The interview: in my opinion, I am concerned that the husband said he was so terrified at 6:15, 6:30 then 6:45, when Alan did not return home. I never heard that he was calling him and texting him. I only heard he was looking for Jon Do's in hospitals and driving around looking for him. Also, I noticed he was reading his plea from his cellphone or notes. These responses were very unusual to me. I have so many questions, ugh.
Found Deceased TX - Alan White, 55, seen leaving LA Fitness, Dallas, 22 Oct 2020
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I understand what you mean. From the beginning I’ve felt like the response to Alan not returning home is set in the old days before cell phones or something. Jumping in the car and driving around searching within minutes of someone not returning home just feels like the 80’s. Call? Text? Life 360? Location services? IDK, everyone’s relationship is different so it might just be the way they are, but I have more than one way of tracking each person in my family and vice versa haha. I feel you’d have to make a big effort these days to not be trackable to loved ones—good or bad, that’s just the case.
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I think they possibly reported it fast yes, and family and friends were sharing. But there was no msm about it for 4 days that I can find. I don’t know if a random carjacker would have known it was reported early? But yet, I would expect all carjackers expect reports.
Personally, I think all cars lock automatically after hitting a certain speed nowadays.
And I’m with you, why no Alan. There was no reason that we know of for him to have been taken.
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I wondered about the early reaction as well. It made me think possibly there was some texting saying “I’m on my way” or such. If that had happened, and no Alan, I’d react similar. I wonder when friends and family were contacted to see if they had heard from Alan?
I’ve thought about my own “trackability” after reading some of these cases. I’m not trackable and I don’t want others to track me unless it’s my hubby. 18 years is a long time to be together and not know passwords to Apple ID and such. Not unheard of, but maybe insight into the relationship or personality.
What I keep thinking about from the interview is his mom talking. Oh she broke my heart. So much love for her son. Last night I felt like maybe her statements about someone having him were simply her clinging to hope. Today, I’m wondering if they may know a little more than we do. I wanted to reach out and hug her myself.
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He was holding a mask, that was not a cellphone or notes. Just fidgeting with a mask.
For those of us who don't use FB, could we get a synopsis, please? Is there anything new in it?
The WFAA interview on their website is clearly edited so he may have said something like I couldn't reach him on his phone and that was edited out. I can't read too much into it without hearing the complete interview.
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Sorry, nothing new. Same story. I post Facebook links too because sometimes comments are interesting.
This reminds me of the case of the recent high school grad whose mother and boyfriend tracked her phone and showed up at her car within about 20 minutes of her being late to arrive home (Maddie Bell?). Turns out she had done a runner. Apparently all that smothering led to her finally having had enough and needing to get away.
Alan and his husband are are older and more experienced with life, but if my husband started getting apoplectic when I was 20 minutes late getting home, it would get very old, very fast. I just think that most indications (particularly if that car is “clean”) are for a voluntary disappearance. I hope so, anyway.
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Cannot quite express how and why, but i also got an "anxious vibe" emanating from AW in the gas station video.
Did he see something or someone suspicious or threatening in the near distance? imo.
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The husbands response to jumping in the car and searching for him gives me a feeling that he was hoping to maybe catch him doing something. I don't know why and it's pure speculation, but I would call, text, etc. my husband before getting in my car and driving UNLESS, I had reason to believe he may be up to no good and I wanted proof.
It was the family that became concerned and attempted to raise the alarm almost immediately. But it was four days before there was anything at all in the media about Alan being missing. Plenty of time to unload a hot car.
I have a different thought about AW's husband panicking so quickly.
I am one of those people too. My partner and I stay in contact throughout the day. Our "thing" from the very beginning of our relationship 4 years ago was texting each other when we got somewhere safe and when we were returning. If I expected him home at 6:15 and that time came and passed and then another 30 minutes passed with no contact, I would be very worried. It would be from a place of care and concern and maybe a bit of anxiety. In times like that (I'm not proud of it) I would go from Zero to 60 in a very short period of time, thinking the absolute worst. Same goes with my children. I don't want to be like that, but it's my biggest fear - losing someone I love and care for so deeply.
Just a different perspective. So, for me, it's not all that odd because I can relate.
I am one of those people too. My partner and I stay in contact throughout the day. Our "thing" from the very beginning of our relationship 4 years ago was texting each other when we got somewhere safe and when we were returning. If I expected him home at 6:15 and that time came and passed and then another 30 minutes passed with no contact, I would be very worried. It would be from a place of care and concern and maybe a bit of anxiety. In times like that (I'm not proud of it) I would go from Zero to 60 in a very short period of time, thinking the absolute worst. Same goes with my children. I don't want to be like that, but it's my biggest fear - losing someone I love and care for so deeply.
Just a different perspective. So, for me, it's not all that odd because I can relate.
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It does seem rather odd to get that worked up so quickly & then head out looking when he hadn't even been gone that long.
I do have to wonder if AW didn't disappear himself. Entirely speculation.
I do have to wonder if AW didn't disappear himself. Entirely speculation.
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One thing we haven’t talked about in regards to the gas station video is the timing.
The video starts with him pumping gas at 5:47:05, he’s finished pumping at 5:47:11. He has his hand on the gas pump the whole time. This seems odd to me. I never hold the whole time, only at beginning and end. He looks back once at the (what do you call it? ) pump stand reader? He likely got gas for longer than that but it isn’t shown for some reason. How long does it take to fill a car you think? 3-4 minutes maybe? If so, he had to have arrived at 5:43 to make that happen? If he paid with card not a lot of extra time needed, but if he prepaid even more extra time needed. He left the gym at 5:38. Drive time to this racetrac is 8 minutes. Did the pump he was at in video not work and he had to move pumps? Could that be why the reports keep saying he was last seen leaving there around 6? When did he walk around for 15 seconds? https://goo.gl/maps/8mqjv1vpjzZQGY639
The video starts with him pumping gas at 5:47:05, he’s finished pumping at 5:47:11. He has his hand on the gas pump the whole time. This seems odd to me. I never hold the whole time, only at beginning and end. He looks back once at the (what do you call it? ) pump stand reader? He likely got gas for longer than that but it isn’t shown for some reason. How long does it take to fill a car you think? 3-4 minutes maybe? If so, he had to have arrived at 5:43 to make that happen? If he paid with card not a lot of extra time needed, but if he prepaid even more extra time needed. He left the gym at 5:38. Drive time to this racetrac is 8 minutes. Did the pump he was at in video not work and he had to move pumps? Could that be why the reports keep saying he was last seen leaving there around 6? When did he walk around for 15 seconds? https://goo.gl/maps/8mqjv1vpjzZQGY639
We had a 2015 Chevy Silverado that at some stations because of the design of the pump and the gas tank set up, we had to hold the entire time or it would click off. I’ve encountered some stations still where it won’t stay on with the switches and you have to stand there which is a pain. Usually at those I only put a few gallons in to get by and then I’ll fill up elsewhere on another day.
Many gas pumps require you to hold the handle the whole time. It seems to be more common in some areas than others.
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There is also a history of random acts of violence towards gay men in Dallas that might create a different mindset for his husband. One instance was actually at the Target across the street from his gym in 2017. It’s been on and off the last several years but I haven’t seen much in the news since COVID.
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