GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #13

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Mario McNeill, raped and murdered 5 year old Shaniya Davis.
To my knowledge he was not a pedophile. Just a sick twisted disgusting man that didn't care that she was a child.
 
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This discussion is interesting .

I did a research paper years ago and I cannot remember much about it. But there are different kinds of pedophiles. There are the kind that only abuse their own children because they think it is a sin to go outside of the family. That one really stuck with me because it is so crazy.

I think there are the ones that go for anything easy, male or female. Then there are the age preferences.

This paper was years ago so I bet there is lots more info.

The research I did showed that fewer boys were molested, but it was thought because fewer were reported because of the fear of a homosexual label.

There was not as much molestation in the Southern states, but it was felt because there were not good procedures in place for reporting.

That is all I can remember. The point is that all pedophiles are not alike.

I think TH is in a class by himself. i hope anyway.
 
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Actually someone asked since he had sex with men, wouldn't that mean he would prefer boys. I seemed (not assuming, they can chime in and totally correct me) they were associating gender, rather then deviancy. It's a REALLY slippery slope when that happens, and I've seen plenty of people link homosexuality and pedophilia. I was reacting to the statement, out of fear it was going down that road. That's all.

Yep. Agree, that's what I was responding too.
 
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This discussion is interesting .

I did a research paper years ago and I cannot remember much about it. But there are different kinds of pedophiles. There are the kind that only abuse their own children because they think it is a sin to go outside of the family. That one really stuck with me because it is so crazy.

I think there are the ones that go for anything easy, male or female. Then there are the age preferences.

This paper was years ago so I bet there is lots more info.

The research I did showed that fewer boys were molested, but it was thought because fewer were reported because of the fear of a homosexual label.

There was not as much molestation in the Southern states, but it was felt because there were not good procedures in place for reporting.

That is all I can remember. The point is that all pedophiles are not alike.

I think TH is in a class by himself. i hope anyway.

Sadly, he isn't in a class by himself. Preying on children and murdering them is nothing new. Only thing that stands out about this one for me...is his age and where she was left,
 
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I don't believe TH had sex with men at all. I think he lied to explain the hose photo and to lead LE to think he was not sexually interested in females (or children in general). JMO

I agree, I think a teenager who would be into having sex with men wouldn't be into little girls. I would think he would go for young boys first over targeting Alanna.
emphasis mine.

That is a big problem for me. Don't men who like sex with men generally only like men? Only like boys?

Why did the perp choose a littl girl?

I took this to mean "don't they only like males?" Sometimes people use "boys" to mean males. We look at a cat and ask, "is it a boy or a girl?" We don't mean that it's a child. I could be wrong.

Not necessarily. Even discounting pedophiles and rapists and their sick motivations, there is such a thing as bisexuality. And aren't there, um, opportunistic predators who will just seize whomever is available?
. I think LDhummingbird was using "bisexual" to mean a predator who does not prefer one gender over the other. I don't think she was making global statements about bisexuals. I think she was looking for a vocabulary word to describe a person who preys opportunistically on either sex. It may not have been the best choice of words, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on having a hard time expressing the concept clearly. "A predator who preys opportunistically without regard to gender or age."

And I think it was just misunderstood. I could be wrong Moo moo. I just hate to see it get out of hand, when it's a matter of semantics, and I don't think anyone is calling homosexuals and bisexuals pedophiles. I don't think anyone meant to do that, and I feel like the harder we try to explain what we mean, the more misunderstood we are getting. I think we all are actually agreeing here. :cow: moo moo :cow:
 
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Well then, this has been quite a conversation. I'm unsure how to contribute.
 
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emphasis mine.



I took this to mean "don't they only like males?" Sometimes people use "boys" to mean males. We look at a cat and ask, "is it a boy or a girl?" We don't mean that it's a child. I could be wrong.

. I think LDhummingbird was using "bisexual" to mean a predator who does not prefer one gender over the other. I don't think she was making global statements about bisexuals. I think she was looking for a vocabulary word to describe a person who preys opportunistically on either sex. It may not have been the best choice of words, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on having a hard time expressing the concept clearly. "A predator who preys opportunistically without regard to gender or age."

And I think it was just misunderstood. I could be wrong Moo moo. I just hate to see it get out of hand, when it's a matter of semantics, and I don't think anyone is calling homosexuals and bisexuals pedophiles. I don't think anyone meant to do that, and I feel like the harder we try to explain what we mean, the more misunderstood we are getting. I think we all are actually agreeing here. :cow: moo moo :cow:

RBBM
What Greenpalm said. For the record, I myself am bisexual, so I am DEFINITELY not equating non-straight people with pedophiles. I just phrased what I was trying to say very poorly. That's why I used the phrase "opportunistic predator".
 
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This discussion is interesting .

I did a research paper years ago and I cannot remember much about it. But there are different kinds of pedophiles. There are the kind that only abuse their own children because they think it is a sin to go outside of the family. That one really stuck with me because it is so crazy.

I think there are the ones that go for anything easy, male or female. Then there are the age preferences.

This paper was years ago so I bet there is lots more info.

The research I did showed that fewer boys were molested, but it was thought because fewer were reported because of the fear of a homosexual label.

There was not as much molestation in the Southern states, but it was felt because there were not good procedures in place for reporting.

That is all I can remember. The point is that all pedophiles are not alike.

I think TH is in a class by himself. i hope anyway.

I once did a paper and argued from a evolutionary standpoint it was biologically normal for males to be sexually attracted to females 14-17.

...eye roll...

In my defense.. I was young.
 
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RBBM
What Greenpalm said. For the record, I myself am bisexual, so I am DEFINITELY not equating non-straight people with pedophiles. I just phrased what I was trying to say very poorly. That's why I used the phrase "opportunistic predator".

I agree. Opportunistic.
 
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I think TH is different. He is selling himself to men to get money for drugs, it appears.

He had two different girlfriends that we know of.

He appears to be into unusual stimulation such as with a hose and he does not mind showing the pics.

He does crimes and reveals that he did them.

Weird
 
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I think TH is different. He is selling himself to men to get money for drugs, it appears.

He had two different girlfriends that we know of.

He appears to be into unusual stimulation such as with a hose and he does not mind showing the pics.

He does crimes and reveals that he did them.

Weird
Like he was just grasping for something to fill a need, and perhaps even he couldn't figure out what he wanted.
 
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Well I am off to bed. Goodnight folks.

I must bleach my eyeballs first.
 
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So where does TH fit in here?

He is most closely on the sadistic molester, on the chart, except that he nominally knew his victim.

From the chart Linda posted: Never assume sex of offender based on sex of victim

Situational. Which one of those?
 
  • #358
Situational. Which one of those?

I'll say morally indiscriminate. But we'll never know what he would have gone on to do.
 
  • #359
I'm just checking in tonight finally.

whats going on?
Seems like I need to read backwards to find out!
 
  • #360
Good link Linda7NJ.

A. Three important factors to look at when profiling molesters:

1. Victimization ritual

2. Method of selection

3. Abducting process



Other helpful profiling leads:



v Geographical stability of the molester

v Police records

v Fact that abused children will sometimes abuse as well

v Never assume sex of offender based on sex of victim

http://www1.csbsju.edu/uspp/CrimPsych/CPSG-6.htm
 
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