GUILTY TX - Adrian Peterson for child abuse, The Woodlands, 2014

  • #41
I vaguely remember a recent study that showed children who were repeatedly beaten later showed genetic changes. Please don't ask me for a linky 'cause it's Sunday morning! ;)

Personally, I think it causes anxiety, personality, dissociative & reactive disorders---but heck, that's just what I've observed.

Moo
 
  • #42
I see plenty of people on FB sending around the meme that their parents spanked them and they are respectful and whatever else that says.


Respectfully snipped by me.

Thank you for mentioning this, it's a personal pet peeve of mine. Too many people get their "parenting skills" from those stupid little memes nowadays. Please see the link in my signature for memes encouraging gentle parenting. I believe we can combat the ignorance by fighting fire with fire, so to speak.

What most survivors of violence against children (that's what it is) who support physical punisment don't seem to understand is that, no, they are not okay. This makes me think some memes focusing on the long-term effects of childhood violence may be needed. This is a project that's gotten little attention, but I do so wish it would take off!
 
  • #43
We do not accept being hit as adults. It is called assault.

How totally disgusting that we accept assaulting children!!
 
  • #44
I recall my mother using a willow switch on me, although I have no idea why. Interesting.

That was the worst part of spankings for me. Asking why and being told 'you know why'. Um. No. I didn't. That's why I was asking..
 
  • #45
I'm about sick of people trying to quote the bible to support the abuse of children. Yes "spare the rod, spoil the child" it doesn't say beat your child with a rod. It was meant to symbolize parents having authority over tier children.

It really makes me sick that people who profess to be Christians abuse their children and back it up with their "faith".

People will use any excuse to justify their disgusting practices. :(
 
  • #46
The Bible is full of edicts that not even Christians (at least that I'm aware) suggest should be followed. Exodus 35:2, to cite just one example, declares that anyone who works on the Sabbath should be put to death.

But people cherry-pick the ones like "spare the rod and spoil the child" to suit their own purposes.
 
  • #47
I was spanked with a wooden paddle and a board. I was on the receiving end of a peach switch. I was never cut or black and blue, but it didn't matter. I have spent a lot of time in therapy asking "What did I do that was so bad that I warranted that"? I never continued that mode of discipline with my children. My mother, now 82, wishes she had known better. If she can recognize it at 82, WTH can't AP?
 
  • #48
Not just AP.

How about anyone who thinks this is acceptable? AP thinks he crossed a line. But it is still OK to hit a child.

It is so crazy that we must continue to talk about how crazy it is and how unacceptable it is.
 
  • #49
I was watching an nfl pregame show today.Boomer Eaisson went off saying he felt this was horrific and AP should never play again. Abuse -plain and simple. Then Charles Barkley said he was whipped as a child and black people use this form of punishment and it was and is ok. The interviewer said -that was in the sixties this is 2014-aren't things different? CB kind of agreed but still feels this is ok. Any respect i had for him fell with a thud. I was saddened that he could not see that it was abuse- not corporal punishment. We used to not use seatbelts,mom and or dad would be drinking while driving with kids in the car, bike riding with no helmets,ect,ect. We realized things were wrong and changed. Why is this different ? I was the recipient of the belt a time or two in my youth but had i been hit so many times i bled you can bet my Mom would have had a thing or two to say.What makes people think this is ok-I am so disheartened about our fellow humans.

http://thebiglead.com/2014/09/14/ch...trouble-or-in-jail-under-those-circumstances/
 
  • #50
Not that it is changed all the way, but domestic violence used to be considered family business.

We need to continue to advocate for changes. It must happen.

The way children are raised will make such a difference
 
  • #51
I was watching an nfl pregame show today.Boomer Eaisson went off saying he felt this was horrific and AP should never play again. Abuse -plain and simple. Then Charles Barkley said he was whipped as a child and black people use this form of punishment and it was and is ok. The interviewer said -that was in the sixties this is 2014-aren't things different? CB kind of agreed but still feels this is ok. Any respect i had for him fell with a thud. I was saddened that he could not see that it was abuse- not corporal punishment. We used to not use seatbelts,mom and or dad would be drinking while driving with kids in the car, bike riding with no helmets,ect,ect. We realized things were wrong and changed. Why is this different ? I was the recipient of the belt a time or two in my youth but had i been hit so many times i bled you can bet my Mom would have had a thing or two to say.What makes people think this is ok-I am so disheartened about our fellow humans.

http://thebiglead.com/2014/09/14/ch...trouble-or-in-jail-under-those-circumstances/

What makes it okay is that 19 states allow it, including Texas. Here's a "handy dandy" map:
http://www.businessinsider.com/19-states-still-allow-corporal-punishment-2014-3

If that's not enough reason, try this:
"Corporal punishment is lawful in the home in all states. State laws confirm the right of parents to inflict physical punishment on their children and legal provisions against violence and abuse are not interpreted as prohibiting all corporal punishment in childrearing. In Minnesota, examination of several laws led some legal experts to conclude that corporal punishment is not permitted in that state, but according to the legislation a parent, legal guardian or caretaker may use reasonable force to restrain or correct a child (Sec. 609.379. [Cr.]) and the Minnesota Court of Appeal has overturned convictions for physical abuse involving corporal punishment."
http://www.endcorporalpunishment.org/pages/progress/reports/usa.html
 
  • #52
Reasonable force---have you seen the pictures? That was above and beyond correcting a child.
 
  • #53
I know I love when my hubby uses reasonable force to correct my behavior. Don't you?

And sometimes my neighbor has to correct my behavior using reasonable force.

I am trying to be better, but I do mess up sometimes since my adult children sometimes have to use reasonable force to correct my behavior. Sigh, I hope I can behave good enough.

Sometimes I use reasonable force on my dog to correct his behavior. And don't even talk to me about my horses. Hello. They are big and need reasonable force.
 
  • #54
It creeps me out how whenever there is discussion about spanking, corporal punishment, or abuse in the news, you have people who "brag" about the abuse they suffered, and they tell us they turned out "fine". These people tend to confuse "functioning" with "fine".

Some of the people I see defending this on the Internet...this is what children who are "disciplined" this way end up like as adults? Eeeek. They are no where near as "awesome" as they think they are.
 
  • #55
  • #56
Reasonable force---have you seen the pictures? That was above and beyond correcting a child.

I agree. This wasn't a parent in contol who was correcting a child. This was a parent who was out of contol, beating a child out of anger.
 
  • #57
It creeps me out how whenever there is discussion about spanking, corporal punishment, or abuse in the news, you have people who "brag" about the abuse they suffered, and they tell us they turned out "fine". These people tend to confuse "functioning" with "fine".

Some of the people I see defending this on the Internet...this is what children who are "disciplined" this way end up like as adults? Eeeek. They are no where near as "awesome" as they think they are.

Yeah. What they fail to mention is all the people who did not receive this type of discipline and also turned out just as fine, or better.

I was whipped with a belt more than a few times and a switch maybe a couple. I would never brag about it. I wish I could brag that my parents never hit me, but I can't.

They didn't know any better; they were just doing to me what had been done to them. But that cycle needs to end in families.
 
  • #58
Yeah. What they fail to mention is all the people who did not receive this type of discipline and also turned out just as fine, or better.

I was whipped with a belt more than a few times and a switch maybe a couple. I would never brag about it. I wish I could brag that my parents never hit me, but I can't.

They didn't know any better; they were just doing to me what had been done to them. But that cycle needs to end in families.

According to them, the kids who aren't abused turn out to be "thugs" or "school shooters".
 
  • #59
I really shouldn't be looking at the FB profiles of people who are defending this. No self-awareness, whatsoever.
 
  • #60
I really shouldn't be looking at the FB profiles of people who are defending this. No self-awareness, whatsoever.

I see that I am not the only one who sees the messed up people on FB talking about how they are fine because they were hit.

Do people like to get hit? Do they think it teaches something positive? And what could that possibly be?

The whole idea is so crazy, it defies logic.

But then again, I remember when people smoked in stores and elevators.

Things can change!
 

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