GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

[tlcya]

Oh good, his school records including his special education records were provided to her for her analysis.

Anybody want to lay odds on if she ever saw an autism diagnosis outside of those school records?

 

[BUF]

Back to those school records……only thing they have

 

[Megnut]

I suspect Grandma didn't want to label him but wanted all the early interventions.

So she produced the diagnosis, on the mild end, leaving him virtually mainstream with pullout behavior modification.

 

[Megnut]

I guess it's us.

We are misunderstanding.

TH has difficulty with logical story telling and blah blah blah

And that's why Athena is dead.

Gawd.

 

[BUF]

She really likes to do that hair thing

 

[tlcya]

Tanner's "upstairs brain" had trouble processing al the big feelings of rage and resentment in his "downstairs brain." Because autism.

defense Q: What could make someone like him snap?

Fisk's A: There is usually some triggering event. Routine gets changed can be a triggering event, person you love doesn't want to be with you any more.

and there you have it. again we circle back to Fedex made him do it and maybe a little bit his fiancé triggered him too.

 

[Megnut]

Tanner's "upstairs brain" had trouble processing al the big feelings of rage and resentment in his "downstairs brain." Because autism.

defense Q: What could make someone like him snap?

Fisk's A: There is usually some triggering event. Routine gets changed can be a triggering event, person you love doesn't want to be with you any more.

and there you have it. again we circle back to Fedex made him do it and maybe a little bit his fiancé triggered him too.

Except we all know that isn't what upset him about the route change.

 

[Considering]

Can we just put Blurry Beth and Not Blurry Mary in a room with each other and they can listen to each other talk and talk and talk? This is all so irrelevant.

 

[tlcya]

defense hypothetical: someone on spectrum, previously diagnosed as autistic (EXCEPT HE WASN'T), route change at work, familial stressors at home. what if a child saw that person doing a hit of cocaine? So the person assumes child saw them, abducts and murders her, how would theory of mind factor into that scenario and those decisions made.

Theory of mind is about understanding someone else's perception of you. If you kidnap and kill a child because you perceived that that child saw you using cocaine, that shows a deficit of theory of mind.

Defense: is this a big reaction to a little problem?

A: that would fit.

So maybe it is also Athena's fault for maybe seeing him doing coke.

This is infuriating, I have been frustrated during a lot of trials but I never imagined I could be this frustrated with a trial where GUILT has already been admitted.

 

[Megnut]

Did she really say "autistics"?

I thought universally we've been educated to say "person with autism" (or "person on the autism spectrum").

This defense is revolting. Thousands of people have the actual disorders and adverse challenges and don't do what he did.

He had no trouble ordering his victim to remove her shirt, to stop crying or he'd hurt her.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

defense hypothetical: someone on spectrum, previously diagnosed as autistic (EXCEPT HE WASN'T), route change at work, familial stressors at home. what if a child saw that person doing a hit of cocaine? So the person assumes child saw them, abducts and murders her, how would theory of mind factor into that scenario and those decisions made.

Theory of mind is about understanding someone else's perception of you. If you kidnap and kill a child because you perceived that that child saw you using cocaine, that shows a deficit of theory of mind.

Defense: is this a big reaction to a little problem?

A: that would fit.

So maybe it is also Athena's fault for maybe seeing him doing coke.

This is infuriating, I have been frustrated during a lot of trials but I never imagined I could be this frustrated with a trial where GUILT has already been admitted.

Making it painfully obvious that the Defense bought her. Gave her the questions to create an academic answer for.

 

[Megnut]

Was Athena the small problem that TH reacted to in a too big way?

I just can't with this.

 

[Megnut]

This might have a place if TH had hit a child with his truck, then melted down.

That didn't happen.

It was a lie.

I hope the State hits her hard with what TH did.

 

[TMich6811]

Wild

 

[Megnut]

They are wholly side-stepping the hours long crime against Athena, leaving his nasty DNA everywhere.

 

[Megnut]

May I ask a question? Please explain to the jury why TH turned the forward camera off 1.5 hours prior to abducting Athena and covered the inward camera.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Last week, defense witnesses described Horner’s past and present as attorneys argued over whether he would remain a threat if sentenced to prison for life.

The defense is trying to show that Horner would not be a continuing threat to society if he were placed in a controlled environment such as a state prison, and that his life should be spared. Prosecutors are trying to show the opposite: that Horner would remain a threat and should be sentenced to death

Live Blog: Tanner Horner murder trial enters fourth week, defense continues presenting case

Live updates as jurors hear more testimony in the Tanner Horner punishment trial and move toward a life-or-death sentencing decision.

www.nbcdfw.com

 

[tlcya]

Wild

I've never seen anything like this. SMH

 

[BUF]

She just blurted out the full name of a blurry witness!

 

[Megnut]

What he did to Athena was not a mistake! *Angry exclamation point*

It was a secret he wanted to keep.

What he did was not reactive! It was purposeful. Planned, methodical, diabolical.