GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #38 *Arrest*

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  • #461
I am just asking - during your roadside emergency, what use would you have for a gag? for duct tape? rope? latex gloves? I just can't see confusing a rape kit for an emergency kit.

Just :cow:

It has gloves (not latex, but I can't remember what the name of the material is - used because many people have latex allergy,) nylon rope (for tying down your trunk, I think.) For a gag, use the roll of gauze or medical/first aid tape.

It's got all kinds of stuff: flares, those reflective caution triangles to put on the road behind your car when changing a tire or your car is disabled, fix-a-flat, jumper cables, etc. It might even have duct tape, I don't know. We've had it for several years and used it exactly zero times, LOL. (Corporate safety award prize.)
 
  • #462
I am not smart enough to follow that. It is so complicated! Previously my poor brain cells were taxed by How to Get Away with Murder. I hated to miss it. I cannot wait for the fall season. In the meantime, I shall settle into something more my speed: Dancing with the Stars.

bbm ~ Could have fooled me! :)
 
  • #463
Yes, or how about when you hit a deer and you have to duct tape your fender in place so you can drive.

Or your window gets stuck halfway up (or down, depending whether you're an optimist or pessimist) and you have to put plastic sheeting or a tarp over it until you can get to a mechanic. Yes, a tarp is in my kit. Also a utility knife.)
 
  • #464
Yes, we've had the address all along. I've been trying to locate a tower at that address.
There are different sites that allow you to see the cell towers.
I'm not well enough informed on the topic of cell phone towers to know if the sites show every cell tower in every geographic area.
When googling 5800 Granite Parkway, a bunch of businesses come up along with the new Hilton Dallas/Plano Hotel at 5808.
Did LE give a precise tower address or just an address in general?
:thinking: I've been unable to locate a tower there.

5800 Granite Pkwy is a very large office tower labeled as Siemens, which is a software/tech company. It would appear as though there are office suites for lease and is not exclusively used by Siemens. Maybe there is a cell tower on the top of that building for any building occupants?
 
  • #465
When I searched for "gantry" in earlier threads, posts turned up on the subject in Thread 14.
The discussion about EA's route may have originated in earlier threads but I didn't search 1-14 in order
(skipped ahead a few threads each time).

(from thread #14, post #569, Nov. 4, 2014)
Police released info via Warrant that EA took the Sam Rayburn Tollway (State Highway 121) and
"passed the Custer Road gantry northbound".
EA's tag registered at 4:08 a.m. at Custer, ten minutes after he exited the garage nearest to Henry's at The Shops At Legacy (3:58 a.m.).

The entry onto SRT from Legacy Drive in Plano is on the 40.70 mile marker along State Highway 121.

*From www.ask.com/wiki/Texas
iirc, Plano to Allen, Texas, State Highway 121

*State Highway 121 is a highway angling from southwest to northeast through north central Texas.
The highway begins in downtown Fort Worth (at the junction of Interstate 35W) extending to Bonham, Texas, and extends just north of the junction with U.S. Highway 82.

State Highway 121 is 85.563 miles long;
Fort Worth is marked SW 0.00 to 2.70 miles,
Dallas is 26.20 miles,
Plano at Legacy Drive is NE 40.70 miles,
Custer Road (FM2478) northbound exit and southbound entrance is marked 47.20 miles,
Custer Main Lane Gantry is 47.50 miles, etc.

https://www.ntta.org/roadsprojects/existroad/Documents/CPR_SRT_secure.pdf
This is the section of the State Highway 121 tollway (26 miles), known as the Sam Rayburn Tollway, and is relative to EA's travel the early morning of August 30, 2014.
A rectangle marks a Main Lane Toll Gantry (there is a rectangle at Custer at 47.50 miles), while a circle marks a
Ramp Toll Gantry (there's one at Custer a tad south of Main Lane at 47.20).**
There is a non-NTTA road on either side of SRT.

*East of Coppell (the map from NTTA linked above shows this section), the highway acts as the frontage road of the Sam Rayburn Tollway,
is a tolled freeway (is this an oxymoron?) that runs NE to McKinney.
From McKinney to Melissa, the state highway is multiplexed with US 75 and the North Central Expressway,
State Highway 121 is a smaller roadway referred to in some places as the Sam Rayburn Highway.

**EA passed "the Custer Road gantry northbound" at 4:08 a.m.
Also, I saw, "passed Custer on 121 at 4:08 a.m."
State Highway 121 begins in Fort Worth and continues to Bonham, Texas.
Specific stretches, not the total length, of State Highway 121 are called Sam Rayburn Tollway.

Prior to the Custer Gantry (4:08 p.m.) there's a toll place indicated on SRT that is very near to the area EA returned to and pinged from, 5800 Granite Parkway, at 4:56 a.m. (CM at 4:47).

If EA left the SAL garage and took Legacy Drive to SRT, would the first toll to register be as far as Custer?
If he entered SRT at Legacy, he would have driven right past the area he ended up pinging from within the same hour.
Entering from Legacy Drive on 121 (marker 40.70) to the Custer toll (marker 47.20 or 47.50) is a distance of about 6.5 miles. Add the mileage from the garage to the tollway.

What if he drove straight up (going north) on Custer Road from Legacy Drive when he left SAL and was entering SRT for the first time when he was toll tagged at 4:08?
Why then, shortly thereafter, did he turn around and drive to the Granite Parkway area pinging only about a mile short of SAL?
Could he have exited onto the non-NTTA road to drive undetected to his destination?

From the time EA was toll tagged to the time CM pinged from Granite Parkway area (4:08 until 4:47), what happened? Or, had something already happened prior to 3:58?
The Custer toll looks about as far north as Allen is but is west of Allen.

Although I'm not sure this post is clear, the turnaround is something to ponder.
Maybe people will give their input as to what it might signify.
EA ended back in an area (where CM's last ping registered) which is only about a mile away from SAL.
For all I know, towers can ping phones from over a mile away anyway so the pings don't pinpoint an exact location at 4:47 a.m. or, nine mins later, when EA pinged at 4:56.

Before EA turned around he had traveled about eight miles already (from SAL to the Custer gantry).

If any calculations are off, I apologize in advance. Please offer corrections if necessary. :gathering:
 
  • #466
When I searched for "gantry" in earlier threads, posts turned up on the subject in Thread 14.
The discussion about EA's route may have originated in earlier threads but I didn't search 1-14 in order
(skipped ahead a few threads each time).

(from thread #14, post #569, Nov. 4, 2014)
Police released info via Warrant that EA took the Sam Rayburn Tollway (State Highway 121) and
"passed the Custer Road gantry northbound".
EA's tag registered at 4:08 a.m. at Custer, ten minutes after he exited the garage nearest to Henry's at The Shops At Legacy (3:58 a.m.).

The entry onto SRT from Legacy Drive in Plano is on the 40.70 mile marker along State Highway 121.

*From www.ask.com/wiki/Texas
iirc, Plano to Allen, Texas, State Highway 121

*State Highway 121 is a highway angling from southwest to northeast through north central Texas.
The highway begins in downtown Fort Worth (at the junction of Interstate 35W) extending to Bonham, Texas, and extends just north of the junction with U.S. Highway 82.

State Highway 121 is 85.563 miles long;
Fort Worth is marked SW 0.00 to 2.70 miles,
Dallas is 26.20 miles,
Plano at Legacy Drive is NE 40.70 miles,
Custer Road (FM2478) northbound exit and southbound entrance is marked 47.20 miles,
Custer Main Lane Gantry is 47.50 miles, etc.

https://www.ntta.org/roadsprojects/existroad/Documents/CPR_SRT_secure.pdf
This is the section of the State Highway 121 tollway (26 miles), known as the Sam Rayburn Tollway, and is relative to EA's travel the early morning of August 30, 2014.
A rectangle marks a Main Lane Toll Gantry (there is a rectangle at Custer at 47.50 miles), while a circle marks a
Ramp Toll Gantry (there's one at Custer a tad south of Main Lane at 47.20).**
There is a non-NTTA road on either side of SRT.

*East of Coppell (the map from NTTA linked above shows this section), the highway acts as the frontage road of the Sam Rayburn Tollway,
is a tolled freeway (is this an oxymoron?) that runs NE to McKinney.
From McKinney to Melissa, the state highway is multiplexed with US 75 and the North Central Expressway,
State Highway 121 is a smaller roadway referred to in some places as the Sam Rayburn Highway.

**EA passed "the Custer Road gantry northbound" at 4:08 a.m.
Also, I saw, "passed Custer on 121 at 4:08 a.m."
State Highway 121 begins in Fort Worth and continues to Bonham, Texas.
Specific stretches, not the total length, of State Highway 121 are called Sam Rayburn Tollway.

Prior to the Custer Gantry (4:08 p.m.) there's a toll place indicated on SRT that is very near to the area EA returned to and pinged from, 5800 Granite Parkway, at 4:56 a.m. (CM at 4:47).

If EA left the SAL garage and took Legacy Drive to SRT, would the first toll to register be as far as Custer?
If he entered SRT at Legacy, he would have driven right past the area he ended up pinging from within the same hour.
Entering from Legacy Drive on 121 (marker 40.70) to the Custer toll (marker 47.20 or 47.50) is a distance of about 6.5 miles. Add the mileage from the garage to the tollway.

What if he drove straight up (going north) on Custer Road from Legacy Drive when he left SAL and was entering SRT for the first time when he was toll tagged at 4:08?
Why then, shortly thereafter, did he turn around and drive to the Granite Parkway area pinging only about a mile short of SAL?
Could he have exited onto the non-NTTA road to drive undetected to his destination?

From the time EA was toll tagged to the time CM pinged from Granite Parkway area (4:08 until 4:47), what happened? Or, had something already happened prior to 3:58?
The Custer toll looks about as far north as Allen is but is west of Allen.

Although I'm not sure this post is clear, the turnaround is something to ponder.
Maybe people will give their input as to what it might signify.
EA ended back in an area (where CM's last ping registered) which is only about a mile away from SAL.
For all I know, towers can ping phones from over a mile away anyway so the pings don't pinpoint an exact location at 4:47 a.m. or, nine mins later, when EA pinged at 4:56.

Before EA turned around he had traveled about eight miles already (from SAL to the Custer gantry).

If any calculations are off, I apologize in advance. Please offer corrections if necessary. :gathering:

I think you said in an earlier post (apologies if it wasn't you Woe) that you find the local geography the hardest thing to get straight and it's the same for me, I don't think in a way that easily allows me to visiualise this type of detail so thanks for setting it out like this. I'm going to re-consider this and catpatrol's map to see if anything new jumps out for me.

I don't tend to think that EA had help with hiding Christina just because for me it's an unlikely scenario (I don't see EA being able to convince someone to hide a body with him and then for that person to have given no clue for over 6 months but I could be wrong) so for me he went somewhere that he was able to think of at no notice that was probably rough ground (damage to the car) or with a body of water (no trace of a single possession of Christina's)

JMO
 
  • #467
When I searched for "gantry" in earlier threads, posts turned up on the subject in Thread 14.
The discussion about EA's route may have originated in earlier threads but I didn't search 1-14 in order
(skipped ahead a few threads each time).

(from thread #14, post #569, Nov. 4, 2014)
Police released info via Warrant that EA took the Sam Rayburn Tollway (State Highway 121) and
"passed the Custer Road gantry northbound".
EA's tag registered at 4:08 a.m. at Custer, ten minutes after he exited the garage nearest to Henry's at The Shops At Legacy (3:58 a.m.).

The entry onto SRT from Legacy Drive in Plano is on the 40.70 mile marker along State Highway 121.

*From www.ask.com/wiki/Texas
iirc, Plano to Allen, Texas, State Highway 121

*State Highway 121 is a highway angling from southwest to northeast through north central Texas.
The highway begins in downtown Fort Worth (at the junction of Interstate 35W) extending to Bonham, Texas, and extends just north of the junction with U.S. Highway 82.

State Highway 121 is 85.563 miles long;
Fort Worth is marked SW 0.00 to 2.70 miles,
Dallas is 26.20 miles,
Plano at Legacy Drive is NE 40.70 miles,
Custer Road (FM2478) northbound exit and southbound entrance is marked 47.20 miles,
Custer Main Lane Gantry is 47.50 miles, etc.

https://www.ntta.org/roadsprojects/existroad/Documents/CPR_SRT_secure.pdf
This is the section of the State Highway 121 tollway (26 miles), known as the Sam Rayburn Tollway, and is relative to EA's travel the early morning of August 30, 2014.
A rectangle marks a Main Lane Toll Gantry (there is a rectangle at Custer at 47.50 miles), while a circle marks a
Ramp Toll Gantry (there's one at Custer a tad south of Main Lane at 47.20).**
There is a non-NTTA road on either side of SRT.

*East of Coppell (the map from NTTA linked above shows this section), the highway acts as the frontage road of the Sam Rayburn Tollway,
is a tolled freeway (is this an oxymoron?) that runs NE to McKinney.
From McKinney to Melissa, the state highway is multiplexed with US 75 and the North Central Expressway,
State Highway 121 is a smaller roadway referred to in some places as the Sam Rayburn Highway.

**EA passed "the Custer Road gantry northbound" at 4:08 a.m.
Also, I saw, "passed Custer on 121 at 4:08 a.m."
State Highway 121 begins in Fort Worth and continues to Bonham, Texas.
Specific stretches, not the total length, of State Highway 121 are called Sam Rayburn Tollway.

Prior to the Custer Gantry (4:08 p.m.) there's a toll place indicated on SRT that is very near to the area EA returned to and pinged from, 5800 Granite Parkway, at 4:56 a.m. (CM at 4:47).

If EA left the SAL garage and took Legacy Drive to SRT, would the first toll to register be as far as Custer?
If he entered SRT at Legacy, he would have driven right past the area he ended up pinging from within the same hour.
Entering from Legacy Drive on 121 (marker 40.70) to the Custer toll (marker 47.20 or 47.50) is a distance of about 6.5 miles. Add the mileage from the garage to the tollway.

What if he drove straight up (going north) on Custer Road from Legacy Drive when he left SAL and was entering SRT for the first time when he was toll tagged at 4:08?
Why then, shortly thereafter, did he turn around and drive to the Granite Parkway area pinging only about a mile short of SAL?
Could he have exited onto the non-NTTA road to drive undetected to his destination?

From the time EA was toll tagged to the time CM pinged from Granite Parkway area (4:08 until 4:47), what happened? Or, had something already happened prior to 3:58?
The Custer toll looks about as far north as Allen is but is west of Allen.

Although I'm not sure this post is clear, the turnaround is something to ponder.
Maybe people will give their input as to what it might signify.
EA ended back in an area (where CM's last ping registered) which is only about a mile away from SAL.
For all I know, towers can ping phones from over a mile away anyway so the pings don't pinpoint an exact location at 4:47 a.m. or, nine mins later, when EA pinged at 4:56.

Before EA turned around he had traveled about eight miles already (from SAL to the Custer gantry).

If any calculations are off, I apologize in advance. Please offer corrections if necessary. :gathering:

I think you said in an earlier post (apologies if it wasn't you Woe) that you find the local geography the hardest thing to get straight and it's the same for me, I don't think in a way that easily allows me to visiualise this type of detail so thanks for setting it out like this. I'm going to re-consider this and catpatrol's map to see if anything new jumps out for me.

I don't tend to think that EA had help with hiding Christina just because for me it's an unlikely scenario (I don't see EA being able to convince someone to hide a body with him and then for that person to have given no clue for over 6 months but I could be wrong) so for me he went somewhere that he was able to think of at no notice that was probably rough ground (damage to the car) or with a body of water (no trace of a single possession of Christina's)

JMO
 
  • #468
Except that with no body, where is your evidence for a sexual assault?

What, in your opinion, would be another logical reason for a 23/24 year old male to abduct a 23/24 female after a night of drinking and drug usage? I personally think SA is a very viable motivation in the scenario above, as used by LE in this case.
 
  • #469
Thanks for doing the research after claiming the building wasn't standing yet!
Is it possible to get your hands on the guest list for the grand opening? :thinking:

Oh goodness, this, IMO is a moot point already due to so much time passing between your response and my response (now), but I want to clarify something because I believe it possible I did not communicate clearly. I’ve been working on the length of my posts and used fewer words in that moment rather than more, which clearly left it puzzling as to what I was trying to articulate.

If it helps provide context, this was a construction site on 8/30/14. I'm not sure when the project was completed, but it certainly was not by then.

Let me reset and restate:

“Doing the research”:
I live within a few miles from the shops. I drive past it daily, numerous times on some days, and have done so for the past 5 years. I will admit that was what my initial “research” on the matter of the Hilton and Granite Pkwy consisted of. The Granite Parkway development is a fairly substantial project and its visibility unavoidable if commuting on the Tollway/121 flyover.

“Claiming the building wasn’t standing”:
I have gone through the process of a build out in having owned a business. By saying “not complete”, I simply meant, “not yet open for business”. Reasons for that could include, and are not limited to: final inspection not yet having taken place, the certificate of occupancy not yet being received, guest rooms not yet containing furnishings, the city not yet closing open permits, the contractor not having walked the punch list, repairs not having been complete post punch list, etc.
I do not see where I communicated that the building “wasn’t standing”, but in all fairness, I can see that I did not fully communicate my thought.

“Guest list”:
In discussing a grand opening party and the nature of it being written up in a local news story I was merely speculating on what the discrepancy in information could be due to. I was careful to not state this as a fact by saying the grand open indicated a cocktail party of some sort. The reason I said it would have been by invitation is because these kinds of things usually include finger foods and drinks, which generally require some semblance, or general idea, of a head count.

I apologize if I indicated the building wasn’t erected, as that was not my intention. Thanks!
 
  • #470
Suzy, I did a very quick search so there may even be reports with explanations, etc. Here is what I did find. It's a comparison of Pheonix Arizona #6 in population vs Dallas Tx #9 in population in the US. I chose Arizona bc they have the same issue with immigrants, drugs, proximity from the border, similar racial profile, year round temps tend to be somewhat similar (that matters IMO), & a few other similarities.

Arizona has only executed 37 indiv since 1976 vs Texas at 522 since 1976. Much different mentality concerning (or not) the lives of criminals and punishment. If anything, Tx has a higher crime rate than other similar states.

http://www.bestplaces.net/crime/?city1=54819000&city2=50455000


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My husband and I were in San Francisco a few months ago and as I'm sure you all know, CA is a fairly liberal state. We passed San Quentin one day when driving around and started talking about it; it's usage, it's history, etc. When we were talking he told me that CA, while rarely executing an inmate does convict DP cases more frequently than other states which surprised the fool out of me. I, for sure, would have thought TX would outrank CA on DP convictions. I am attaching a link to some statistics which others may find interesting, if that's your kind of thing.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/FactSheet.pdf
 
  • #471
Except that with no body, where is your evidence for a sexual assault?
I'm curious as to why you ask this question? The Grand Jury indicted EA of SA.... Before they indicted EA, the prosecution had to present enough evidence of SA. The jury is made up of more than one person. The public does not know all the evidence that was presented.
I noticed from an earlier comment you made that you didn't know EA was indicted on SA. I think you know now as Steve explained that to you.
 
  • #472
He and others. I wonder whether they've taken a look at the phones and computers of anyone else who was at the party that evening. Does anyone who hangs around this forum every day know? Kids and 20-somethings these days seem to live on this "selfie"/"party pic"/social media thing. Seems like it would be a no brainer to round up the phones of all who were in the apartment and bar with their group that night and check out the pictures and phone calls.
That info is so basic... Can you say for a fact that PPD hasn't done all that?
 
  • #473
Apparently you people purchase more expensive emergency kits than me, LOL.

.
 
  • #474
I'm curious as to why you ask this question? The Grand Jury indicted EA of SA.... Before they indicted EA, the prosecution had to present enough evidence of SA. The jury is made up of more than one person. The public does not know all the evidence that was presented.
I noticed from an earlier comment you made that you didn't know EA was indicted on SA. I think you know now as Steve explained that to you.

The SA charge is not connected to Christina Morris. EA was charged with AK in the disappearance of CM.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/crim...cts-arochi-in-christina-morris-case/24724015/


<snip:>
A Collin County grand jury has indicted Enrique Arochi on an aggravated kidnapping charge in connection with the August 30 disappearance of Christina Morris.

The grand jury also indicted Arochi on a separate charge of the sexual assault of a child involving an underage girlfriend, a second-degree felony.


:cow:
 
  • #475
I keep hitting on and then dismissing a very valid point that someone mentioned upthread. Arochi is not going to tell where Christina is unless and until he is charged with capital murder. To do so would be admitting to a crime he is not charged with as yet, and even a crappy defense Atty. would not allow him to do that.
In the Holly Bobo case the accused are facing murder and kidnapping charges from BEFORE her remains were actually found, but it appears that those charges may have been based on here say and not on any physical evidence. IMO

I believe I had been dismissing the fact because I wanted him to tell. It's just not going to happen, IMO

:cow:
 
  • #476
A gag could be a bandana, which we use here in Texas as handkerchiefs, head wraps, etc. Duct tape is used in EVERYTHING. I would use gloves so as not to get any oil or grease on my hands. In fact, I use gloves all the time for cooking (jalapenos) and cleaning (boys bathroom YUCK). A rope could be used to tow another car. Lemme guess, you're from up north. :)

LOL
Damned Yankees!

:truce: NOT

:cow:
 
  • #477
  • #478
I keep hitting on and then dismissing a very valid point that someone mentioned upthread. Arochi is not going to tell where Christina is unless and until he is charged with capital murder. To do so would be admitting to a crime he is not charged with as yet, and even a crappy defense Atty. would not allow him to do that.
In the Holly Bobo case the accused are facing murder and kidnapping charges from BEFORE her remains were actually found, but it appears that those charges may have been based on here say and not on any physical evidence. IMO

I believe I had been dismissing the fact because I wanted him to tell. It's just not going to happen, IMO

:cow:

I think that was me, and since then I've wondered if it's possible for the DP to be "exchanged" for telling where Christina is. I don't know if the TX system allows for this but sadly I think you are right that he's not going to say anything anytime soon.

At the moment I think a lucky break for the searchers is the only way that Jonni and the family are going to get any peace.

JMO
 
  • #479
Oh goodness, this, IMO is a moot point already due to so much time passing between your response and my response (now), but I want to clarify something because I believe it possible I did not communicate clearly. I’ve been working on the length of my posts and used fewer words in that moment rather than more, which clearly left it puzzling as to what I was trying to articulate.

Can you tell I've not been working on reducing the length of my posts - lol!



Let me reset and restate:

“Doing the research”:
I live within a few miles from the shops. I drive past it daily, numerous times on some days, and have done so for the past 5 years. I will admit that was what my initial “research” on the matter of the Hilton and Granite Pkwy consisted of. The Granite Parkway development is a fairly substantial project and its visibility unavoidable if commuting on the Tollway/121 flyover.

“Claiming the building wasn’t standing”:
I have gone through the process of a build out in having owned a business. By saying “not complete”, I simply meant, “not yet open for business”. Reasons for that could include, and are not limited to: final inspection not yet having taken place, the certificate of occupancy not yet being received, guest rooms not yet containing furnishings, the city not yet closing open permits, the contractor not having walked the punch list, repairs not having been complete post punch list, etc.
I do not see where I communicated that the building “wasn’t standing”, but in all fairness, I can see that I did not fully communicate my thought.

“Guest list”:
In discussing a grand opening party and the nature of it being written up in a local news story I was merely speculating on what the discrepancy in information could be due to. I was careful to not state this as a fact by saying the grand open indicated a cocktail party of some sort. The reason I said it would have been by invitation is because these kinds of things usually include finger foods and drinks, which generally require some semblance, or general idea, of a head count.

I apologize if I indicated the building wasn’t erected, as that was not my intention. Thanks!

Thank you for the explanation. When I responded I should have added the razz thingy :razz:, because replies in writing can come across differently (harsher) than when a similar reply is delivered in person. Sometimes I'd like it if some of the points that are brought up here weren't dismissed so quickly and could be explored a little bit versus being shut down immediately.
 
  • #480
The fact remains that LE may have more pings or toll evidence helping them to fill-in details about EA's route during those morning hours.
If LE has them though, where did EA put Christina?
After leaving the ping range area on Granite Parkway, EA had only about 30 mins until he pinged again near to his house (off the tower located on the 1500 block of E.Bethany Dr. at 5:32am).

One detail that stands out to me (but may not mean anything) is LE mentioned the specific cell tower that pinged near to EA's home.
The 5800 Granite Parkway location is only mentioned as an address but a specific tower is not identified.
Does LE know EA was in the area of Granite Parkway because other evidence suggests that he was?
Only EA (and anybody he met up with) would know he returned to the area and was the reason he turned around.
 
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