GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #39 *Arrest*

[jnblsm]

Just a thought. Has anybody ever considered that EA might have handed Christina off to human traffickers? I know when Christina first went missing, that is what Jonni thought.
I live in TX now, but I'm very close to the border. Our nightly news is filled w/stories about drug cartels and human trafficking.
Anyway, this is just a thought and of course, MOO.
Let the tomato throwing commence.

Having just watched a program on human trafficking also, I'm not willing to rule that out. There's a lot of money in that. Follow the money... He did have an extremely nice car, although he lived with his parents. He did do drugs, was it a habit? He did dress really well. Seems like more money going out than coming in, even if not paying living expenses.
Perhaps he has been involved in part of the business for most of his adult life, just a small part, but enough to have a lot of extra cash. And maybe he is close enough to the head of operations to take a jail sentence.
Just throwing that out there so I can help you fend off the tomatoes.

I do lean more toward he just got lucky with a hiding place.

 

[bradfordsleuth]

Bumping this because it breaks my heart to see Christina end up on page 3.

Random thoughts that go through my head when I think of this case and I keep going back to this:

I know that the picture of Christina taken that night holding the two keys has been discussed intensely, and at the risk of beating a very dead horse I am going to put this out there. I really do think that drugs fit into her disappearance in a big way. According to msm, she sent that photo at 2:34 A.M.

IMO, the 2 keys was a big clue to a possible sale of 'two kilos' of drugs being sold that night. Another piece of this puzzle is the text from E.A.'s phone to H.F's "can I get some of that good rock" This text was sent at around 3:50A.M. (just over an hour later.) I think that LE can tell if this text was received by H.F. at that time, or received later on (which is why H.F. is NOT named a suspect - he had no clue that this possible drug deal was going to happen!)

WHAT IF: Apparently Christina and Hunter were fighting that night, and if Christina knew that H.F. was approximately a half hour away by car and thought that if she made a 'connection' between E.A. and H.F. that would help mend the fence between them. It could have been the first time she was even involved in H.F.'s dealings and was maybe an act of a woman who was hoping to hold onto a dissolving relationship.

Christina offers to 'hook' up E.A. with H.F. and they walk to the parking garage together...she gets into his car willingly and goes with him (intending to stay at the hotel and have H.F. drive her back to her own car the next morning.)

They start driving to H.F.'s hotel and perhaps they find a spot to pull over to smoke a joint first. E.A. tries to make a sexual advance towards Christina and she wants no part of it. She gets out of the car and then E.A. follows her (in his car) hits her and at that point is when he car gets damaged, she is likely injured but not completely incapacitated, he gets out of the car and then fights with her physically (this is where he gets the marks on his arm.) He overpowers her and puts her into the trunk of his car and then starts driving back to the Shops at Legacy to 'leave' her near her car. (Remember the pings from both of their phones returning to the area of SAL.)

Then he panics. Realizes that he has seriously injured her and ends up taking her to some remote place that is not too far from there. I really think that he either put her and her belongings into a dumpster or he has just lucked out by hiding her in 'plain sight' and she will soon be found. He may not even remember where he left her because he was just that messed up between smoking the weed, drinking and possible consumption of Adderall.

Please feel free to poke holes in this scenario, as I am not good at mapping and am not even sure if the route they took fits in with the direction of where H.F. was staying that night. It is just a thought that maybe ties in some of the missing pieces of that puzzle.

I really want Christina to be found and for her family and loved ones to have some closure. What E.A. has done to this family is unspeakable.

Sorry, this post got long and I thank you for any input you may have.

 

[SteveS]

I appreciate your working to think through the possibilities and try to put things together. Lots of good ideas in there.

A few FYIs that you might want to consider:
1 When EA and CM left the garage, they went the opposite direction from where HF was. At no time were they remotely near his hotel or traveling to it, from what is known of their route.
2 A kilo of drugs is not a street purchase, but is more of a huge dollar, dealer-to-dealer buy. They import kilos (buy in volume) and sell small amounts to users, just like any retailer.
3 CM's picture of her keys wasn't isolated, but rather was in the context of her keys having been lost and people looking for them, and then they were found. (IOW it's very logical that the pic was just her way of saying "look what I found.")
4 It's certainly possible that EA was too messed up to remember, but maybe he fully remembers, and the "too much booze and drugs" are his attempt at an excuse for not telling what happened. Because, he doesn't want those events to be found out and he needs an excuse for not saying what he did that night.

 

[daisytrail]

I did not know before about the computer in his car. Does that refer to a GPS system? It seems to me that if he was used to relying on it, it might have been useful for disposing of Christina but would also have made him vulnerable to being tracked. It reminds me once again how little we know about EA. Makes me wonder what is wrong with reporters nowadays. Here we have an excellent person in jail and no one is really backgrounding him. How crazy is that?

Excellent as a suspect, I mean.

 

[bradfordsleuth]

I appreciate your working to think through the possibilities and try to put things together. Lots of good ideas in there.

A few FYIs that you might want to consider:
1 When EA and CM left the garage, they went the opposite direction from where HF was. At no time were they remotely near his hotel or traveling to it, from what is known of their route.
Thank you for clarifying this as not being from the area, I was unsure if it was a possibility.
2 A kilo of drugs is not a street purchase, but is more of a huge dollar, dealer-to-dealer buy. They import kilos (buy in volume) and sell small amounts to users, just like any retailer.
I wasn't thinking that E.A. was buying for personal use, but rather to re-sell to a third party and 'take a cut' - I should have clarified this.
3 CM's picture of her keys wasn't isolated, but rather was in the context of her keys having been lost and people looking for them, and then they were found. (IOW it's very logical that the pic was just her way of saying "look what I found.")
The picture just seems to have been a big issue through out the night and I was wondering if there was more to it, especially since there was another text that said, 'Leave the door open' which I could also do a lot of reading into!
4 It's certainly possible that EA was too messed up to remember, but maybe he fully remembers, and the "too much booze and drugs" are his attempt at an excuse for not telling what happened. Because, he doesn't want those events to be found out and he needs an excuse for not saying what he did that night.

I agree, he is looking for an excuse to avoid any accountability for the events that took place that night, that is why he keeps maintaining his 'I am a nice guy' status.

Also, a little off-topic, but I want to thank you for all of your informative posts....I think that your input on this thread has been an excellent source of information. Your posts are clear and to the point "SHE WAS IN HIS TRUNK!".

So based on my experience in following a number of other cases on WS, I am going to ASSume that LE has kept under their hats a lot more information than we can even imagine. I think that when this case goes to trial, we will find that there is a lot of video footage of E.A. on his cleaning frenzy at work using the infamous shopvac. When those DNA results are released, I would love to be a fly on the wall and hear what LE has to say!

I keep going back to those cell pings....IMO they tell a story....LE just needs to figure out what is being told.

JMO

 

[SteveS]

Brad, thanks for the kind words :smile: Re the kilos, it doesn't make sense to me because I can't imagine that EA had a spare $60K lying around, to buy 2 kilos and then sell some to his friends - and I haven't seen anything to suggest that EA was moonlighting as a drug dealer - but ya don't know what ya don't know, so .....

 

[bradfordsleuth]

Brad, thanks for the kind words :smile: Re the kilos, it doesn't make sense to me because I can't imagine that EA had a spare $60K lying around, to buy 2 kilos and then sell some to his friends - and I haven't seen anything to suggest that EA was moonlighting as a drug dealer - but ya don't know what ya don't know, so .....

True. But please also keep in mind that we also were not aware about his past history with the underage ex-girlfriend until it was published by LE when he was charged with sexual assault. Although it wasn't a shock that it happened, it still caught many WS'ers by surprise, myself included. We kind of all knew it could be there brewing under the surface, and then BANG....out came the story.

There could be many more skeletons in his closet that we are just scratching the surface on.

 

[SteveS]

Oh, I agree we might only know the tip of the iceberg on EA's crimes (which is why I noted that we don't know what we don't know). In fact, from the time of his arrest in December I was noting that EA's smug attempts to lie his way out of suspicion hinted to me of a darker past than we knew. It seemed to me (and still does) that he is far too comfortable at lying, especially with something so heinous, exhibiting an assumptive attitude that they couldn't tell he had lied. Make me think he has lied his way out of suspicion many times in the past, to the point where it's a comfort zone for him.

But I still think CM's pic of the keys was about lost keys. :smile:

 

[bradfordsleuth]

That's why its good to have so many different perspectives on this site. We can all throw our ideas into a big pot, stir it up and see what comes out...sometimes we find out that we hit upon the truth! :thinking:

It kills me that unless Christina miraculously turns up (alive) or someone stumbles on her remains, we are in this limbo waiting until the trial (or DNA results) to find out what LE knows. Until then, I keep going back to the beginning to re-read old threads and msm articles to see what (if anything) has been missed. As we all know, the tiniest little detail can break a case wide open. I really hope that this happens.

We can only hope that E.A. grows a conscience and soon breaks his silence about where he went with Christina that night.....for her family's sake.

 

[SteveS]

Yep, I appreciate you adding another pov to the mix.

I certainly echo your wish that EA tells where CM is. But I think it's not likely to arise from "the goodness of his heart" and will probably take a fear of not having a deal to get him to tell (ie, a desire to get a deal and remove the downside where she's found and he gets the death penalty). Then again, if he doesn't chase and get a deal, they may ultimately try him for murder anyhow, body or not, after the AK is adjudicated. I don't think I'm the only one that feels if he killed her, he needs to get full justice for what he did.

 

[bradfordsleuth]

Yep, I appreciate you adding another pov to the mix.

I certainly echo your wish that EA tells where CM is. But I think it's not likely to arise from "the goodness of his heart" and will probably take a fear of not having a deal to get him to tell (ie, a desire to get a deal and remove the downside where she's found and he gets the death penalty). Then again, if he doesn't chase and get a deal, they may ultimately try him for murder anyhow, body or not, after the AK is adjudicated. I don't think I'm the only one that feels if he killed her, he needs to get full justice for what he did.

There is a special kind of place in hell for people like him!
Her family will get the justice they deserve for what he has done to Christina.
JMO

 

[DietDrPepper]

Well, EA still has the excellent match for a cell-mate. If he can't bring himself to tell the families and LE about what happened, then he can always talk to this guy in Spanish and let him be the one to explain it to authorities.

S-P, F (hyphenated Hispanic) has been in jail since Feb. I'm surprised no one has paid his small bond amount.
https://apps.collincountytx.gov/injail/InJailSearch.aspx

 

[daisytrail]

That's why its good to have so many different perspectives on this site. We can all throw our ideas into a big pot, stir it up and see what comes out...sometimes we find out that we hit upon the truth! :thinking:

It kills me that unless Christina miraculously turns up (alive) or someone stumbles on her remains, we are in this limbo waiting until the trial (or DNA results) to find out what LE knows. Until then, I keep going back to the beginning to re-read old threads and msm articles to see what (if anything) has been missed. As we all know, the tiniest little detail can break a case wide open. I really hope that this happens.

We can only hope that E.A. grows a conscience and soon breaks his silence about where he went with Christina that night.....for her family's sake.

I wish I thought that people his age could grow a conscience, but I don't. I think if you have not developed at least the rudiments of one by age 14, it's not going to happen.

While I don't think drugs were the prime motivator in his actions (I think SA was), I still think they may have played a role beyond the mere poor judgment that they so often cause.

 

[SteveS]

I did not know before about the computer in his car. Does that refer to a GPS system?

It does NOT.

For many years now (from more than 25 years ago, as that was when I first became aware of them), cars are built with a central computer that regulates systems and records info. Like their "brain." Exactly how detailed the records are? I'm not sure. The speculation of some is that there are detailed GPS logs of a car's movements embedded in that computer (which would certainly be a great benefit in this case), but I'm not sure I buy that the computer records and retains info like that.

 

[leep]

It does NOT.

For many years now (from more than 25 years ago, as that was when I first became aware of them), cars are built with a central computer that regulates systems and records info. Like their "brain." Exactly how detailed the records are? I'm not sure. The speculation of some is that there are detailed GPS logs of a car's movements embedded in that computer (which would certainly be a great benefit in this case), but I'm not sure I buy that the computer records and retains info like that.

Respectfully added:-
http://www.wired.com/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/
http://techland.time.com/2012/03/30/new-onstar-service-lets-you-track-your-familys-cars-online/

 

[SteveS]

Respectfully added:-
http://www.wired.com/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/
http://techland.time.com/2012/03/30/new-onstar-service-lets-you-track-your-familys-cars-online/

Thanks, but that really tells us less than we need to know to ascertain the answer to the question.

The promising part it it's a subscriber service on GM cars, and EA's Camaro qualifies. But (1) if he wasn't a subscriber, then what? and (2) while it offers real-time navigation and location, does it record and retain that info for access months later? Or is it just a current-time locator that erases as it goes?

 

[leep]

Thanks, but that really tells us less than we need to know to ascertain the answer to the question.

The promising part it it's a subscriber service on GM cars, and EA's Camaro qualifies. But (1) if he wasn't a subscriber, then what? and (2) while it offers real-time navigation and location, does it record and retain that info for access months later? Or is it just a current-time locator that erases as it goes?

The point was only that wether you subscribe or not it keeps on recording in case you ring up and re-subscribe it will then work straight away without needing a trip to the garage.

The stored data in the hard drive of the GPS tracker would only be no good after it's got no more free space to write new data to it, meaning it would be about every five years worth of journeys before it needs to overwrite any of the old data.

I think by now we can assume the data hasn't helped LE, but the officer was confidant in court when he spoke to JMOM.



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[Steleheart]

It does NOT.

For many years now (from more than 25 years ago, as that was when I first became aware of them), cars are built with a central computer that regulates systems and records info. Like their "brain." Exactly how detailed the records are? I'm not sure. The speculation of some is that there are detailed GPS logs of a car's movements embedded in that computer (which would certainly be a great benefit in this case), but I'm not sure I buy that the computer records and retains info like that.

Thank you. Just jumping off here in general. To my knowledge the On Board Computer (OBC) does not have any capability for GPS recording. GPS is separate and usually installed by oneself or included as an option but is not connected to the OBC. The function of the OBC is to control and monitor vehicle performance and control functionality. The OBC records important data relating to mileage, engine function, mechanical systems, pollution control and etc. Additionally it does record data as it relates to a driver, even different drivers depending on coded keys and such. That kind of data sets parameters such as acceleration, braking, auto-shifting and the like. It will also retain data that could be important to LE or insurance carriers regarding speed, braking, air bag function/ deployment and major failure preceding an accident for instance.

A subscribed system like OnStar or a GPS navigator would require an affidavit for a warrant by LE IMO. There is no secret 'black box' available to LE to trap or otherwise convict someone without probable cause that is unknown to the general public as yet.

IMO it is not as if the OBC and other systems do not have those capabilities but as yet the very idea is still against our Constitution.

My own city is currently debating the cost and viability of allowing our LPD to install Registration Plate scanners to better make safe traffic stops, etc. That is a separate Issue, when I register my car I am required to display my plate - I do not care how they read it, LOL.

I would love, love, to see a GPS enabled system, that when LE does, in fact, have probable cause, as in a high speed chase, that they could cause a perp's engine to shut down. OnStar can shut your engine and unlock your car, so it's possible. I just can't see it becoming legal for LE any time soon even though it would save lives and property.

If I am wrong at all please correct me, I would appreciate it!


MOO

 

[leep]

Thank you. Just jumping off here in general. To my knowledge the On Board Computer (OBC) does not have any capability for GPS recording. GPS is separate and usually installed by oneself or included as an option but is not connected to the OBC. The function of the OBC is to control and monitor vehicle performance and control functionality. The OBC records important data relating to mileage, engine function, mechanical systems, pollution control and etc. Additionally it does record data as it relates to a driver, even different drivers depending on coded keys and such. That kind of data sets parameters such as acceleration, braking, auto-shifting and the like. It will also retain data that could be important to LE or insurance carriers regarding speed, braking, air bag function/ deployment and major failure preceding an accident for instance.

A subscribed system like OnStar or a GPS navigator would require an affidavit for a warrant by LE IMO. There is no secret 'black box' available to LE to trap or otherwise convict someone without probable cause that is unknown to the general public as yet.

IMO it is not as if the OBC and other systems do not have those capabilities but as yet the very idea is still against our Constitution.

My own city is currently debating the cost and viability of allowing our LPD to install Registration Plate scanners to better make safe traffic stops, etc. That is a separate Issue, when I register my car I am required to display my plate - I do not care how they read it, LOL.

I would love, love, to see a GPS enabled system, that when LE does, in fact, have probable cause, as in a high speed chase, that they could cause a perp's engine to shut down. OnStar can shut your engine and unlock your car, so it's possible. I just can't see it becoming legal for LE any time soon even though it would save lives and property.

If I am wrong at all please correct me, I would appreciate it!


MOO

Your correct, but we call it (ECU) engine control unit in Europe.



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[Steleheart]

Your correct, but we call it (ECU) engine control unit in Europe.



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Yes! and in UK those round things are tyres,