GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #5

[IBsleuthin]

I'm thinking down another path.

I don't think the perp was an RSO or tying her for sexual fun.

I think the perp is a first timer and tied her because she kicked, bit, and scratched.

It is not easy to restrain a kicking biting 6 year old, trust me. My friend's 3 year old had a tantrum in the street one day and it took two of us to load her into the car and even then I copped a kick in my very pregnant stomach and the little witch laid on the back luggage rack and wailed all the way home, unrestrained. We figured if we got pulled over for illegally driving with a screaming kid in the luggage rack, we would invite the policeman to remove her himself.

Back to topic - I believe an experienced RSO would have planned better, kept her longer, hidden her body so it was perhaps never found. He obviously had a vehicle so travel was no problem.

I strongly feel that she was left by mistake. He was in such a goddam hurry to get out of there that he didn't realise he'd dropped her until he'd got where he was going, and then it was too late to return.

He must be a nervous wreck right now.

:moo:

The difference being in my opinion is that you are trying to load a 3 year old of whom you CARE FOR and don't wish to harm.


The type of sexual sadist involved in these types of crimes does NOT CARE if he hurts the child. You see it's all about the fantasy. He/she already knows the child is going to die.

When restraining the child it's often times part of that sadistic realm.


That's why I say I pray every day and thank God that I don't think like someone who does this because they actually 'get off' on harm and terror and pain.

They will do whatever it takes to restrain that child to get to the part of the fantasy that satisfies them. Then, once it's over they kill the child. There is no further need for them and the discard them like a piece of trash. THESE ARE SICK PEOPLE.

We are also assuming she was biting and kicking.

Sometimes the child can be threatened or hit very hard to scare them into submission. She may not have made a sound.

As far as the length of time, that's dependent on the person. Sometimes the build up to the crime is so great and the anticipation so enormous that it's over and done with before much time goes by.

This is why the statistics for rescue are so dismal after about 48 hrs.

 

[skibaboo]

One last thought, pool water is distinct from lake water, tap water, river water ect...and can be tested with a simple ph.

That coroner MUST already know if she was drowned and HOPEFULLY tested the type of water.


Someone wrote that LE took samples from the parent's swimming pool?

This wouldn't take long to figure out if she drowned in the pool.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Until later, have a great day.



My hope is that one day we will all be writing about new scientific ways to PREVENT this from happening to another child rather than sitting her after the fact.

Re - bit BBM

From the SW

66. Water from hot tub

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/SaginawSearchWarrant.pdf

 

[wfgodot]

Alanna’s Mother ‘She picked me to be her momma’. (saginaw-texas.com)

RICHLAND HILLS — A grieving mother stood before a packed church Thursday and sang “You are my sunshine” – a final tribute to her 6-year-old daughter, whose body was found a week earlier wrapped in a tarp.
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much more at the Saginaw News link above

 

[fred&edna]

The scanner thread for this case tells us when she was last seen and when she was reported missing... which seems like a very long time for a child Alanna's age. I've been wondering if, once the perp is apprehended, could the parents (even though they have suffered a horrendous loss) be charged with neglect (or something of that nature)?

 

[KMouse]

I'm going to add you to my list of 'MUST HIRE'.

It really does seem like this would be 101 but sadly it's not. It makes me mad. Especially when the victim is later found in the dump. :stormingmad:

I forgot to add freezers to the list.

 

[ArianeEmory]

The scanner thread for this case tells us when she was last seen and when she was reported missing... which seems like a very long time for a child Alanna's age. I've been wondering if, once the perp is apprehended, could the parents (even though they have suffered a horrendous loss) be charged with neglect (or something of that nature)?

As far as I know, Breeann Rodriguez's parents weren't, and she was three years old and riding a bike around unsupervised when she was snatched by a neighbor.

I suspect, in a situation like this, where it's obvious the parents are loving and there isn't evidence of mistreatment, LE probably figures the child being murdered is punishment enough. I know I do.

 

[Jo in Calif]

Re Walmart Bags being used for suffocation -

ANYTHING that is stuffed down the airway will cause suffocation.

A sock, a ball of paper, a Walmart bag.

Either way, there was NO Walmart bag reported anywhere near Alanna, that we know of. If it was stuffed down her throat only LE would know about it.

Were the Walmart bags on the SW taken from the vehicles? In which case, as disposable bags are now illegal here, I have an assortment of bags in my car, in the back seat, in the trunk. It's easier to forget them this way .

If the Walmart bags were taken from the car and recorded as possible evidence - big deal.

If "Walmart Bag" was on the search warrant it means they are looking for bags out of the same batch.

A fine difference but an important one.

There was a Wallmart bag taken from the Ford Taurus.
From the house #13 WM plastic bags, #21 WM bag with receipt 6/8/13 & 6/13/13, #29 WM bags, #59 WM bags of various types, #61 WM bags, #65 2 plastic WM bags.

Also noted the time of the SW 1:55 AM July 2nd. That was pretty darned fast from the time she was reported missing IMO.

 

[willowfae]

Does anyone know if they did an open or closed casket at the funeral? That could give an indication towards cause of death.

 

[Jo in Calif]

And yes, WM plastic bags and receipts were listed in the SW.
Sounds like there might have been a WM plastic bag either on her head or with her.
IMO on her head.

 

[gitana1]

As far as I know, Breeann Rodriguez's parents weren't, and she was three years old and riding a bike around unsupervised when she was snatched by a neighbor.

I suspect, in a situation like this, where it's obvious the parents are loving and there isn't evidence of mistreatment, LE probably figures the child being murdered is punishment enough. I know I do.

Ditto. And I think it depends on the circumstances. We websleuthers have a certain view of things but in reality, stranger abductions of children allowed to play outside unattended are still less common than lightening strikes. That's why the decision to allow a child to play around outside the home is a parenting decision not a criminal one.

 

[fhc]

Does anyone know if they did an open or closed casket at the funeral? That could give an indication towards cause of death.

:Welcome1: Willowfae

 

[human]

Ditto. And I think it depends on the circumstances. We websleuthers have a certain view of things but in reality, stranger abductions of children allowed to play outside unattended are still less common than lightening strikes. That's why the decision to allow a child to play around outside the home is a parenting decision not a criminal one.

I do think it would be good if parents took parenting classes so they can learn about child development and what is appropriate at what age.

Of course, there is a range, but it seems some people are clueless. They feel if their child can read, s/he must be genius and can handle any situation.

I think in cases like this, hopefully the family will take the children to long term counseling. The effects are going to be deep and long lasting.

 

[ArianeEmory]

I also believe, JMO, that the parents thought she was at a neighborhood friend's house (several were mentioned early on, both one her old age and an older girl who was quoted in MSM). The reporting Dad originally thought she was watching cartoons at another house. This info has tended not to get repeated in later articles and LE comments--it seems clear to me that LE does not want the specifics of where she was, who she saw, and where she was "supposed" to be made public.

 

[bessie]

No link, no post. In other words, if the link is off limits, that means the entire discussion is off limits.

:tyou:

 

[SuperTmo]

Sorry!

 

[lunchbox]

Sorry. I didn't know YouTube links were off limits. Won't post it again.

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[human]

So something we can talk about, the piece of plastic on the road, although it may not be related.

Size?

With so little info, it is hard to discuss much since a lot is off limits as well.

Austin Sigg did his deed in a simlar neighborhood, but the houses seemed further apart.

We never did hear how he got Jessica into the car , did we?

He sure took a chance, but it worked for him. Here is seems more difficult. I see the oerp as one who lives in the neighborhood,

 

[willowfae]

:Welcome1: Willowfae

Thanks! I'm near Saginaw and have met one of the Dads (Karl) but didn't attend the funeral. I have been trying to figure out how to ask someone who went about the casket situation but don't want to seem like a creep.

 

[ArianeEmory]

So something we can talk about, the piece of plastic on the road, although it may not be related.

Size?

With so little info, it is hard to discuss much since a lot is off limits as well.

Austin Sigg did his deed in a simlar neighborhood, but the houses seemed further apart.

We never did hear how he got Jessica into the car , did we?

He sure took a chance, but it worked for him. Here is seems more difficult. I see the oerp as one who lives in the neighborhood,

I'm pretty sure AS claimed he just grabbed and bound her. I don't think there was luring, if that's what you mean.

He has also been charged with an attack on a jogger. He tried to subdue her, but she fought and got away. It was speculated in the threads at the time (waaay before the link to the jogger was actually known to be legit) that the perp was frustrated by failures to attempt to snatch an adult, and thus went after a smaller target. WS called that one right on the money.

 

[wfgodot]

Though there are no pictures I've found from the service per se, there are pictures of the casket either before or after the fact; it has a large quilt spread out atop it, draping the sides. I assume it was a closed casket service.