.

 

[ThinkHard]

What exactly could fall into the category of "semen like material"...

Does that mean ejaculate that might not contain sperm for some reason? What else could they mean?

Ayran? .....

Just kidding that was a joke

 

[tardislass]

What exactly could fall into the category of "semen like material"...

Does that mean ejaculate that might not contain sperm for some reason? What else could they mean?

There has been no mention of semen from LE or any legit newspaper. I think one of the Turkish tabloids said it and other followed suit.

 

[CMac2]

Was the fact that semen found confirmed? This unreliable press problem made me paranoiac. I remember one turkish paper said "semen like material" and it spread from there. Not sure if it is confirmed.

Unfortunately, I feel like the only thing that's been confirmed is that SS was murdered. Full stop. LOL.

 

[KivaSupporter]

Did I write this before? Ammer can be short for "Muammer" which is also a male name in Turkey.

Sorry, he is no Muammer. He is even on IMDB

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3340088/

Thank you, Yashim. I did not know that. I appreciate the information.

 

[necco]

Why would she have used the same airport time to edit ones from Istanbul on her way out? Look I don't know anything for sure, I just think that ratio of time to btw the two cities is interesting. Considering her trip focus was photography.

You're posing questions, I'm offering innocuous answers. Obviously, I don't know what she did either. I kind of feel like you're jumping down my throat no matter what I say.

 

[tardislass]

Few months ago I was showing around to a friend in Istanbul. It was very embarrassing when I couldn't tell which is which.

Except Hagia Sofia, it is church converted to a mosque (i think it is called museum now). And as ThinkHard mentioned it has a very unique architecture.

Believe it's a museum now but authorities want to turn it back to mosque.

 

[ThinkHard]

Few months ago I was showing around to a friend in Istanbul. It was very embarrassing when I couldn't tell which is which.

Except Hagia Sofia, it is church converted to a mosque (i think it is called museum now). And as ThinkHard mentioned it has a very unique architecture.

I agree, thanks for saying that a little clearer. Hagia Sofia would be very hard to confuse with another mosque.

 

[KivaSupporter]

I tend to think it isn't a woman because of the semen found on her body. Even if Taylan is telling the truth, and they had sex the night before she went missing, most American women that I know are going to bathe after a night of sex and clubbing. So the semen wouldn't have been on her body when she was found, IMO.

Please note- I'm not saying non-American wouldn't bathe under the same circumstances. I'm simply admitting my ignorance when it comes to this topic and women from other nations. No harm intended!

Again, I find myself agreeing with you. I understand your way of thinking.
Hopefully, others will share their thoughts.

 

[Yashim]

Yashim, that is an interesting question. I am wondering, if he were an undercover cop, what would that mean. Why the connection with Sarai?

By the way, I find it very interesting to hear opinions from all the people posting here, especially because they live in many different countries. What a great group! Please keep posting your opinions.

The craziest scenario that I heard was she was a German spy. And either CIA or Mossad took her out. And FBI is just in this thing to make sure LE don't find it out.

Anyway, is it possible that we can make an editable table on who is standing where? So that we can refresh our memories when they arrest the 14-year old druggie.

 

[ThinkHard]

You're posing questions, I'm offering innocuous answers. Obviously, I don't know what she did either. I kind of feel like you're jumping down my throat no matter what I say.

I didn't mean to make you feel like I was jumping down your throat. So I am sorry.

When you are trying to figure stuff out, you pose questions and analyze the potential answers to see how they line up with the other stuff you've heard or theorized .... As ok I see that, but did you consider this, or how but this.

It was NOT an attack on you. I was just analyzing those scenarios. And some of them I had already consider. I was just sharing my thoughts and analysis on those possibilities.

 

[lavy]

That's an interesting fact if it's true. Can you provide a link or some reference to the source so others can find it?

It was from a live tv discussion with criminal experts about Sarai Sierra case. Unfortunately I couldn't find a source, experts were talking from their experience.

What, just specifically female American citizens earn that?
I still don't see how people think there are drugs involved from Sarai's end. There's nothing that suggests it so far except the media. Maybe the police know something we don't, but so far it feels like a really far-fetched explanation without any evidence, or even hints.

I don't know. Its just what the police commissioner said. Maybe other drug muggers are earning that as well. Though it said American women is selected as they are least suspected, can go to other countries without too much visa trouble etc.

I think majority here does not think she was involved in drugs but it is back on discussion because of this link
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/staten_island/turkey_ma_shady_pals_fufaVJvDX6chDrmhlmYZyL

 

[KivaSupporter]

You're posing questions, I'm offering innocuous answers. Obviously, I don't know what she did either. I kind of feel like you're jumping down my throat no matter what I say.

None of us know what happened. But I, and I am sure many others, value your input. Please don't stop. We appreciate it.

 

[KivaSupporter]

I didn't mean to make you feel like I was jumping down your throat. So I am sorry.

When you are trying to figure stuff out, you pose questions and analyze the potential answers to see how they line up with the other stuff you've heard or theorized .... As ok I see that, but did you consider this, or how but this.

It was an attack on you. I was just analyzing those scenarios.

Let's all be more sensitive of other's feelings. I know we all mean well but let's be just a little kinder. OK?