GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #13

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  • #361
I'm just checking in tonight finally.

whats going on?
Seems like I need to read backwards to find out!

Not much. Several pages of a debate on something to do with sexual orientation and paedophilia. Was it? I don't even know what that was. Turned out we were all pretty much saying the same thing anyway.
 
  • #362
Situational child molesters

a. Don’t have a true sexual interest in children

b. Will experiment with children when stress is introduced into life

i. Seen as victim of circumstance

c. Has the fewest number of victims

d. Will not limit victims to just children but will also prey upon the elderly, sick, or mentally impaired

BBM: This is strikes me as being TH. Sick mind, opportunistic and zero impulse control.
 
  • #363
Morally indiscriminate and on chart 2, sadistic.
 
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I think TH is different. He is selling himself to men to get money for drugs, it appears.

He had two different girlfriends that we know of.

He appears to be into unusual stimulation such as with a hose and he does not mind showing the pics.

He does crimes and reveals that he did them.

Weird


bbm: Hmmm. I wonder if the hose thing was indeed for his own personal pleasure or if he might have been fulfilling a "request" -- sort of an advertisement. (Or both?)
 
  • #366
How do I talk to a mod?
 
  • #367
Well I am off to bed. Goodnight folks.

I must bleach my eyeballs first.

Speaking of bleaching eyeballs......I tried to follow the trail of crumbs that lead back to last nights discussion. I didn't find the exact ad, but did see a lot of other freaky stuff.

These types of things give me the heebie-geebies. There were MANY explicit requests for role playing situations, such as Father/Daughter, Mother /Son, Father/Son, Brother/Sister.

IMO, these adults were once poor little children who lived in incestuous families, rife with sexual abuse. Even if they realize (on many levels that it is wrong/damaging), they are now out looking for a sex partner who will "pretend he's the son" .
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IMO, these ads placers are attempting to reenact what they, themselves experienced in the past - even if its deviant and even shameful to them.

I guess I feel if someone is "weird/fetish/deviant", there is a HIGH PROBABILITY that they are being influenced (sexually) by something they did, or was done to them over a period of time.
 
  • #368
Nonono! From the little I have read backwards. ....
imo
any adult human being
who delivers sexual abuse upon a 6 year old child is a monster pedophile.
Any adult human being who murders that child is a heinous murderer.
I couldnt care less if he prostituted himself, ran ads, liked men or women!
This fricken creep raped and murdered a child!!!
A child....
 
  • #369
How do I talk to a mod?

You just scream MOD!

Just kidding. Don't do that.

You can pm them. I think there's mods following if you look at the currently active members online below all the posts. Click on their name to pm.

Or some say, alert your own post where the red triangle is to the right of a post.
 
  • #370
I think TH is different. He is selling himself to men to get money for drugs, it appears.

He had two different girlfriends that we know of.

He appears to be into unusual stimulation such as with a hose and he does not mind showing the pics.

He does crimes and reveals that he did them.

Weird

How does it appear that way? We actually know very little about his life, other then the crime he chose to commit.
 
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I think TH is different. He is selling himself to men to get money for drugs, it appears.

He had two different girlfriends that we know of.

He appears to be into unusual stimulation such as with a hose and he does not mind showing the pics.

He does crimes and reveals that he did them.

Weird

Like he was just grasping for something to fill a need, and perhaps even he couldn't figure out what he wanted.
Paraphilias are recurrent, intense, sexually arousing fantasies, urges, or behaviors that are distressing or disabling and that involve inanimate objects, children or other nonconsenting adults, or suffering or humiliation of oneself or the partner.
Sexual preferences that seem unusual to another person or health care practitioner do not constitute paraphilia simply because they are unusual. The arousal patterns are considered pathologic only when the following apply:

  • They become obligatory for sexual functioning (ie, erection or orgasm cannot occur without the stimulus).
  • They involve inappropriate partners (eg, children, nonconsenting adults).
  • They cause significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
Pedophilia: the sexual attraction to prepubescent or peripubescent children. This is thought to be the most common of paraphilias. The victims are generally 13 years of age and younger (sexually immature). Often the children are known to the person (neighbor, friend's child, relative, their own child). An "Exclusive Type" is only attracted to children while a "Nonexclusive Type" may be attracted to adults as well. Those offending may justify their behavior as mutually beneficial, educational or even provoked by the children themselves. Some people "groom" the children so as to avoid "forcing" them to engage in sexual activities. Others may resort to abducting or taking in foster children although this is not as common."
http://www.psychopathology.wikispaces.com/Paraphilias
"Abstract
The psychiatric literature suggests that paraphiliacs can be expected to participate in only one type of deviant sexual behavior. Using self-reports gathered with assured confidentiality from 561 nonincarcerated paraphiliacs, we discovered that most paraphiliacs have had significant experience with as many as ten different types of deviant sexual behavior without regard, in many cases, to gender, age, and familial relationship of the victim. The relevance of these findings to our understanding of paraphiliacs and their treatment is discussed."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3395701

"General Characteristics of Paraphilias
Paraphilias are found almost exclusively in males. Onset tends to begin during early puberty, reaching full development by the age of 20. They are reported in many cultures and have long been reported or described in history. There is often an overlap of paraphilias, the most common being 2-3 concurrently present although cases of up to 10 have been reported in about 5% of paraphiliacs.

Some of the more common paraphilias are:

  • Pedophilia (children)
  • Exhibitionism (exposing one's genitals)
  • Fetishism (specific objects,eg rubber,pantyhose,etc)
  • Frotteurism (rubbing against strangers)
  • Sexual masochism (pain or humiliation of self), including
    • Hypoxyphilia/Autoerotic Asphyxia
  • Sexual sadism (pain or humiliation of others)
  • Transvestic fetishism (clothing usually worn by the other sex)
  • Voyeurism (peeping)
  • Paraphilia Not Otherwise Specified:
    • Telephone scatologia (obscene phone calls)
    • Necrophilia (corpses)
    • Partialism (exclusive focus on specific parts of the body)
    • Zoophilia (animals)
    • Coprophilia (feces)
    • Klismaphilia (enemas)Urophilia (urine)"
http://www.forensicpsychiatry.ca/paraphilia/overview.htm
 
  • #373
I'd like to point out the fact that, contrary to popular opinion, 80% of those in the study who raped and murdered a child did not meet the criteria for classification as a psychopath.

Interesting. So would that mean that TH had some remorse for what he did? Did he want to be caught or was he just that dumb and extemely nervous? Or both?
 
  • #374
How does it appear that way? We actually know very little about his life, other then the crime he chose to commit.

Different from other killers such as Austin Sigg and Jared Harell.

Any other young killers come to mind?

TH seems the most strange to me
 
  • #375
I'd like to point out the fact that, contrary to popular opinion, 80% of those in the study who raped and murdered a child did not meet the criteria for classification as a psychopath.

Isn't that astounding?
 
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Different from other killers such as Austin Sigg and Jared Harell.

Any other young killers come to mind?

TH seems the most strange to me

I meant, how does it appear he is prostituting himself for drugs? How was that conclusion reached and why?
 
  • #378
He seems to have a thing for condoms and toilet paper.

I don't recall hearing anything about all of these fetishes and multiple sexual issues with offenders such as Austin Sigg or Jared Harrell. They probably had all kinds of things, but we did not know it
I'm not sure about JH, but I'm fairly certain AS falls into the category of a lust murderer.

THE LUST MURDER IS UNIQUE AND IS DISTINGUISHED FROM THE SADISTIC HOMICIDE BY THE INVOLVEMENT OF A MUTILATING ATTACK. BASICALLY TWO TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS COMMIT LUST MURDER--THE ORGANIZED NONSOCIAL AND THE DISORGANIZED ASOCIAL PERSONALITY. THE ORGANIZED NONSOCIAL TYPE FEELS REJECTION BY AND HATRED FOR THE SOCIETY IN WHICH HE LIVES. HIS HOSTILITY IS MANIFESTED OVERTLY AND THE LUST MURDER IS ITS FINAL EXPRESSION.

THE DISORGANIZED ASOCIAL TYPE ALSO FEELS HATRED FOR HIS WORLD, BUT IS WITHDRAWN, INTERNALIZED, UNTIL HE ACTS OUT HIS FANTASY IN THE MURDER. CERTAIN FACTORS CAN INDICATE THE PERSONALITY TYPE INVOLVED IN A LUST MURDER--LOCATION OF THE BODY, EVIDENCE OF TORTURE OR MUTILATION PRIOR TO DEATH, SMEARING OF THE VICTIM'S BLOOD, EVIDENCE OF RAPE, AND THE AVAILABILITY OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE AT THE MURDER SCENE. THE CRIME IS PREMEDITATED, YET IT IS A CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY IN WHICH THE VICTIM IS NOT USUALLY KNOWN TO THE MURDERER. THE USE OF PSYCHOLOGCAL PROFILING IN SUCH CRIMES MAY BE OF ASSISTANCE IN DETERMINING THE PERSONALITY TYPE INVOLVED BUT MUST NOT ALTER OR REPLACE PRESCRIBED INVESTIGATIVE MEASURES. FOOTNOTES ARE GIVEN
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https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=68689
"Lust murders are homicides in which the offender stabs, cuts, pierces or mutilates the sexual regions or organs of the victim's body. The sexual mutilation of the victim may include evisceration, piquerism...).

It also includes activities such as "posing" and "propping" of the body...and necrophilia."

Lust Murders are predicated on the obsessive fantasies of the offender. It is not enough for these type killers just to kill; they have a compulsive need to act out their fantasies with their victims and their victim's bodies. This would be the "Signature" component of the crime. (See Law and Order The Signature Aspect in Criminal Profiling. November, 1995.)

A psychological perspective of the development and effects of deviant fantasies and behaviors can be found in the psychosexual disorders, specifically Sexual Sadism and other Paraphilias as they are listed in The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th. ed. (DSM-IV).
http://www.practicalhomicide.com/Research/lustmurder.htm
 
  • #379
Thanks for some good links, bessie.

I have been reading a good bit (real books, not online, LOL) about profiling lately, Roy Hazelwood stuff most recently. There's so much to absorb about profiling, lots of different approaches -- anything that helps clarify some of the fuzzy spots is appreciated!

Of course, I know, it will never be "all clear" to anybody, considering the topic.
 
  • #380
I have read and reread trying to grasp how someone could do this crime and walk around at the memorial taunting the memory of his victim... My mind can't get ahold of the horrible ending to this beautiful little girls life... In saying that my opinion on TH is.... He was a sick boy/man and was born evil there's no other explanation... My opinion about the crime is he didn't plan it he just did what his sick and twisted mind thought at the spur of the moment... I believe he knew he was free to do whatever he pleased in his home with no chance of anyone walking in on his sadistic crime because his mother had a job where she was gone for long hours and his friends were far and few between not many who would just come over to hang out on a whim... He seems to have grown up with no consequences to any of his behavior which gave him the feeling he was untouchable and could get a way with anything he wanted to do... If we could sit his ex girlfriends down they would probably tell us he was shy in the sexual area or was not the aggressive one the only way he could get truly satisfied is to do things to himself or with "strangers" that was painful and off the wall kinky... I am concerned that during his life he has come into contact during travels, visits with friends and family, or random lives and has hurt them purposely but not bad enough to injure them permanently but scare them...all younger of course in my opinion.
In my opinion he set his sight on this family a long time ago for some reason they stood out to him and his focus on them was to get a reaction as much as he could for entertainment with the less tragic actions then bam the opportunity came up and I feel he would of grabbed any child or any life he could get control over at that moment to fulfill the need for sexual sadistic pleasure... In my mind he is truly evil... He enjoyed every second of hurting and killing another human being and would of done it again if he hadn't been caught... What LE has is way beyond what we have a glimpse of in my opinion and they know exactly how evil he really is... In my opinion the tarp was laid out to try to cover what area he was committing the horrible acts to cut down on any evidence in his own home from being in plain sight from his mother... He was probably wearing the belt and used what he had right on hand to add to his actions that day... I also think in my opinion he transported the crime scene (I just can't get myself to say fully what the "package" was he carried that day) by either "borrowing" a vehicle or finding a ride without the other person knowing exactly what was going on... I do not think there is a knowing accomplice to the crime he committed but if there is then LE knows who this would be by now... I also think in my opinion if anyone can get the truth from him it will be someone in his life who he has a "bond"or feels a unique closeness with ... I would be looking at people in his life who he had a tendency to be protective over and take that person to talk to him(well watch him write) he knows the evil that lurks in this world because he walks among the worst of them and in my opinion when you see these murderers you always see a person in there life that knew the killer personally but felt they were misunderstood by everyone else and had a sense of being treated differently by him... He favored someone in my opinion and that person knows something important...
Sorry if I hit on anything anyone else has mentioned :/ ... I just get frustrated more and more when I read the forum because such a tragic ending to a beautiful carefree life...it just makes no sense to me... Boo!!! :(
 
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