TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018 #2

[imstilla.grandma]

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[Mariel Van Arkle]

One way in which both of Ambers stories could be true is if Botham did open the door, and backed away facing her with his hands up, and she shot him as he retreated from her.

 

[mickey2942]

And why don’t we have AG’s toxicology report back?

Yes, isn't that "Special". I read an article, I quoted it in the first thread, that it could take "months" to get tht information.

Hmmm, it takes less than 48 hours for a confirmation from a laboratory for verification of drugs and alcohol use, for blood work, when someone has to submit bloodwork/urine for a Workers Compensation or Department of Transportation mandatory test.

 

[Rocco]

The evidence support her story that she shot into a dark apartment without even bothering to see if it was her apartment. Criminal negligence. Especially being a member of the PD.

Or bothering to see who she was shooting.
Shoot first--turn on the light to see who you shot after.

 

[TrueCrime03]

The list of items found seem strange to me:

Two that really stand out are listed below.
1 black backpack with police equipment and paperwork
1 black ballistic vest with "police" markings

I doubt that most full on known drug dealers have a "ballistic vest with "police" markings" just hanging around their apartment.

Now I'm asking a sincere question here:
How many people here think that there is much of a chance that the police backpack and police vest belong to Mr Jean and if not how did it get in his apartment?

Thank You for the new information. If you get more facts Please Post

 

[Eclipse]

The list of items found seem strange to me:

Two that really stand out are listed below.
1 black backpack with police equipment and paperwork
1 black ballistic vest with "police" markings

I doubt that most full on known drug dealers have a "ballistic vest with "police" markings" just hanging around their apartment.

Now I'm asking a sincere question here:
How many people here think that there is much of a chance that the police backpack and police vest belong to Mr Jean and if not how did it get in his apartment?

Maybe the officer who killed him laid them down after the shooting ?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Affidavit to search Botham Jean's apartment

 

[Jennifer17]

The list of items found seem strange to me:

Two that really stand out are listed below.
1 black backpack with police equipment and paperwork
1 black ballistic vest with "police" markings

I doubt that most full on known drug dealers have a "ballistic vest with "police" markings" just hanging around their apartment.

Now I'm asking a sincere question here:
How many people here think that there is much of a chance that the police backpack and police vest belong to Mr Jean and if not how did it get in his apartment?

They would have to be her belongings.

 

[Mariel Van Arkle]

Has anyone heard anything more about the surveillance system in his apartment?

 

[Thora_Jay]

He had a ballistic police vest yet no other cartridges or even a gun..... ummmm... doesn't sound right. Kinda makes me wonder if that was planted and maybe the weed along with spare key... it stinks to high heavens even without comparing the narrative from the arrest warrant and the search warrant. Those two conflict greatly. Arrest warrant; door was open she shot a sillouette across the room Search Warrant: she fumbled at the door with the key and he opened the door meeting her there.... both warrants sworn

I believe the vest is hers isn’t it? She had her vest in her hand from what it read. It was described as “heavy”. Anyone else read that?

 

[Eclipse]

He could have all sorts of stolen goods or contraband in his apartment.

She still violated the law whe she killed him.

SHE is arrested ad accused of at least manslaughter.

He is not accused of any crimes.

Why do we even

The list of items found seem strange to me:

Two that really stand out are listed below.
1 black backpack with police equipment and paperwork
1 black ballistic vest with "police" markings

I doubt that most full on known drug dealers have a "ballistic vest with "police" markings" just hanging around their apartment.

Now I'm asking a sincere question here:
How many people here think that there is much of a chance that the police backpack and police vest belong to Mr Jean and if not how did it get in his apartment?

And I don't know why it's even lawful to publicize what is in his apartment.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

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[Eclipse]

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It is disgusting.

 

[Jennifer17]

Maybe the officer who killed him laid them down after the shooting ?

Or she put them down when she couldn't get her key to work.

 

[Wagtales10]

the evidence supports amber

Honest question.

Do you think he deserved being shot?

Do you think no punishment should be handed to AG?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“I think it’s unfortunate that law enforcement begin to immediately criminalize the victim — in this case, someone who was clearly was the victim that has absolutely no bearing on the fact that he was shot in his home,” said Lee Merritt, attorney for Jean’s family. “I would love to see more information coming out about the warrants executed on the home of the shooter who lived just below him. I haven’t seen any of those. And particularly for it to be on this day the day that we remember and celebrate him... to see the common assassination attempt on the victim that we often see in law enforcement involved shootings.”

Attorneys not involved in the case say they believe that specific language about contraband and narcotics was included in the search warrant request because it is something that may have been in plain sight when in Jean’s apartment after he was killed by the officer.

Search warrant: Marijuana found in Botham Jean's apartment after deadly shooting

 

[Jim G]

The problem here is that we don't know the exact interaction and words between the two. dark silhouette approaching. he is not responding to commands. you don't expect him there. you've got all your police gear nearby, you're angered someone is stealing your stuff.

 

[Rocco]

Why do we even


And I don't know why it's even lawful to publicize what is in his apartment.

Amazing that all this personal information about the victim is somehow being released but nothing about the killer.

Where are the 911 calls?

When is the Grand Jury meeting?

What does HER apt look like?

Who is her attorney?

She's the one the public wants to know about because of what she did.

 

[TinaG]

Or she put them down when she couldn't get her key to work.

Why would you even need to fumble with a key to unlock and door that's supposedly already open! If I walked up to my door and it was open or ajar I wouldn't be trying to put a key in it!

 

[DatelineFan]

What if Botham had been hearing impaired? I mean, clearly she would have killed him anyway, as she wasn't taking the time to even get a look at him. But I keep thinking about different factors and it just breaks my heart, and frightens me that there are people who are so careless.