GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #26 *Arrest*

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  • #941
The key situation is curious. Either someone was jokingly messing with her or purposefully hiding her keys for nefarious reasons.

Yes! I still don't understand the key photo. Was it a photo of just her hand with the keys showing the knot ring or was it a bigger photo of Christina and zoomed in? Was the the same photo of her ring(which I can't find now, btw) or one we have never seen?
 
  • #942
The key situation is curious. Either someone was jokingly messing with her or purposefully hiding her keys for nefarious reasons.
Your right but imo I don't think it was a joke at all...lots of weird stuff going on in that apartment that night...cm has a super kind heart as we all can tell just from her smiles so I think she could easily be taken advantage of by others
 
  • #943
There is not a lot of time from when they went into the garage to when EA left. Just throwing out another idea. What if someone else from that night met them in the garage. EA does leave by himself and goes home. Whoever was in the garage harmed CM and called EA back to the place to "help".
 
  • #944
Yes! I still don't understand the key photo. Was it a photo of just her hand with the keys showing the knot ring or was it a bigger photo of Christina and zoomed in? Was the the same photo of her ring(which I can't find now, btw) or one we have never seen?

From what I gather based on the warrant, it was a photo of her hand with two keys, and a ring on her middle finger. They determined it was Christina based on a picture of her with said ring on the middle finger. This is what I took from the warrant so MOO.

Your right but imo I don't think it was a joke at all...lots of weird stuff going on in that apartment that night...cm has a super kind heart as we all can tell just from her smiles so I think she could easily be taken advantage of by others

I don't believe it was joking either, I was just giving other scenarios of how the keys went missing then found then missing again.
 
  • #945
There is not a lot of time from when they went into the garage to when EA left. Just throwing out another idea. What if someone else from that night met them in the garage. EA does leave by himself and goes home. Whoever was in the garage harmed CM and called EA back to the place to "help".

I don't believe that for a second. DNA puts her in his trunk. Period. Too much has come out from the SW to make me believe he went home and only came back to help someone else.. Itt's more like he did the deed and maybe someone else helped him.
 
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The keys are a bone of contention again because now her mom is saying they were lost "twice" and found the last time at the apartment after Christina went missing (according to an interview night before last I think?). I am still unclear on the keys.

I remember the warrant stated that 2 individual keys and her gold ring were in her possession on the date she disappeared. If the keys were later found at PP apt, I think the warrant would say that or not mention them at all.

Her mom commented on one pic she posted on Twitter that she usually kept a messy room or something like that so I assume she didnt have a tidy interior purse either. Maybe just sort of all tossed in that backpack and when she was digging around she wasn't finding them, but they were in there the whole time. Idk the key thing is weird.??
 
  • #948
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  • #949
I don't believe that for a second. DNA puts her in his trunk. Period. Too much has come out from the SW to make me believe he went home and only came back to help someone else.. Itt's more like he did the deed and maybe someone else helped him.
He could have put her in the trunk when he went back.... I'm just thinking of anything and everything is all. When I think of different ways it could have gone down. I think he did it by himself... Someone helped him... It's always changing
 
  • #950
I thought very early on he may have offered (and she accepted) a ride back to the aparment for her keyes. But then I don't know what after that. I just can't picture him assualting her in the parking garage. Too little time for it to go down unless pre-meditated. But then pre-meditated could even be on their walk there if he thought he'd knock her out, put her in the car, and assualt her elsewhere.

It seems only logical that she willingly got into his car initially simply because of, like you say, the time frame. There are literally just minutes between them walking into the garage and then the car seen driving out. But the strange thing is that its not reported that they saw her in the car leaving. Grainy, dark...whatever reason she isn't seen. Regardless, there just isn't enough time between them walking in and the car leaving for him to pause, lure her to his car, assault her, get her in the trunk..... it seems to me they probably agreed to get into his car and go somewhere and then temptation and violence overtook him.
 
  • #951
He could have put her in the trunk when he went back.... I'm just thinking of anything and everything is all. When I think of different ways it could have gone down. I think he did it by himself... Someone helped him... It's always changing

Oh I totally agree with the ever changing theories. In 2 seconds I can go from one theory and talk myself out of it to another.

I just want this family to have some closure and for Christina to be home before Christmas.
 
  • #952
It seems only logical that she willingly got into his car initially simply because of, like you say, the time frame. There are literally just minutes between them walking into the garage and then the car seen driving out. But the strange thing is that its not reported that they saw her in the car leaving. Grainy, dark...whatever reason she isn't seen. Regardless, there just isn't enough time between them walking in and the car leaving for him to pause, lure her to his car, assault her, get her in the trunk..... it seems to me they probably agreed to get into his car and go somewhere and then temptation and violence overtook him.

She's so tiny, I don't tthink it would take much to knock her out, but still I just don't see it going down in the garage unless pre-meditated. And I think pre-meditation could have occurred on the walk to the garage in a sense he knew he wanted to have his way and thoughts of how to get that done filled his head. It was a 20 minute walk. MOO
 
  • #953
Seeing the recent abduction on video, it happened so quickly. http://www.foxbaltimore.com/news/fe...duction-caught-on-tape-wbff.shtml#.VJZUqtBDAA

It would take little time to hit a woman hard enough to knock her out and toss her into the trunk especially if he is standing right next to her. Not saying it did happen this way, but it is possible.

Maybe LE can be certain she left in the trunk because her DNA was ONLY found in the trunk.
 
  • #954
She's so tiny, I don't tthink it would take much to knock her out, but still I just don't see it going down in the garage unless pre-meditated. And I think pre-meditation could have occurred on the walk to the garage in a sense he knew he wanted to have his way and thoughts of how to get that done filled his head. It was a 20 minute walk. MOO

Yeah I thought about that too.... him just knocking her out quickly.... but then he was really lucky to get her to his car (since she was going to hers...unless she asked him to walk her to her car and he said just a minute let me do something in my car and she followed him..not wanting to be alone and that way he lures her to his car)...so if he managed to get her to his car, I still think, even a knock out... I mean still there would probably of been some blood, tissue or something...and if not, then still he would of had to pop his trunk and lift her up and get her in there, pick up all her stuff and then leave... seems even if it happened quickly, if he was able to just do that so quick, it still wouldnt be minutes... from the time they were walking to him driving out, minutes...didn't they say the time frame was reasonable for him to of walked to his car, gotten in and driven out? In my mind.... there is this thought...but I dont believe it...but, I had this thought of....what if she planned with him for her to just disappear.... she agreed to get into the trunk...for him to drive her home and help her disappear to Mexico..... DNA in the trunk was just maybe from crying.... saliva, tears...kinda the same .... I do not think she would ever do that to her mom... maybe in the moment she thought it sounded good...without really realizing all the pain and suffering it would cause because in that moment her pain was great and she just wanted to get away... maybe she mentioned she wanted to just disappear and he told her he could make that happen. Of course at this point it seems he would of already said thats what happened if it did.... but I think it sounds good to wish she is alive in Mexico.
 
  • #955
He could have put her in the trunk when he went back.... I'm just thinking of anything and everything is all. When I think of different ways it could have gone down. I think he did it by himself... Someone helped him... It's always changing
IMO since LE states CM's car did not leave until her father drove it out would mean they watched the video surveillance tapes for those 4 days. (However long it was from the time they see EA and CM entering the garage until she was finally reported missing and MM drove her car out of the parking garage) They would have seen him re-enter the garage in his camaro (which he would have had to be in to get her DNA in his trunk) I have also thought maybe he went back to clean up any evidence. Now that the warrants were released we know he was back in the area, but he could not have went back in THAT parking garage in his car. LE would have seen it. Unless he was in someone elses vehicle.
 
  • #956
Yeah I thought about that too.... him just knocking her out quickly.... but then he was really lucky to get her to his car (since she was going to hers...unless she asked him to walk her to her car and he said just a minute let me do something in my car and she followed him..not wanting to be alone and that way he lures her to his car)...so if he managed to get her to his car, I still think, even a knock out... I mean still there would probably of been some blood, tissue or something...and if not, then still he would of had to pop his trunk and lift her up and get her in there, pick up all her stuff and then leave... seems even if it happened quickly, if he was able to just do that so quick, it still wouldnt be minutes... from the time they were walking to him driving out, minutes...didn't they say the time frame was reasonable for him to of walked to his car, gotten in and driven out? In my mind.... there is this thought...but I dont believe it...but, I had this thought of....what if she planned with him for her to just disappear.... she agreed to get into the trunk...for him to drive her home and help her disappear to Mexico..... DNA in the trunk was just maybe from crying.... saliva, tears...kinda the same .... I do not think she would ever do that to her mom... maybe in the moment she thought it sounded good...without really realizing all the pain and suffering it would cause because in that moment her pain was great and she just wanted to get away... maybe she mentioned she wanted to just disappear and he told her he could make that happen. Of course at this point it seems he would of already said thats what happened if it did.... but I think it sounds good to wish she is alive in Mexico.

Absolutely it sounds good that she's alive in Mexico but logic would state that's not the case. I think it's very possible she got in willingly either to fetch her keys from PP's apartment or tto get a ride to her dads, though I don'tt lean that way at all. I am very curious to hear what they found out from crash data from his car regarding the damage. If he hit her with his car hard enough to cause that damage, I would think there'd be blood and he'd be squeeging that part of his vehicle. There is just so much that came out, it makes my head spin and all my theories are picked apart.
 
  • #957
Seeing the recent abduction on video, it happened so quickly. http://www.foxbaltimore.com/news/fe...duction-caught-on-tape-wbff.shtml#.VJZUqtBDAA

It would take little time to hit a woman hard enough to knock her out and toss her into the trunk especially if he is standing right next to her. Not saying it did happen this way, but it is possible.

Maybe LE can be certain she left in the trunk because her DNA was ONLY found in the trunk.
it does seem they were not able to find her DNA inside his car and only in the trunk. But he did spend so much time making sure the inside was clean and vacuumed it may take a more extensive thorough search. I am curious to see if the unknown male DNA found is EA's.
 
  • #958
IMO since LE states CM's car did not leave until her father drove it out would mean they watched the video surveillance tapes for those 4 days. (However long it was from the time they see EA and CM entering the garage until she was finally reported missing and MM drove her car out of the parking garage) They would have seen him re-enter the garage in his camaro (which he would have had to be in to get her DNA in his trunk) I have also thought maybe he went back to clean up any evidence. Now that the warrants were released we know he was back in the area, but he could not have went back in THAT parking garage in his car. LE would have seen it. Unless he was in someone elses vehicle.

I thought there was some ally way type of thing that a car could of pulled along by that garage off camera is why I was thinking that way.. Like someone was there and said they found her keys.. Just thinking of what may have happened. I just hope her family finds some kind of peace soon..
 
  • #959
IMO since LE states CM's car did not leave until her father drove it out would mean they watched the video surveillance tapes for those 4 days. (However long it was from the time they see EA and CM entering the garage until she was finally reported missing and MM drove her car out of the parking garage) They would have seen him re-enter the garage in his camaro (which he would have had to be in to get her DNA in his trunk) I have also thought maybe he went back to clean up any evidence. Now that the warrants were released we know he was back in the area, but he could not have went back in THAT parking garage in his car. LE would have seen it. Unless he was in someone elses vehicle.

I thought there was some ally way type of thing that a car could of pulled along by that garage off camera is why I was thinking that way.. Like someone was there and said they found her keys.. Just thinking of what may have happened. I just hope her family finds some kind of peace soon..
 
  • #960
I thought there was some ally way type of thing that a car could of pulled along by that garage off camera is why I was thinking that way.. Like someone was there and said they found her keys.. Just thinking of what may have happened. I just hope her family finds some kind of peace soon..
I dont know about an allyway. I too want peace for her family and hope they are closer then we know to finding her.
 
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