Found Deceased TX - Alan White, 55, seen leaving LA Fitness, Dallas, 22 Oct 2020 #2

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I don’t know Alan’s history but there is a huge comfort zone factor with a gym (especially with instructors if you’re a class or trainer person). I have noted before, that I only joined websleuths after I had to stop going to the gym after Covid. I would not be here. The gym was my community through all the ups and downs of life. I have so many stories about my gym friends!! They were with me when I was pregnant, when I had babies, and now with kids. I saw them through losing spouses, getting dentures, driving into the gym and smashing the lobby in their car due to old age/cardiac/ events. There is a connection factor JMO.

It is interesting that there are also two upscale gyms he could go to very near his home aside from LA Fitness. He could go to equinox without getting on a main road and another neighborhood gym at lovers and Inwood. The monthly fees are higher but I think he would have felt comfortable in the atmosphere. Am surprised he chose to drive that far to LA Fitness. Just my opinion
 
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A local pointed out Alan's previous employment at Grant Thornton, and the house on Livingston had been completed earlier this year. His previous employment and rental were closer to the Haskell gym location. No mystery there, just a possible matter of driving convenience that he stuck with. We can all be creatures of habit in some ways. MOO-
 
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It also seems as though the Go Fund Me support (for PI, for expenses, for the reward $) has slowed/dried up, short of its goal. There's so much silence about what's going on with this case. Sad to imagine.
 
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This is a real sticking point with me too!

Knox’ explanation makes a lot of sense but why would he arrange to meet someone when he had an early morning phone meeting. What is the timeline?

I agree with @liveoak - I am having trouble buying that he would arrange any kind of morning meet up or exchange of items.

If he had planned a meet up in advance, I think he would have mentioned it to his husband as he gave him his detailed itinerary.

If the meet up came up at the last minute, then it would have to be someone bringing something to Alan (not Vice versa because Alan would not be prepared) or maybe a friend in crisis.

If such a meet up was arranged, I find it hard to believe he would have gone to a 2nd or 3rd location after being stood up at the initial location as some here theorized. That just seems like it would be unacceptable on his busy morning. He would reschedule or ask them to drop it at his home at that point.

The only exchange I can really think of would be an exchange of keys (eg real estate, someone who was doing work on a property getting or returning keys, house sitting or caring for pet or plant or property when a contact is heading out of town). Or a friend in crisis. But there would be messages for any of these.

Such a baffling situation.

I still think stranger crime (carjacking /robbing/ kidnapping gone wrong). Definitely open minded though. JMO.
 
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I agree it's plausible he was going to meet someone at that gas station, that could be why he chose it and ventured briefly inside, then he received a message to meet them elsewhere nearby. However I think if they planned to meet at a public place with cameras like a gas station, the purpose was something boring (like exchanging paperwork, or something like that). IMO
If Alan were targeted for some reason, perhaps, it was something seemingly innocuous. For all we know, he could have received a text stating, "Hey, I'm running late. Can you swing by my house to get the paperwork?"

Alan appears to have gone missing on his 1.5 mile route headed home. So, the meeting place would be a slight detour from his home route.
 
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If Alan were targeted for some reason, perhaps, it was something seemingly innocuous. For all we know, he could have received a text stating, "Hey, I'm running late. Can you swing by my house to get the paperwork?"

Alan appears to have gone missing on his 1.5 mile route headed home. So, the meeting place would be a slight detour from his home route.
IMO, there is no way that our Missing Subject would have been taking any side journeys prior to a 7:00am meeting. He is portrayed as being regimented, buttoned up. In his line of work, preparation is required; review of data, his analysis and recommendation would need to be prepared. As a consummate professional, he would want to review and prep for the call. He wouldn't be squeezing in other activities so close to that call IMO.

My speculation (ATM) still remains that he was tracked from the gym, stopped with a ruse, and was likely (I am so sorry to say) disposed of that very morning.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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IMO, there is no way that our Missing Subject would have been taking any side journeys prior to a 7:00am meeting. He is portrayed as being regimented, buttoned up. In his line of work, preparation is required; review of data, his analysis and recommendation would need to be prepared. As a consummate professional, he would want to review and prep for the call. He wouldn't be squeezing in other activities so close to that call IMO.

My speculation (ATM) still remains that he was tracked from the gym, stopped with a ruse, and was likely (I am so sorry to say) disposed of that very morning.

Amateur opinion and speculation
We don't know if this was a standard conference call where Alan was required to be there to listen or if he were going to be an active participant.

My husband is a top executive with his company who meets with the owners to discuss the financial health of the company in detail. He "knows" the business because he "lives" it every day. He doesn't need to review his notes or study anything beforehand because he knows what is going on day to day. That's his job.

Alan could have detoured for what he expected to be only a moment. We just don't know.

I unfortunately agree that he met his demise that very morning. Sad to say.

JMO.
 
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We don't know if this was a standard conference call where Alan was required to be there to listen or if he were going to be an active participant.

My guess is that "active participant" is far more likely. The time of executives and senior consultants is valuable. Thus, fewer "log in- zone out" opportunities.

The fact that Alan is an expert consultant and not an employee could well further increase the chances of active participant.

One of my relatives who works as a senior engineer mentioned to me years ago that he was not permitted to involve expert consultants in routine, or even semi essential meetings because their time was expensive and they billed for it- a lot.

As a result, if the consultant did not truly need to be in meetings, he or she could not be invited. Instead, the consultant's time was used to accomplish what ever the primary consulting need was.
 
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I just can't wrap my head around why his body hasn't been found yet? Whatever happened to this poor man, you would think he would have been found by now.
 
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I just can't wrap my head around why his body hasn't been found yet? Whatever happened to this poor man, you would think he would have been found by now.
While it is certainly the last thing we would hope for, it is more likely that he will never be found I am sorry to say.
Sure hope I'm wrong on all accounts, and that against the odds, he makes it back home. Anything is possible given the scant amount of information we have.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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While it is certainly the last thing we would hope for, it is more likely that he will never be found I am sorry to say.
Sure hope I'm wrong on all accounts, and that against the odds, he makes it back home. Anything is possible given the scant amount of information we have.

Amateur opinion and speculation
You're most likely right. But this scenario requires that someone took the time to not only take his life but dispose of him so that he is not found. By all accounts, he seems so "squeaky clean". An accident, car jacking, or self harm would have surely turned him up by now. This seems to be more targeted. And that's where someone will need to talk in order for this case to be resolved. IMO of course.
 
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You're most likely right. But this scenario requires that someone took the time to not only take his life but dispose of him so that he is not found. By all accounts, he seems so "squeaky clean". An accident, car jacking, or self harm would have surely turned him up by now. This seems to be more targeted. And that's where someone will need to talk in order for this case to be resolved. IMO of course.
Given where the car was allegedly found, a stop at the land fill would have been easy IWT. I'm so sorry to even type that, it is so disturbing.

It would be interesting to know what, if any, security cameras exist at that landfill. I think it should be law that landfills have 24 hour surveillance. The technology is relatively cheap these days, and could likely be a tax write off anyway, perhaps?

This could be one of the many possibilities of where the Missing Subjects remains were left. If, of course, he is no longer amongst the living. Ugh, this one really bothers me.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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Speculation regarding body disposal at a landfill is interesting. Most bodies discovered at landfills are placed in a dumpster and transported via garbage truck.
I'm sure there are exceptions somewhere, but it would be rare to have an actual direct transport body dump.
 
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Speculation regarding body disposal at a landfill is interesting. Most bodies discovered at landfills are placed in a dumpster and transported via garbage truck.
I'm sure there are exceptions somewhere, but it would be rare to have an actual direct transport body dump.

Agreed, I don't think landfills are like they used to be in years past where a person could drive up and throw stuff in, much more regulated and secured these days, I'd think.

Unfortunately I tend to believe he's in that forest-y area between where he lived and where the loaner was found.
 
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Agreed, I don't think landfills are like they used to be in years past where a person could drive up and throw stuff in, much more regulated and secured these days, I'd think.

Unfortunately I tend to believe he's in that forest-y area between where he lived and where the loaner was found.
I agree with your thought. Is LE actively searching targeted areas?
 
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I agree with your thought. Is LE actively searching targeted areas?

I haven't seen anything about any searches, if they are, it's on the down low. I'd like to think the P.I. was organizing some but maybe they need LE permission, idk.
 
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I just can't wrap my head around why his body hasn't been found yet? Whatever happened to this poor man, you would think he would have been found by now.
Unless by some very odd chance his body was disposed of in a different state, like Gannon’s. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MOO.
 
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It's also baffling to imagine motive. Speaking for myself, I rarely carry cash -- especially if I'm going out for a workout early in the morning. Only credit cards, and even then just one or two. And my driver's license, and of course my car key. So they couldn't have gone for cash, they didn't keep the car, there are no indications that he was targeted out of a personal vendetta.
 
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It's also baffling to imagine motive. Speaking for myself, I rarely carry cash -- especially if I'm going out for a workout early in the morning. Only credit cards, and even then just one or two. And my driver's license, and of course my car key. So they couldn't have gone for cash, they didn't keep the car, there are no indications that he was targeted out of a personal vendetta.


I agree. What was the motive? if it wasn't a random carjacking or robbery, what was it? Why would anyone want to make Alan disappear? As many have stated, if it was random crime of opportunity I feel that they would have most likely found him by now. Or at least there would be CCTV footage that shows SOMETHING!!! If it was a targeted crime, why??? WHO?
 
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