TX TX - Brandon Lawson, 26, San Angelo, 8 Aug 2013 - #2

[Balor51]

I am rereading the Timeline of facts that the PI ( BP ), posted and there are just way too many contradictions and discrepancies. I do not understand how a PI does not see this.

 

[Mandy1979]

And lets not forget that he tells his brother he is bleeding and his brother never tells anyone for several days!!

That is what I find very strange indeedy!

 

[Mandy1979]

How strange is this? http://m.news9.com/story.aspx?story=24961117&catId=112032
Man being chased by cops and goes missing in a field? Cops said no troopers out that night? Could this be connected? I see it is 259 miles away, but I'm thinking, thinking and over thinking?

 

[Mandy1979]

Great points!

I keep going over the 911 call and if they sound very similar, how can anyone know who it actually was on that cell phone?

The whole move thing seems odd, if he was working in the oilfields too, why give up a good paying job?

I thought, if I am remembering rightly, that she was told to turn it over to LE. No idea if she did.

It's driving me nuts too. No straight answers, when LL is asked anything on FB its either ignored or people get jumped for being too mean and hateful.

I wonder who else is posting on HFBL as there is no way to know who is saying what? After seeing the timeline by BP I hold no faith in her as a PI as she has contradicted from what the police reported in various online interviews. If all is as LL is saying she is really getting a lot of poor help down there in TX.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

But now, she can't cash it. I would assume it would possibly go to his parents? Not sure how that would work since they are common law. Maybe BL didn't know she wouldn't be able to cash it.

She would have to prove common law. I don't think it would be easy for her to get. IF they filed joint taxes, had joint bank accounts and they spoke of each other as husband and wife maybe. If they didn't have or do anything joint probably not.

And I wonder who B listed as beneficiary on his 401k? Even if he listed her without proof that he is dead it could be many many years.

 

[bakerlady]

How strange is this? http://m.news9.com/story.aspx?story=24961117&catId=112032
Man being chased by cops and goes missing in a field? Cops said no troopers out that night? Could this be connected? I see it is 259 miles away, but I'm thinking, thinking and over thinking?

WOW!

We had a local case here a few years ago where a guy was pulling people over with the blue and red lights at night and impersonating an officer. He had a fake badge too.

It does happen. Maybe that's it.

 

[Mandy1979]

Has anyone else read the comment by LL dad regarding how he wishes she (LL) would move on and quit dwelling on BL's decision? He tells her that she could not deserve his decision and she should just move on. (I'm not sure what he means by deserve)

Such an odd statement just six months after BL went missing.

Another thing that caught my attention was regarding the state trooper who was busted for drugs, a Texas Ranger was involved in the investigation and had gone off of tips which lead up to the search warrant. We're the tips from K and A? Was this the corrupt state trooper that BL was referring to in the 911 call? When someone talks about the 911 tape and they hear "silence that" is that police terminology? Maybe LL didn't go to the police to report BL missing because she knew from K and A that a state trooper was involved and didn't trust the police, but resorted to that when she couldn't find BL. Is this the reason the Texas Ranger checked to see if any state troopers were in the area at the time? Is it possible BL was placed in hiding and turned state witness and LL wasn't told. BL's family refer to him in present tense, but LL refers to him in past tense. Could this explain why her dad makes the comment that he does, because he feels BL put himself in a situation that caused his disappearance? Just a thought and MOO.

LL's dad told her to just move on? Where is that post? What does he mean by BL's "decision?" Does he think BL also is in hiding? I have to admit that my time is limited and while I used to read there I changed over to here and just only go back when I need to refresh on some of these comments. I find this entire case baffling!:banghead:

 

[Mandy1979]

Found the time of when BL left the house. BP posted it on the HFBL fb, she states he left his and LL's house at 11:54. Supposedly he called his dad and then left the house. At 12:10 am K went to check on LL, then he left.

Wish we knew who called him to go check? I also don't recall seeing that in the timeline? Is that a rumor he went to check on her or did she say that? If she said he came to check how long did he stay? So he left and received BL's call and went back for the gas can or was he already there and left with gas can? Seems I recall she said she left it on porch for him?

 

[Mandy1979]

Oh wow that is interesting. This you found on fb? I'm wondering if it's possible that B's family is in on it (whatever IT is?) and perhaps LL is on the outside?

I do wonder why the Ranger checked to see if there were any State Troopers in the area. Such an odd comment to make if you ask me UNLESS he felt that maybe B was saying State Trooper? As soon as the 911 tape was released LL was pretty insistent that he did NOT say State Trooper. So why did the Ranger check into this.

What friends and acquaintances was B with recently? There would be no reason to state "recently" in that article unless it pertained to that night or even AFTER that night.

LL has given the time that B left the house as 11:53/11:54. She is the only person that knows and quite frankly I don't trust what she says too much. Stories have changed too many times.

Interesting theory. Just not sure I buy the witness protection without wife/kids? Do they do that? Do we know of other missing people that were in witness protection due to a case?

 

[Mandy1979]

B had recently (last few months) found out that he had a warrant. He could have been working with a lawyer to find out a way to get out of or lessen the charges. According to LL he was working on it in some capacity. I forget her wording but it was kind of odd.

It was said that the Sheriff brought the Ranger into the case due to resources and little to no manpower. I did read the Sheriff's wife wrote of two Deputies receiving a pay raise of double their salary, to me that seems very extravagant in a pay raise and if two Deputies worked at that rate, why dbl their salary and not just bring two more on? I honestly do not think I trust any "details" involved in this case. Which I think is partly why I am so hooked. I want to know the truth and I want him to be in some witness protection program but sadly I believe he is not alive.

 

[Mandy1979]

Article dated 9/28. At first I thought they meant the night he went missing. I think they are saying recent to 9/28 he had spent time with friends and acquaintances.

:banghead: Only adds to the mystery. Maybe he is alive and hiding. I don't even know anymore.

 

[Mandy1979]

WOW!

We had a local case here a few years ago where a guy was pulling people over with the blue and red lights at night and impersonating an officer. He had a fake badge too.

It does happen. Maybe that's it.

Here too but usually women are who got pulled over. What would a fake cop have to gain in pulling a male over? To rob them? I would think there would be far more reportings?

 

[Mandy1979]

But now, she can't cash it. I would assume it would possibly go to his parents? Not sure how that would work since they are common law. Maybe BL didn't know she wouldn't be able to cash it.

Did it ever say anywhere how much the 401K check was worth?

 

[Balor51]

I wonder who else is posting on HFBL as there is no way to know who is saying what? After seeing the timeline by BP I hold no faith in her as a PI as she has contradicted from what the police reported in various online interviews. If all is as LL is saying she is really getting a lot of poor help down there in TX.

I wonder too. While I like FB just for my friends of family, going over the HFBL page has made me hate FB :banghead: While my spelling can be bad at times, well lets just say I feel much better about it now..lol

Yeah, I have serious doubts about BP and her credibility.

LL puzzles me at times, sometimes she seems very naive, then other times it feels like she is playing a role. I know it is hard to get a sense of someone via the computer, but I try to go by what my gut instinct tells me.

Very frustrating:banghead:

 

[Balor51]

Did it ever say anywhere how much the 401K check was worth?

Not that I can find. I am guessing, at least a few thousand. He is young, and he hasn't been with this company very long, which seems kinda odd also. Usually you have to be with the company for a certain length of time before you can borrow against or can you totally cash it out? Hmmm I am only familiar with government because that is what my husband works and I retired from.

Now I am gonna do research into 401k's . I am so going to be late with homework :scared:

 

[Mandy1979]

Abiline and only a few weeks after BL went missing!
http://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/s...cement-officer/d/story/0TffbTb8hk24IWS8F33XMw

 

[Balor51]

She would have to prove common law. I don't think it would be easy for her to get. IF they filed joint taxes, had joint bank accounts and they spoke of each other as husband and wife maybe. If they didn't have or do anything joint probably not.

And I wonder who B listed as beneficiary on his 401k? Even if he listed her without proof that he is dead it could be many many years.

Common law has always confused me. I know several states have it and I assume it can vary state to state.

I bet they don't file joint taxes. That way she can claim head of household and be able to use the earned income credit. I used to do taxes part time when the kids were little. Its very common for people to do. If she works say as a waitress, its to her advantage.

 

[Balor51]

Wish we knew who called him to go check? I also don't recall seeing that in the timeline? Is that a rumor he went to check on her or did she say that? If she said he came to check how long did he stay? So he left and received BL's call and went back for the gas can or was he already there and left with gas can? Seems I recall she said she left it on porch for him?

I haven't found anything about leaving on the porch, but I could have missed it in the earlier threads.

According to the BP timeline, K went to check on LL at 12:10 and then he left. Then he called LL at 12:30 and said that BL ran out of gas and LL asked K to take the gas can, get it filled, and bring it to BL. K took the gas can and left. One of the missed calls from BL to LL was at 12:34 according to LL. The other two calls were at 12:38 and 12:48. BL called 911 at 12:53. I have no time for when LE arrived, but according to the timeline by BP K & A arrived at the truck at 1:18. At 4:30 LL spoke to K and he said he couldn't find BL.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Common law has always confused me. I know several states have it and I assume it can vary state to state.

I bet they don't file joint taxes. That way she can claim head of household and be able to use the earned income credit. I used to do taxes part time when the kids were little. Its very common for people to do. If she works say as a waitress, its to her advantage.

I do taxes too. (Used to be a certified tax preparer) It would be illegal for her to claim head of household. People do it all the time but the law states

Head of Household

You may be able to file as head of household if you meet all the following requirements.

You are unmarried or considered unmarried on the last day of the year. See Marital Status , earlier, and Considered Unmarried , later.

You paid more than half the cost of keeping up a home for the year.

A qualifying person lived with you in the home for more than half the year (except for temporary absences, such as school). However, if the qualifying person is your dependent parent, he or she does not have to live with you. See Special rule for parent , later, under Qualifying Person.

[Considered married. You are considered married for the whole year if, on the last day of your tax year, you and your spouse meet any one of the following tests.
You are married and living together.

You are living together in a common law marriage recognized in the state where you now live or in the state where the common law marriage began.

You are married and living apart but not legally separated under a decree of divorce or separate maintenance.

You are separated under an interlocutory (not final) decree of divorce.]

If she did file head of household she would never be able to claim common law marriage. And yes common law marriage laws are different in different states.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I agree that the family has a right to the 911 tape(s). I don't know if the one we've all heard is edited or not. And if edited by whom? LE or LL? I do feel there's a possibility that it was edited by someone.

I honestly can't say that I know of any FACTS in this case. Zero!
Is that B's voice on the 911 call?
Did he really leave the home at the time LL said?
Were the events of the night as what she said?
Is the account of conversations between K and A and B as they said?
Has everyone's cell phone records been checked by LE for verification?
Did Misty the Coke County dispatcher tell LL about TWO 911 calls made by Brandon on the 10th or did LL only find out about it when she reviewed the phone bill on the 12th/13th?
What is the proof that LE had to make them think he was no longer in Coke County or that he had recently been with friends/acquaintances (Sept article).

Oh Gosh I could go on and on. I'm more confused now than I was in the beginning!