TX - Austin Metcalf - 17 - fatally stabbed at track meet, 2 April 2025

  • #801
Yes, well.... you can't murder someone for putting their hands on you.
Witness testimony as to what that 'physical' confrontation and what was said-- will be crucial.
A shoving , grabbing or punching match still will not get Karmelo off the hook !
Boys and young men have been scuffling for ages.
I don't believe anything Austin did justified murder.
Imo.

This. I agree.

The family, friends and those who have donated money of the accused boy, don't seem to understand what the legal requirements are for self-defense. The support seems to be more from an emotion or opinionated idea of what is "right".

Again, this one seems pretty straightforward. I suspect he will be given a plea deal and would be wise to accept it.
 
  • #802
"We know this case has struck a deep nerve — here in Collin County and beyond. That’s understandable," Willis said. "When something like this happens at a school event, it shakes people to the core."

When a school resource officer arrived at the scene, Anthony reportedly said: "I was protecting myself."

Anthony also said Metcalf put his hands on him and admitted to stabbing the teen out of self-defense, according to his arrest affidavit.

“Is he going to be OK?," Anthony asked.

"Karmelo and his family are confident in the justice system and the people of Collin County to be fair and impartial," Anthony's attorney, Mike Howard, said in a statement. "Of course, Karmelo looks forward to his day in court."

Metcalf's father, Jeff, he was "pleased that we are moving forward" following the indictment.

"With the first-degree murder indictment, it now goes into the court system. I fully believe that justice will be served for Austin Metcalf. I look forward to the forthcoming trial. But it will never bring my son back," Jeff Metcalf said.
Pbm.
What a loss for the Metcalf's. 😭

Completely senseless and utterly stupid of KA.
If I were the parents/family of KA, I'd be writhing with shame.
Omo.
 
  • #803
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  • #804
I suspect he will be given a plea deal and would be wise to accept it.

I agree about the wise, part, but do not think there is going to be a substantial plea bargain offer. I also don't think that Anthony is inherently willing to accept a plea bargain.

Unlike Dallas county, deadly violence at schools is unheard of in Collin County. And..... a certain number of Collin County residents moved there precisely to get away from Dallas crime, including shootings, stabbings and beat downs in schools and at sports events.

Those leaving Dallas for Collin County due to violence would include a certain number of black residents. If Anthony and his felon crew thinks he is going to generate a lot of mystical racial bonding with blacks in the area, he is likely badly mistaken.

Rather, a good number of potential black jurors moved to Collin county to get their sons away from "Anthony". Heck, I know one such black parent personally (suddenly pulled her daughter out of our high school, then moved to Collin County as she did not like the "rough to dangerous" road our school was taking.

Parents like her also know full well that "Anthony's" usual victims are black youth- and will being going no limits "NIMBY" (along with area Whites, Hispanics, Indians and Asians) regarding the actual Anthony and any others like him in Collin County.

In the end, very few in Collin County want leniency of any kind. Rather, they want a very clear example made via a guilty verdict and a very long sentence.

In short.....

The DA is going to be facing a lot of "NIMBY- set an example- now!" from Collin County residents.
Thus, I doubt the DA is going to offer a substantial plea bargain.

Likewise, Anthony, his family and their felony crew likely believe their own propaganda that they can win the case based on a fuzzy social justice / self defense claim.

My bet is that they ignore any common sense recommendations made by their lawyer regarding plea bargains. After all, why plea bargain win one is destined to win?
 
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  • #806
I agree about the wise, part, but do not think there is going to be a substantial plea bargain offer. I also don't think that Anthony is inherently willing to accept a plea bargain.

Unlike Dallas county, deadly violence at schools is unheard of in Collin County. And..... a certain number of Collin County residents moved there precisely to get away from Dallas crime, including shootings, stabbings and beat downs in schools and at sports events.

Those leaving Dallas for Collin County due to violence would include a certain number of black residents. If Anthony and his felon crew thinks he is going to generate a lot of mystical racial bonding with blacks in the area, he is likely badly mistaken.

Rather, a good number of potential black jurors moved to Collin county to get their sons away from "Anthony". They know full well that "Anthony's" usual victims are black youth- and will being going no limits "NIMBY" (along with area Whites, Hispanics, Indians and Asians) regarding the actual Anthony and any others like him in Collin County.

In the end, very few in Collin County want leniency of any kind. Rather, they want a very clear example made via a guilty verdict and a very long sentence.

In short.....

The DA is going to be facing a lot of "NIMBY- set an example- now!" from Collin County residents.
Thus, I doubt the DA is going to offer a substantial plea bargain.

Likewise, Anthony, his family and their felony crew likely believe their own propaganda that they can win the case based on a fuzzy social justice / self defense claim.

My bet is that they ignore any common sense recommendations made by their lawyer regarding plea bargains. After all, why plea bargain win one is destined to win?
Do you think there’s a possibility of a request to move the trial?
 
  • #807
But … we haven’t heard “the full story”. I have seen this same exact statement from at least five different people associated with Karmelo Anthony.

Really looking forward to hearing these details which his defense and others think will clear him of a murder charge. Can’t help but wonder though, why they didn’t share these details with investigators when he was arrested, making a trial unnecessary to begin with?

Color me confused.
They needed time to make up the "full story".

jmo
 
  • #808
They needed time to make up the "full story".

jmo
and time to attempt to adjust the public narrative to agree with their client's threat assessment
 
  • #809
and time to attempt to adjust the public narrative to agree with their client's threat assessment
It's all an act. Showboating and posturing to promote their own social agenda.
And the Anthony family seem to be perfectly fine with it.
 
  • #810
They needed time to make up the "full story".

jmo

and time to attempt to adjust the public narrative to agree with their client's threat assessment

Yes, and yes, agreed 100 % to both posts.

Making it (or at least part of it) up as they go along ?
This crime seems more cut & dried then some other cases.
All the defense for KA may have is make-believe... crazy as that sounds.
After all, the defense atty.'s have their own careers and reputations to consider.
For my own part, I think it'd be wise to keep KA behind bars for many years.
Maybe for his own good as well as any potential future victims.
I doubt the Metcalf's would disagree as it's certain they don't want any other parents & siblings to have to go through this horror.

If KA's given leniency and reoffends, he may very well die behind bars.
Guess we will see, though.
Imo.
 
  • #811
Willis’ office noted that 17-year-olds are considered adults in the Texas criminal justice system. If convicted, Anthony faces five to 99 years, or life, in prison, the office said.

Anthony’s attorney, Mike Howard, called the indictment an “expected and routine step in the legal process,” and said the teen “looks forward to his day in court.”

“It’s only in a trial that a jury would hear the full story, one that includes critical facts and context that the grand jury simply didn’t get to hear,” Howard said

Anthony’s mother, Kala Hayes, spoke out on the incident at a press event in April, saying the family has “been under attack.”

“Whatever you think what happened … my three younger children, my husband and I didn’t do anything to deserve to be threatened, harassed and lied about,” she said.
 
  • #812
Do you think there’s a possibility of a request to move the trial?
Yes, I think a request will be made. The "community advocates" associated with the defense have already floated the idea.

But.... I doubt the request will be granted. There is very strong tradition that trials be held in the county of the offense.

Quiet back door deals involving big fish in small ponds aside (the town I grew up in changed a venue for the scion of a local big fish who killed a resident while street racing- then blamed the "other dude".), changes of venue must be made for reasons of inherent unfairness.

Right now, all the defense seems to be able to prove is: Well, the over all demographics of a 600,000 people county do not favor the defense".

This does not show inherent unfairness and my bet is that it will be de-nied.
 
  • #813
Willis’ office noted that 17-year-olds are considered adults in the Texas criminal justice system. If convicted, Anthony faces five to 99 years, or life, in prison, the office said.

Anthony’s attorney, Mike Howard, called the indictment an “expected and routine step in the legal process,” and said the teen “looks forward to his day in court.”

“It’s only in a trial that a jury would hear the full story, one that includes critical facts and context that the grand jury simply didn’t get to hear,” Howard said

Anthony’s mother, Kala Hayes, spoke out on the incident at a press event in April, saying the family has “been under attack.”

“Whatever you think what happened … my three younger children, my husband and I didn’t do anything to deserve to be threatened, harassed and lied about,” she said.
I don't feel sorry for this murderer's mother one tiny little bit. She needs to shut up for the sake of her 'family' and her murderer. Then maybe the "attacks" would stop, you think?! js/imo
 
  • #814
I agree about the wise, part, but do not think there is going to be a substantial plea bargain offer. I also don't think that Anthony is inherently willing to accept a plea bargain.

Unlike Dallas county, deadly violence at schools is unheard of in Collin County. And..... a certain number of Collin County residents moved there precisely to get away from Dallas crime, including shootings, stabbings and beat downs in schools and at sports events.

Those leaving Dallas for Collin County due to violence would include a certain number of black residents. If Anthony and his felon crew thinks he is going to generate a lot of mystical racial bonding with blacks in the area, he is likely badly mistaken.

Rather, a good number of potential black jurors moved to Collin county to get their sons away from "Anthony". Heck, I know one such black parent personally (suddenly pulled her daughter out of our high school, then moved to Collin County as she did not like the "rough to dangerous" road our school was taking.

Parents like her also know full well that "Anthony's" usual victims are black youth- and will being going no limits "NIMBY" (along with area Whites, Hispanics, Indians and Asians) regarding the actual Anthony and any others like him in Collin County.

In the end, very few in Collin County want leniency of any kind. Rather, they want a very clear example made via a guilty verdict and a very long sentence.

In short.....

The DA is going to be facing a lot of "NIMBY- set an example- now!" from Collin County residents.
Thus, I doubt the DA is going to offer a substantial plea bargain.

Likewise, Anthony, his family and their felony crew likely believe their own propaganda that they can win the case based on a fuzzy social justice / self defense claim.

My bet is that they ignore any common sense recommendations made by their lawyer regarding plea bargains. After all, why plea bargain win one is destined to win?

Very good post. I am not from the area and so I certainly understand what you are saying.

I'll bet the defense petitions hard for a change in venue.
 
  • #815
Let there be no question! To add more credibility to the GJ Indictment, KA's defense went against the standard and was allowed to deliver a packet of info to the grand jury for consideration. They were not deterred. First-degree murder charges stand as first detailed by investigators.


6/25/25

Grand jury proceedings are held behind closed doors, and unlike most court hearings, are not open to the public.

However, Anthony's advisor Dominque Alexander told DailyMail.com that his defense attorney was able to present a packet with evidence Anthony wanted the jurors to see.

The embattled teen learned about the indictment shortly before the news was released to media Tuesday afternoon, Alexander added.
 
  • #816
a packet full of bull💩 is still bull💩 at the end of the day and it sounds as if the GJ gave it exactly the level of consideration it warranted and not one ounce more.
 
  • #817
Two Words: Casey Anthony.

I watched almost every minute of that trial. And was as stunned as Nancy Grace when "Tot Mom" was found "Not Guilty".

Ironic that they both have the same last name.
 
  • #818
@PrairieWind

will be interested in your thoughts as this one proceeds towards adult trial with adult consequences at stake
 
  • #819
Two Words: Casey Anthony.

I watched almost every minute of that trial. And was as stunned as Nancy Grace when "Tot Mom" was found "Not Guilty".

Ironic that they both have the same last name.
I am gong to need you to go outside immediately turn around three times and spit!
 
  • #820
@PrairieWind

will be interested in your thoughts as this one proceeds towards adult trial with adult consequences at stake
Thankyou. I will try to follow this case. Things will move slowly for a while now. This is going to be a sad case moving forward. I am concerned about the defendant's family's comments so far. The young man is out on bail on a first degree murder charge. That is amazing.
 

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