GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #36 *Arrest*

[Happyshoes]

Anybody up thinking late (after 10pm)? I want to address if those of us who think EA lost it on Christina in the garage think that he killed her there, put her in the trunk or if he knocked her out, put her in the trunk, then went somewhere else to finish what he started? I tend to think it happened immediately.

Now OTOH, if she went with him to score from some other source, anything could have happened - I'm open to that much. Would there have been somebody locally that they could have tried to get in touch with? ALP? He was mad with HF that night, could have been an issue between the 3 of them if they hooked up. Wish we had more info. Just going to say a short prayer for CM's family instead. No matter how it went, I wish she had woken up and smelled the coffee long before she did. Like at a bad horror movie, I wanna say "Girrrlllll, don't go in there".

 

[MIKAYOYO]

I think they would rather have a body.. AK is probably a conviction & there is no statute on a murder charge down the road... (correct me if I'm wrong).. JMO

You're right, no statute of limitations on murder. An AK conviction will not get him the max sentence though, especially with no priors. He'll get 20 max and not serve even close to that. MOO

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Anybody up thinking late (after 10pm)? I want to address if those of us who think EA lost it on Christina in the garage think that he killed her there, put her in the trunk or if he knocked her out, put her in the trunk, then went somewhere else to finish what he started? I tend to think it happened immediately.

Now OTOH, if she went with him to score from some other source, anything could have happened - I'm open to that much. Would there have been somebody locally that they could have tried to get in touch with? ALP? He was mad with HF that night, could have been an issue between the 3 of them if they hooked up. Wish we had more info. Just going to say a short prayer for CM's family instead. No matter how it went, I wish she had woken up and smelled the coffee long before she did. Like at a bad horror movie, I wanna say "Girrrlllll, don't go in there".

I honestly believe she got in willingly. I also believe it was for a ride back to PP's apartment for her keys. (Yes, keys. I know many hate that but I can't get past it.) Some of y'all may find this shocking, but I don't doubt EA's guilt. I do believe someone or others were involved indirectly or after the fact, and I don't mean EA's blood relatives. I 100% believe drugs were directly or indirectly involved as well. I do not believe she was killed in the parking garage. MOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[SteveS]

I like this train of thought. With no body, the story I would be sticking to is "I went to my car and she went to her car and I didn't even notice which way she went." I was so effed up when I left the party that night I got lost and spent 2 hours driving around trying to find my way home.

After that story in court, imo the next thing that would be heard:

"Welcome to Huntsville, Enrique. This will be your home for the next 99 years. Unless we decide to bring you to court for a murder trial. Enjoy!"

Not saying it's not a story he won't try. There's some value to telling the same lie consistently, rather than changing the story over and over. But it is easy to see through, and doesn't make a dent in the massive pile of evidence mounted against him.

 

[SteveS]

Yeah, it sure didn't get rid of DNA, if EA used it for that...

Think he has a lawsuit, to sue them for an ineffective product that didn't work as promised? 99 years in prison are substantial damages incurred from the failure of a product! LOL

 

[zippixx]

I honestly believe she got in willingly. I also believe it was for a ride back to PP's apartment for her keys. (Yes, keys. I know many hate that but I can't get past it.) Some of y'all may find this shocking, but I don't doubt EA's guilt. I do believe someone or others were involved indirectly or after the fact, and I don't mean EA's blood relatives. I 100% believe drugs were directly or indirectly involved as well. I do not believe she was killed in the parking garage. MOOOOOOOOOOOO

It might have been a "normal" evening without the drug & alcohol mixture.. depending on EA's "normal" (sober) mental state of mind & if his fuse was lit...

 

[SteveS]

I think they would rather have a body.. AK is probably a conviction & there is no statute on a murder charge down the road... (correct me if I'm wrong).. JMO

You are correct. LE can wait as long as they wish, before later bringing a murder charge. No reason to hurry.

Usually, there is a reason to prosecute as quickly as possible, as a means to get the perp locked up and out of the public. But in this case he is already locked up, going nowhere, with a high likelihood he'll end up imprisoned for another 99 years after a trial that should happen later this year or early next year. In that context, no reason whatsoever to chase that murder angle yet.

 

[zippixx]

Think he has a lawsuit, to sue them for an ineffective product that didn't work as promised? 99 years in prison are substantial damages incurred from the failure of a product! LOL

EA should have read the fine print on the bottle... nowhere does it say "For DNA Removal". I think the Odorban Co is safe..

 

[MIKAYOYO]

It might have been a "normal" evening without the drug & alcohol mixture.. depending on EA's "normal" (sober) mental state of mind & if his fuse was lit...

But I don't think drug use would have been any different if EA wasn't even there. MOO

 

[Mamamerced]

I honestly believe she got in willingly. I also believe it was for a ride back to PP's apartment for her keys. (Yes, keys. I know many hate that but I can't get past it.) Some of y'all may find this shocking, but I don't doubt EA's guilt. I do believe someone or others were involved indirectly or after the fact, and I don't mean EA's blood relatives. I 100% believe drugs were directly or indirectly involved as well. I do not believe she was killed in the parking garage.
MOOOOOOOOOOOO

That's a pretty wide range.......between directly and indirectly, Mikayoyo. I'm sure drugs are involved at least indirectly; not so sure of the "directly", though.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

EA should have read the fine print on the bottle... nowhere does it say "For DNA Removal". I think the Odorban Co is safe..

I don't believe the Odoban presence is going to convict him. Nor do I believe he's going to get 99 years. No way. MOO If he's tried on AK and convicted, he'll get no more than 20 years and be out in 10. MOO. That's how our legal system works.

 

[zippixx]

But I don't think drug use would have been any different if EA wasn't even there. MOO

No, I don't either... That's how they had "big fun"..

 

[zippixx]

I don't believe the Odoban presence is going to convict him. Nor do I believe he's going to get 99 years. No way. MOO If he's tried on AK and convicted, he'll get no more than 20 years and be out in 10. MOO. That's how our legal system works.

Yeah, The Odo-Ban is just a tiny piece of the puzzle & might not even make it to court.. As far as 99 years, all I can say is we'll see & I hope you're wrong..:jail::behindbar

 

[MIKAYOYO]

That's a pretty wide range.......between directly and indirectly, Mikayoyo. I'm sure drugs are involved at least indirectly; not so sure of the "directly", though.

Not really. Drugs were involved. Period. They were either directly involved in her abduction and death or indirectly involved, but they were involved. Not so wide. I think the text about good rock (some 5 minutues at most before she disappears) proves that. MOO

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Yeah, The Odo-Ban is just a tiny piece of the puzzle & might not even make it to court.. As far as 99 years, all I can say is we'll see & I hope you're wrong..:jail::behindbar

If he's found guilty, I hope I'm wrong also. However, it's not realistic to believe he will get 99 years. I've seen murderers, child murderers, admittted murderers get less. It ain't gonna happen. MOO

 

[MIKAYOYO]

If he's found guilty, I hope I'm wrong also. However, it's not realistic to believe he will get 99 years. I've seen murderers, child murderers, admittted murderers get less. It ain't gonna happen. MOO

Yes, I'm quoting myself, but have to address that most cases have a strong following who believe the victim is a special circumstance and the perp will get maximum penalty, but I've followed enough cases to know that no one victim is so special they're going to get maximum justice. As much as we feel the defendants and perpetrators deserve death for what they've done, it's just not realistic and most of the time heartbreaking when they get minimum sentences or plea deals. But that's how our justice system rolls. Sad but true.

 

[hockeymom4]

If he's found guilty, I hope I'm wrong also. However, it's not realistic to believe he will get 99 years. I've seen murderers, child murderers, admittted murderers get less. It ain't gonna happen. MOO

Completely agree with you. It wouldn't make sense for him to get 99 years. Hard criminals with several felonies are not even given the max often times when they reoffend.

please refresh my memory, but were his prior arrests felonies or misdemeanors? I believe they are misdemeanors. I could be wrong. IF they are and he is convicted and only for this. I would bet a whole let it will not be for anywhere near to the max. The reason is the take into account the prior arrest record. Having no felonies would count for a lot. I found a recent conviction for a guy in TX who got 60 years for kidnapping BUT he had a TON of felonies. I mean a TON, some pending at conviction and past.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Completely agree with you. It wouldn't make sense for him to get 99 years. Hard criminals with several felonies are not even given the max often times when they reoffend.

please refresh my memory, but were his prior arrests felonies or misdemeanors? I believe they are misdemeanors. I could be wrong. IF they are and he is convicted and only for this. I would bet a whole let it will not be for anywhere near to the max. The reason is the take into account the prior arrest record. Having no felonies would count for a lot. I found a recent conviction for a guy in TX who got 60 years for kidnapping BUT he had a TON of felonies. I mean a TON, some pending at conviction and past.

I believe EA's prior is a misdemeanor.

 

[jennapuppy]

I will have to go back and look, but what was the deal with the damn white truck in the Mickey Schunick case? Didn't LE downplay the significance of the truck??

The DWT was really the only lead that LE shared with the public in the Mickey Shunick case. It was assumed by most that the driver of the DWT would end up being the perp.

When Brandon Lavergne, her murderer, was arrested, we were shocked at the wealth of evidence LE had that had never been shared with the public. And her body might never have been found if he hadn't led police to her body in a plea deal to keep the death penalty off the table.
MOO

 

[MIKAYOYO]

The DWT was really the only lead that LE shared with the public in the Mickey Shunick case. It was assumed by most that the driver of the DWT would end up being the perp.

When Brandon Lavergne, her murderer, was arrested, we were shocked at the wealth of evidence LE had that had never been shared with the public. And her body might never have been found if he hadn't led police to her body in a plea deal to keep the death penalty off the table.
MOO

Thank you. I could not remember exactly the deal with the truck, but it seemed it was downplayed somewhat by LE, only to learn with was a huge deal.