TX - Austin Metcalf - 17 - fatally stabbed at track meet, 2 April 2025

[Teche]

Risky. IF this is true and IF there are legitimate safety concerns, and you sink all that money in a new home, then if that address gets leaked as well (like the old address) then that place is no longer safe. What then? Sell and move again?? It also makes me doubt all these 'safety and security concerns' because anyone can find out which property you own through the county's Central Appraisal District website I believe... at least if you rent, it's more anonymous.

I am trying hard on this one, but honestly to me it looks as though the parents get a lot of $$$ profit here and do what is right for them (mortgage/rent free living for the rest of their lifetime now) and NOT what is best for their son - how will they pay for the top defense lawyers now? Or do they believe the average joe will keep donating $$$ to their fund raising to pay not only for their new home now, but for the future cost of the defense, the spokespersons etc..? Really strange thing to do imo.

KA would be safer in jail. MOO: The family and the spokesperson will continue to raise funds for the legal team and living expenses because father can’t return to work.

 

[mickey2942]

KA has already been charged. I don't understand why this needs to go to a Grand Jury to decide whether or not KA should be charged?

Texas stabbing suspect Karmelo Anthony released after bond lowered to $250,000

MCKINNEY, Texas — Karmelo Anthony, the 17-year-old accused of fatally stabbing another student at a high school track meet in Frisco earlier this month, was released from jail Monday after

www.flcourier.com

Sounds like his claim of "self defense" is not going to be that easy to prove.

Karmelo Anthony facing an ‘uphill battle’ with self-defense claim, legal expert says

Austin Metcalf’s accused killer could claim self-defense in his upcoming trial, his defense attorney suggests

www.independent.co.uk

 

[al66pine]

Source of Payment for KA's Defense, Legal Services, Expert Witnesses?

Risky. IF this is true and IF there are legitimate safety concerns, and you sink all that money in a new home, then if that address gets leaked as well (like the old address) then that place is no longer safe. What then? Sell and move again?? It also makes me doubt all these 'safety and security concerns' because anyone can find out which property you own through the county's Central Appraisal District website I believe... at least if you rent, it's more anonymous.

I am trying hard on this one, but honestly to me it looks as though the parents get a lot of $$$ profit here and do what is right for them (mortgage/rent free living for the rest of their lifetime now) and NOT what is best for their son - how will they pay for the top defense lawyers now? Or do they believe the average joe will keep donating $$$ to their fund raising to pay not only for their new home now, but for the future cost of the defense, the spokespersons etc..? Really strange thing to do imo.

@Marfe Thx for your post. I bolded part of it.
Who will pay for KA's Defense, Legal Services, Expert Witnesses?
Parents, Crowd Funding, or Court Ordered Public Defender?

IIRC the judge appointed a public defender for KA.
W criminal charges against a minor, whose financial status does the court consider ---
the minor or minor's parents?

If only the minor's, then some parents would feel no obligation to pay.
Could continue crowd funding campaign efforts.
Could continue receiving crowd funding $.
Could use $ from crowd funding $ for whatever purpose(s) specified on crowd funding website.

Personally not speculating about what KA's parents have done or will do.

 

[Trino]

KA has already been charged. I don't understand why this needs to go to a Grand Jury to decide whether or not KA should be charged?

Texas stabbing suspect Karmelo Anthony released after bond lowered to $250,000

MCKINNEY, Texas — Karmelo Anthony, the 17-year-old accused of fatally stabbing another student at a high school track meet in Frisco earlier this month, was released from jail Monday after

www.flcourier.com

Sounds like his claim of "self defense" is not going to be that easy to prove.

Karmelo Anthony facing an ‘uphill battle’ with self-defense claim, legal expert says

Austin Metcalf’s accused killer could claim self-defense in his upcoming trial, his defense attorney suggests

www.independent.co.uk

How could self-defense be used where there are other guys sitting on the bench? There wasn't a fight, nothing except an irate young man who didn't want to be touched when asked to move over.

 

[Trino]

What I was saying is simply, if KA was the captain of the track team, as we've all been told he was according all MSM, and he was also supposed to be in class that day at his own school, but instead was skipping school (according to LE sources that were posted yesterday) then we've got quite a contradiction.

If KA was sick or injured then sure, his team could have still participated if they were already scheduled to. If his team was scheduled to be at that meet, he would have been excused from class and there'd be no reason for anyone to say he was skipping school. It'd be like saying yeah, the baseball team has a tourney but the pitcher has history class that day and can't go. School sports teams don't work like that. If the team is supposed to be there, all members are excused from classes.

So either... him and his team were all supposed to be there and the claim of him skipping school that day is not accurate - or - him and/or his team were not supposed to be there, he skipped school as the report says, and showed up anyway & murdered Austin Metcalf.

And if he was indeed supposed to be in class but his team was scheduled to be there anyway, why is the captain of the team not excused to be at the meet? Suspended from the team for a time due to having a knife on school grounds previously? Possibly?

Really I'm just thinking out loud here. The info from yesterday saying he ditched school that day really throws a fat monkey wrench into the whole sequence of events.

Were the other kids on the track team in school that day? Was the track meet an all day affair, or were kids excused at a certain time to leave school and attend?

 

[Ontario Mom]

Were the other kids on the track team in school that day? Was the track meet an all day affair, or were kids excused at a certain time to leave school and attend?

I don't think we have a clear answer on any of those questions yet.

 

[Cryptic]

I can't imagine a student could get a suspension for bringing a lethal weapon to school and still be permitted to participate in athletics.

My imagination might be more uhmm..... "vivid", but it does take me in other directions.

At one time our Football team had two students with gun shot wounds on it. Granted both shooting incidents (drugs and err..... "established group conflict") occurred off campus. The behavior of the students on campus, however, was less than sterling.

Our principal and athletic director have a "In general, better for at risk youth types to be on a team" line of thought.

Nothing starry eyed. Just pragmatism that an aggressive and bored youth with no direction is usually more problematic than the same youth on a sports team. Inherent safety risks are still banned from athletics. But the definition of "inherent safety risk" reflects the over all environment at our school.

In the end, I can see a scenario of: Brings knife to school- nobody got hurt. Gets expelled (transferred to alterative school) for a semester. Gets returned to the regular school. Promises never to do it again. Determined not to be an inherent risk. Is allowed back on the teams out of pragmatism.

 

[Cryptic]

Were the other kids on the track team in school that day? Was the track meet an all day affair, or were kids excused at a certain time to leave school and attend?

Due to the large number of events that must be held, track meets are for the entire day- and into the evening. Its too logistically complicated to bring kids back and forth at different times.

Logistical impracticalities aside, a very significant number of the student participants, even the studious ones, view the meets as their reward and a break from school. They would not be interested in returning.

 

[Miss Poovy]

My imagination might be more uhmm..... "vivid", but it does take me in other directions.

At one time our Football team had two students with gun shot wounds on it. Granted both shooting incidents (drugs and err..... "established group conflict") occurred off campus. The behavior of the students on campus, however, was less than sterling.

Our principal and athletic director have a "In general, better for at risk youth types to be on a team" line of thought.

Nothing starry eyed. Just pragmatism that an aggressive and bored youth with no direction is usually more problematic than the same youth on a sports team. Inherent safety risks are still banned from athletics. But the definition of "inherent safety risk" reflects the over all environment at our school.

In the end, I can see a scenario of: Brings knife to school- nobody got hurt. Gets expelled (transferred to alterative school) for a semester. Gets returned to the regular school. Promises never to do it again. Determined not to be an inherent risk. Is allowed back on the teams out of pragmatism.

I understand what you are saying, but if the students sought treatment for their wounds, the police would be notified. So were they playing football with possible charges pending? I don’t believe in throwing out children with the bath water, but once guns become it involved, IMO a greater intervention needs to occur. Also, what message does this send to kids, or even kids with behavioral problems that haven’t yet stepped over the line? I just can’t see this as a good public policy.

 

[Miss Poovy]

I don't think we have a clear answer on any of those questions yet.

I’m thinking some details may not be released given the publicity. Would be interesting to know.

 

[PrairieWind]

I’m thinking some details may not be released given the publicity. Would be interesting to know.

I am certain that there is a LOT of information that isn't being release just because it is part of the ongoing investigation. The police will know if he was supposed to be there or not, how he got there, who he talked to and interacted with prior to the stabbing.

 

[Miss Poovy]

I am certain that there is a LOT of information that isn't being release just because it is part of the ongoing investigation. The police will know if he was supposed to be there or not, how he got there, who he talked to and interacted with prior to the stabbing.

Definitely!

 

[Cryptic]

I understand what you are saying, but if the students sought treatment for their wounds, the police would be notified. So were they playing football with possible charges pending?

Yes- both students were hospitalized after being shot. Criminal charges against the two for the shooting incidents , however, were not very likely.

Rather, they were the victims (had been shot by others). This made them innocent in the legal sense. Neither one, however, was "innocent" in the full sense of the word.

In either case, they then re-joined the football team after recovering.

 

[Miss Poovy]

Yes- both students were hospitalized after being shot. Criminal charges against the two for the shooting incidents , however, were not very likely.

Rather, they were the victims (had been shot by others). This made them innocent in the legal sense. Neither one, however, was "innocent" in the full sense of the word.

In either case, they then re-joined the football team after recovering.

From your previous posts, I guess my mind ran to juvies still getting to play sports. . Now, with so many protections, such as FERPA, which I agree with, you may never know the character of the kids playing. I believe in second chances, if warranted. What did KA’s parents do to correct his behavior? I would be more than concerned if my kid had a knife at school. I don’t know that I would be thinking about suing the school, but if you get folks involved, who may be interested in making a $, they may be skewing the parents’ thinking.

 

[mickey2942]

From your previous posts, I guess my mind ran to juvies still getting to play sports. . Now, with so many protections, such as FERPA, which I agree with, you may never know the character of the kids playing. I believe in second chances, if warranted. What did KA’s parents do to correct his behavior? I would be more than concerned if my kid had a knife at school. I don’t know that I would be thinking about suing the school, but if you get folks involved, who may be interested in making a $, they may be skewing the parents’ thinking.

Having worked in schools, I can definitely say that there are different rules for different kids. You learn very quickly that sometimes, it just isn't worth saying anything. After all, most teachers need their jobs. To pay rent/mortgage, have health insurance, pensions...

 

[Trino]

Having worked in schools, I can definitely say that there are different rules for different kids. You learn very quickly that sometimes, it just isn't worth saying anything. After all, most teachers need their jobs. To pay rent/mortgage, have health insurance, pensions...

Different rules for teachers too. Retired teacher here. Large district, and what astounded me was how district employees were related. Nepotism. Never knew if a kid in your class was related too.

 

[Knox]

It makes sense to me, but I haven't been able to confirm if his team was actually there - if he was no longer team captain, or if he was suspended for the knife incident, or even if he was ditching class. Seems to be a lot of insinuations but not a lot of confirmed facts here. Yet.

If he were suspended and the team did participate that day. He shouldn’t have been on bus either. So how would he have gotten into meet?

Surely though if any of this were the case. The family would not be taking action against the school district or defending their son for being somewhere he wasn’t supposed to be, right?

 

[Ontario Mom]

If he were suspended and the team did participate that day. He shouldn’t have been on bus either. So how would he have gotten into meet?

Surely though if any of this were the case. The family would not be taking action against the school district or defending their son for being somewhere he wasn’t supposed to be, right?

Without having any facts confirmed (was he skipping class, was he supposed to be there, how did he get there, etc.) it's nearly impossible to make sense of this case.

In regards to the bolded above, common sense says no, they'd not be blaming the school for something their son did in a place he wasn't even supposed to be.

 

[Cryptic]

If he were suspended and the team did participate that day. He shouldn’t have been on bus either. So how would he have gotten into meet?

I think the most likely scenarios would be:

A. Buys a ticket: Track events, especially District championship meets with strong program schools, can draw in relatives and friends besides parents. Though the gates are manned by teachers with an eye out for obvious truant types, he is old enough to pass as a graduate.

He would still need to get down to the field. But.... changing into "likely student participant", he could pass through a gate with other participants buying snacks and going back down.

B. Sneaks in: Track events cover alot of area with strong security not historically not being needed. He then finds an open gate in the back lot, has a friend open one, hops the back lot fence etc.

In either case, a suspended student cannot participate, but also cannot observe etc. in any capacity. Thus, he could not exactly sit in his team's area with out immediately being noticed by one of his coaches. So, he sits in another teams area?

In regards to other "team areas", I should emphasize that there is a very high expectation in our largely low income district (close to his) that one stays away from other school's areas and associated possessions for many reasons.

Frisco (over all higher income), might not take it to our level, but the expected norm would still be very evident. In short, Karmelo knew the norm and knew that what he was doing could be seen as a provocation.

 

[Ontario Mom]

"A representative for the family of Texas teen Karmelo Anthony, who is accused of fatally stabbing another teen at a high school track meet, said they believe their son is innocent. “I believe the Anthony family feels that, yes, Karmelo Anthony is innocent of this, and they are going to support Karmelo Anthony in this entire process and get him prepared,” Dominique Alexander told NewsNation on Wednesday."

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/karmelo-anthonys-rep-says-his-family-believes-hes-innocent/

Ironically, Karmelo himself admitted to LE he stabbed Austin. Now somehow, he's magically innocent.