GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #31 *Arrest*

[SteveS]

1 Somewhere N/E past the 121/Custer intersection.
...As to exactly where, we don't know. (LE may have better info on this.)
...It is my belief they went to "get something" and it was together (ie, with her as a passenger). Quick cup of coffee, so she could wake up for her drive to FW? Some drug, for the same purpose? Some drug, for a diff purpose? Just guesses.
2 My speculation is that he was taking her back to her car, after they went together to Place X. Both "where did they go" and "why did they come back" fit together easily with one not-unlikely explanation.

I know we don't know or we would know. lol!

I wonder if near Custer is nearby anything else. Or, is the area just open space and road/s?

We've discussed this at length before, but you may have missed it. Some of the salient info...

1 121 is a tollway with limited entrance and access
2 We know EA went past (not "to") Custer per the toll records.
3 He may have gone to the very next exit, or continued "forever" (within the time limitations) since Custer was the last toll-taking location for an eastbound vehicle (which he was).
4 There are residences, business, all sorts of industry, and more in the general area "past 121/Custer" yet within the time limits. It's growing, suburban, some rural spots, US 75 (Central Exwy to Dallas) not far dead ahead, and you can probably speculate any general type of destination and it's not impossible.
5 LE could have much more ping info for EA during this time and are keeping that info under wraps for now.

 

[Happyshoes]

We have yet to see the lab results but the labs only job is to run the tests that the sampler requests.
The sampler is the one who documents the location of the samples (very thoroughly....generally with a sketch, photograph, and written description. I also imagine they have a thorough QA/QC process)
The lab has no way of knowing anything about the location the samples came from, other than from the information provided by the sampler (aka affiant).
IMO

You are awesome, how do you know this stuff? Or are you just naturally good at this? I think you should open your own detective agency. Your posters are so valuable, too! I tip my hat to you, girlfriend.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I see a "found property" report taken 9/5/2014 (noon) in that same area, Elijah dr & Infinity Ave.
crimereports.com

I know LE says they have not found any of her belongings, but they also said EA was cooperating and that he wasn't a POI for 3 months.

These incident reports are interesting. We can take comfort knowing LE knows who the reports involved and if Christina is linked to any of them.

The 2:19 one on the 30th is killing me (the suspense).

 

[BaeMomma]

Jmo, maybe one of the reasons the other females are being so quiet is if Christina asked that they come along to walk her to her car and they all refused, convincing her to go with EA...that would make your average person feel pretty guilty, jmo.

I wouldn't want my friends walking 20min @ 3:30am outside, guy or girl. I'm surprised PP didn't offer to run them down the street since it's my understanding that residents get close parking but guests have to park in those garages. I just couldn't send anyone out to walk that far without feeling guilty even if they made it ok, let alone this!!

 

[SteveS]

Man, so when we squeeze the text times in with the call times, the phone use is nearly constant.

Call at 2:30, text at 2:34, call at 2:42 a.m. - considering we may not know about all the text messages.

This takes me back to something I've thought for quite some time on this case.

From a male-female pov, I can see HF at some point rolling his eyes at his gf making a federal case out of something he thought insignificant, and "losing" (or, turning off and pretending to lose) his phone because he doesn't want to be bothered by her "nonsense" anymore. And I can see her ramping up the intensity, because he's not responding as she wants him to, and she thinks it's important as can be.

Not saying this to blame anyone for anything, but bf-gf dynamics are sometimes messy and pissy, with people (on both ends) going overboard in one way or another. In the context of "what happened later," those actions can be over-analyzed and taken for something different than simply bf-gf both acting nutso in trying to win the tiff, at 2 in the morning.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Man, so when we squeeze the text times in with the call times, the phone use is nearly constant.
Call at 2:30, text at 2:34, call at 2:42 a.m. - considering we may not know about all the text messages.

Very true.
Imessages between Apple devices use data, not, cellular service.
There could be many more texts that will not show on a phone log.

 

[Baseball27]

Do you think any of the people involved had the Cyber Dust app? This app completely deletes text messages withing a short amount of time....information could of been passed between each other and then gone within a minute. Something for PPD to think about with some of the younger people nowadays. How would PPD recover information like this...is it even possible through this app?

 

[MIKAYOYO]

This takes me back to something I've thought for quite some time on this case.

From a male-female pov, I can see HF at some point rolling his eyes at his gf making a federal case out of something he thought insignificant, and "losing" (or, turning off and pretending to lose) his phone because he doesn't want to be bothered by her "nonsense" anymore. And I can see her ramping up the intensity, because he's not responding as she wants him to, and she thinks it's important as can be.

Not saying this to blame anyone for anything, but bf-gf dynamics are sometimes messy and pissy, with people (on both ends) going overboard in one way or another. In the context of "what happened later," those actions can be over-analyzed and taken for something different than simply bf-gf both acting nutso in trying to win the tiff, at 2 in the morning.

I can totally see that, BUT, after not hearing from her again for 4 days especially after she specifically stated leave the door open, when would the concern kick in?

 

[Happyshoes]

Jmo, maybe one of the reasons the other females are being so quiet is if Christina asked that they come along to walk her to her car and they all refused, convincing her to go with EA...that would make your average person feel pretty guilty, jmo.

Very thoughtful post. Nobody saw this coming from EA at that juncture. Like I said, I keep going back to "jumped at the chance" to walk Christina since SB had told him to leave (might as well said go jump in a lake). She didn't want to lay down in either place, the couch or bed, with him. She wanted him to leave and Christina just happened to want to go to her car, so he was happy to have someone else to hit on. I'll bet he tried to talk to her. The bad thing is, I don't think she talked to him much at all since she's texting HF so much. That was her concern; she didn't think EA would hit on her, I guess. *getting late for me, forgive my disjointed statements*. Feel free to straighten me out, but I think it was the two of them ONLY. What dumpster he used may be too little, too late.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Do you think any of the people involved had the Cyber Dust app? This app completely deletes text messages withing a short amount of time....information could of been passed between each other and then gone within a minute. Something for PPD to think about with some of the younger people nowadays. How would PPD recover information like this...is it even possible through this app?

Interesting. I've always heard nothing is ever deleted, but from I gather from reading parent stuff, apps like Kik and Snapchat are untraceable, so who knows?

 

[Happyshoes]

Maybe Sprint dropped the charges.

Should be the least of his problems at this point. Good post.

 

[CookieM]

See I read it as coming from the rubber lip or the grove around the opening!
You know the part that when it closes seals the trunk.

That's also how I interpret the description of "trunk opening." I will be interested to see if DNA was found from swabs in other locations. It just seems weird to me that the one swab came from that location as opposed to the bottom of his trunk or a swab from underneath his trunk carpeting or from some place like where you store the jack or spare (you know how some cars have a little compartment in the trunk floor -- not sure about the camero.)
It just seems like if someone was bludgeoned to the point if being incapacited and blood was drawn, that blood would drip (especially if, as they say, they believe she was in his car at least until 5:30am) Or if she was strangled and was put into the trunk and after death released urine, surely that would also have collected at the bottom of the trunk as opposed to in the location of the swab from the trunk opening.

We were told numerous times that CM changed into PP's gray tshirt because she threw up and wasn't feeling well. What about the possibility that CM got into EA's car to go somewhere (?? Her dad's ??) and he said well put your puke shirt in the trunk so we don't have to smell it.
Then after passing the gantry EA hears from someone CM wanted to get in contact with and that person said I'm in Plano now so bring her over here and I'll take her home.
He turns around and when he gets there, she gets out, he pops the trunk, she goes round back, grabs her puke shirt, and puke has gotten on his trunk floor, as well as on her hand as she closes the trunk.
I know this doesn't explain away his lies but what if his initial lying had to do with him also buying drugs from the person he dropped her with and maybe now that he is held in jail he's actually told the cops more. Maybe LE has heard this story but until they know more about the DNA they aren't sure.

Or what if, when he brought her back towards the Shops to the person she wanted to see (whomever that may be) the person then attacked her and EA was an accessory.

Just throwing some ideas out there.

 

[SteveS]

Maybe Sprint dropped the charges.

Should be the least of his problems at this point. Good post.

Wait, weren't we just discussing why he has theft charges currently on file? If so, charges have not been dropped, and a trial is ahead, right?

 

[Happyshoes]

txyorkie,
Do you have a link to the incident calls made to Plano LE on August 30 and 31?
Since we have more information about CM's call log, the 2:19 a.m. time on the 30th is uncanny!

There's another one the next day but, afaik, Christina was missing already by then.

Again, why and who reported somebody missing from Henry's on September 1st?
Why from Henry's? Double weird.

This is creepy, too!

 

[SteveS]

Just throwing some ideas out there.

Cool. But I don't think we have any evidence pointing to the involvement of anyone other than EA. Nor has EA suggested any such scenario, so it's probably a dead end going in that direction. LE and a trial will have to follow the evidence, and it pretty much all points to EA as the culprit.

 

[CookieM]

Seems like at the time, EA was her ONLY choice, to walk her.. but yes, she probably assumed he wouldn't harm her..

But SN actually offered to drive her all the way to Ft Worth and even spoke to her on the phone while she was walking to the garage. So he could have walked her, or driven them both, or something. I don't think he was her only option, nor do I think any of the others at the apartment thought he was a creepy letch --- if they actually DID then they are pathetic for allowing her to walk off into the night with him all alone. I mean really! Would you say, "Eww this creep has been hitting on me and freaking me out trying to get in my pants, and now I brushed him off and he's all pissed.... Oh, bye Christina! Glad you came out tonight!" And let her leave with said creep???
I vote NO on the acting like a horny creep story.

 

[SteveS]

But SN actually offered to drive her all the way to Ft Worth and even spoke to her on the phone while she was walking to the garage. So he could have walked her, or driven them both, or something.

I'm not sure I understand your thinking.

While it's apparently known that SN offered to drive her, she said no. His reasons for asking, and hers for declining, would seem fairly transparent and incredibly common at the end of a night of intoxicating substances. (He thinks she's possibly too tired or messed up to drive, she thinks she's fine and wants to get home WITH her car.) Any adult who has ever been in a bar with friends at closing time, has at some time been on one end or the other of that conversation, I bet.

Since SN accepted her choice without ado, by implication he accepted that she had the ability to walk to her car as well, prior to a drive. Perhaps he even figured the open air and exercise would do her good and increase her ability to be alert as she drove.

I don't see anything in that common scenario that would raise alarms somehow (for being out of the norm, that is).

 

[truetexan]

Interesting when you see all the reports filed during that time period.
Missing person reports at 5700 Legacy on Sept 1 @ 11:56pm
and another missing person at 5700 Scruggs on Sept 2 @ 11:17pm ...... both are for CM?
and simple assault at 5700 Scruggs August 31@ 2:32am...still wonder if this was the fight EA mentioned, even a day later if so really makes me more certain more are involved
then the found property on Sept 5th @ 12:00pm
....I'm puzzled.....maybe EA went back to apartment and a fight happened the following day? Possibly? What are we missing?
https://www.crimereports.com/

 

[BaeMomma]

I want to say the body immediately starts the decomp process (from following other cases) so if that's true and dogs can pick up on the scent, will something like odoban or bleach cause a cadaver dog to not hit? Honest question.

I just thought of something when I read your comment here....

How do we know trained dogs haven't picked up decomp from his car?
I say that because LE never mentions anything about it (but why would they) yet they searched his car 9/3, 9/4, 9/8 and then seized it 9/26 for 11 days for an extensive forensic search (per warrant-in search of bodily fluids and trace evidence).

IMO they were looking for something in that car and......they found it!!

Perhaps they did smell it themselves (they are trained EA isn't) and they brought in dogs to confirm &/or dogs picked up a sent independently which prompted more thorough searches. The warrant does say, despite extensive amounts of cleaning & washing DNA can remain on items for extended periods of time.

One more point to this, when they say they believe CM was in his trunk when he left SOL the second time and returned home "with CM in his trunk".....WHY would they say that unless they have some proof. Decomp, DNA, pings, etc.

 

[CookieM]

I can totally see that, BUT, after not hearing from her again for 4 days especially after she specifically stated leave the door open, when would the concern kick in?

Apparently when the parents call about her missing.... or when the cameras are rolling...