GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

[Considering]

Is this the Dr. Amy Fritz on the stand? From Cedar Creek Tree Communications?
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Yes it is. I was just going to post it. Lol

 

[Megnut]

The defense must have had him evaluated and did not get a diagnosis of autism. If they had that diagnosis, it would have been front and center of this dog and pony show. Frankly, it’s irrelevant in my mind. Autism does not cause someone to kidnap, assault and murder a 7 year old.

The Defense attorney in the BryanKohberger case was trying to lodge an exemption to the DP due to ASD, also sans an official diagnosis iirc, despite the fact that ASP is not a recognized exemption.

I see the same strategy here. They're going off an unsubstantiated diagnosis that showed up in TH's grade school records, probably coded in order to grant him maximum access to early intervention programs.

This specialist said she didn't evaluate him for ASD because reasons and also didn't evaluate him for mental illness.

IMO the Defense doesn't want him evaluated for ASD because if they lose the illusion of that diagnosis, they lose their defense. Same with mental health. No doubt TH has all kinds of deficits but he's not low IQ, he's not severely mentally ill, psychotic, schizophrenic, etc.

IMO what he is is a dangerous predator, sexually motivated by power and violence. Sadistic. They should test him for that. They wouldn't though because IMO it would confirm that he is energized by domination and violence, inextricably tied to sexual sadism.

And that can't be fixed, short of chemical castration and a lobotomy.

TH isn't part of any exempted class. In fact, he is exactly what the DP is for.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Agreed. The premeditation is a key element here. Often, people with neurodiverent disability may respond differently to a situation. Or do something on impulse.

But, when the element of premeditation is added here, that is the differentiation. Hmm, no one seems to explain this clinically. Imagine that. All of these "doctors" don't understand the DSM criteria for diagnosis?

They can't seem to find good tests for that.

Mmm...OK

 

[Ontario Mom]

I've decided I will pass on this witness. Someone let me know when she is done, I've already heard enough.

I'll never be able to hear that song again without thinking of what this vile monster did to that sweet child.

 

[su5ie]

FedEx driver had totally nonchalant response after he murdered little Athena Strand, his own pastor reveals at death penalty trial

Killer FedEx driver’s pastor told the jury in his murder trial how he did not say anything about his victim, 7-year-old Athena Strand, while the pair prayed together.

nypost.com

 

[TMich6811]

It’s almost like the defense is trying to technically give a defense while also working for a case for the state

 

[RaspberryMama]

I'll never be able to hear that song again without thinking of what this vile monster did to that sweet child.

I get sick to my stomach just hearing the first few notes. I will never willingly listen to it ever again.

 

[BUF]

Is this the Dr. Amy Fritz on the stand? From Cedar Creek Tree Communications?
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Wonder if she met with TH in person or a telehealth interview?

Cedar Tree Communication Therapy | About Amy Fritz-Ocock

Learn about Amy Fritz-Ocock, Ph.D., CCC-SLP, a speech-language pathologist in Winter Garden, FL working with individuals with ASD.

cedartreeslp.com

 

[mickey2942]

Wonder if she met with TH in person or a telehealth interview?

Cedar Tree Communication Therapy | About Amy Fritz-Ocock

Learn about Amy Fritz-Ocock, Ph.D., CCC-SLP, a speech-language pathologist in Winter Garden, FL working with individuals with ASD.

cedartreeslp.com

Yet another person not clinically qualified to give diagnosis of Autism.

https://www.research.chop.edu/car-autism-roadmap/who-is-able-to-diagnose-autism-spectrum-disorder

 

[Megnut]

IMO even if they could produce an actual diagnosis, it won't help when the jurors apply the law.

Autism is not an exempted class in TX iiuc.

 

[Megnut]

What is she a doctor of?

 

[Considering]

What is she a doctor of?

She has an EdD in Special Education with an Emphasis Area in Speech-Language Pathology. It’s in her CV (link located at the bottom of the page).

Terms of Service - Cedar Tree SLP

cedartreeslp.com

 

[Megnut]

How convenient, she works with the majority of her "clients" virtually. "In their home environments."

Did anyone bother to ask this monster if he got a sexual thrill from what he did?

I suggest the his DNA where it had no business being suggests that he did.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

She has an EdD in Special Education with an Emphasis Area in Speech-Language Pathology

Terms of Service - Cedar Tree SLP

cedartreeslp.com

A fine profession but not a medical doctor.

Seriously the Defense wants the jury to deliberate against the DP for a diagnosis they couldn't even verify.

I need the State to bring in a rebuttal witness to talk about deviant sexual.sadism.

His pleasure center is why TH is where he is.

 

[Megnut]

Another Defense witness who was given fractional data to work with.

 

[BUF]

She has an EdD in Special Education with an Emphasis Area in Speech-Language Pathology. It’s in her CV (link located at the bottom of the page).

Terms of Service - Cedar Tree SLP

cedartreeslp.com

Interesting that she has a link for her CV on her website, but when introduced at court she only wanted to give her resume as it wasn’t written as a CV as she isn’t published.

 

[tlcya]

so did police misinterpret poor Tanner when he told them about his having murdered Athena? how about when he told them about how she was so terrified that she soiled herself as he beat the life out of her? Did they misinterpret that?

I hate that this parade of apologists continues. How many more days will we and the jury have to listen to the poor poor Tanner show?

 

[mickey2942]

One question from State: are you qualified to give a diagnosis of Autism? Yes or no?

 

[tlcya]

I hope the state asks this witness when he was diagnosed with Asperger's and how she knows he was. Has she seen the mystery report by the person (presumably a medical professional rather than a teacher or school counselor) who diagnosed him as such?

 

[Megnut]

I hope the state asks this witness when he was diagnosed with Asperger's and how she knows he was. Has she seen the mystery report by the person (presumably a medical professional rather than a teacher or school counselor) who diagnosed him as such?

Same with FAS. Where's the diagnosis?