GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #6 *Arrest*

[Agent.Veritas]

I have reason to suspect that location is in Fort Worth .. exactly where I am not sure.
It is an older building ... FWIW .. Fort Worth is really big on renovations and preservation of the history. If a historical building is structurally sound enough they will fight to preserve it and restore with upgrades.

A member decoded the html and determined it was uploaded that evening, but not necessarily taken that night, IIRC?

 

[Bootsctr]

Thing is, after a month, this does not look good.
Not to be a pessimist, but, with the entire situation in consideration...it just does not look good.
Then why not come clean? Why not tell the truth, if, in fact there is something they are hiding.
If CM had an issue...substance, eating, emotional...whatever...telling the truth will not make the situation any worse. No one is searching. So, its' not like searchers will shy away. The FB group is stagnant.

And for me, personally, no demon of her's will make me "not like her" or "not want her to be found".

There has to be more to this story. And the silence...is deafening.

:goodpost: I agree! Why not come clean? The step-father (maybe father) said from the beginning in a TV interview that "nobody was going to file any charges." Ultimately, of course, he would not have any say if charges were filed or not, but couldn't somebody report it anonymously?? Telling the truth about any issues Christina might have had is not going to have true friends and supporters abandoning her, but only draw them closer. Unless they have all made some vow not to tell anyone anything and if someone did tell anonymously then they would know who that person was and that person's life might be in danger then. I think Equusearch will search again, but they want/need accurate information to be able to find someone in a place like Plano Texas (lots of wide open spaces (miles and miles) and rough country side too). Somebody has that information.

 

[Jjalexander]

What are the chances she is in Mexico?

 

[CookieM]

Thank you txyorkiemom! You did ID the picture as being taken in Fort Worth! Good sleuthing.

No, we discussed this a while back and her last twitter pic that you can see on yooying is taken in Dallas. We know this because she tagged it #ddd which is Dallas. If it were in Fort Worth, she tags a pic #funkytown.

 

[txyorkiemom]

What are the chances she is in Mexico?

Why Mexico?? Don't get me wrong I loved places in Mexico .... but these days it is pretty dangerous even for those that are well armed and protected.

 

[txyorkiemom]

No, we discussed this a while back and her last twitter pic that you can see on yooying is taken in Dallas. We know this because she tagged it #ddd which is Dallas. If it were in Fort Worth, she tags a pic #funkytown.

ok cook.. I withdraw my statement ... the building looks like FT WORTH inter-model,building next to postoffice etc

 

[Agent.Veritas]

Timeline, just to keep it fresh in our memories:

Friday, 8/29/14:

1. At work (location?) until (time?) - could be verified from the boss of GE, who has been active on the PPD fb page.

2. Preparation to come to Plano/The Shops - unverifiable, unless access to text messages with friends she planned to meet (example-- "I need to shower, straighten my hair, xyz, and then I'm on my way")

3. Travel time to come to Plano/The Shops (which could be verified via NTTA on the SRT-- very unlikely that she'd take any other route if it was a direct Ft. Worth-to-Plano trip and there was no NEED to avoid cameras (as we suspect perp may have)

4. Arrival to parking garage (could be verified with cams)

5. Arrival to Henry's (are there cams there? If not, presence could be confirmed via bar-tab credit card, etc, or license scan, depending...)


Here's where things fall apart...
6, 7, 8

Gets food with friends? (Where? When? With whom? Where did we even get this idea-- the iffy article? If so, do we trust it?)

Apartment with friends? (to verify, consider what kind of evidence they'd need. DNA type stuff, like hair, wouldn't be enough-- too transferable. Even a phone ping wouldn't be enough-- could've been someone else using her phone. They'd need security footage (which there may be, at least in the parking lot) or photos (from iphones or some other tamper-proof time/date recording device) and the photos would have to depict something identifiable to the apartment in the background. The strongest evidence in this case would need to be tangible, not testimonial, since the credibility of the friends is on the iffy side because of previous transgressions with the law.

Departs apartment on foot to parking garage? (When? With whom? At what functional capacity?)

And then:
9. Enters parking garage (And???)

 

[Jjalexander]

:goodpost: Okay, I'm glad I'm not the only who thought that the guy in the video sort of attached himself to Christina early on or late on depending if it was 11 p.m. or 1 a.m. in a weirdo magnet way and she couldn't shake him. So, in the evening into the morning as she was also having a spat with her boyfriend, she used that as an excuse to get away from creepy guy at 3:30 a.m. For future reference I will no longer refer to the get together as a "party" or "night out with the girls", as I too believe it was more my "BF is cheating on me and I'm gonna hang out with some friends and drink a bit and feel better" (insert a couple of lines of Linda Rondstadt blasting out Poor Poor Pitiful Me) And who should show up but the creepy guy she can't shake!

http://youtu.be/srpwqf2MWAw

I agree. I speculate creepy guy has/had a crush on her. I also feel like creepy guy is a drug dealer and family is from Mexico. Im confused why he was the last known person with her and LE will not discuss him. Why is the family not making LE get onto creepy guy???

 

[CookieM]

Go back to Thread One, 9/5 at 9:33pm post #310
Might be the start of info you all were looking for.... nudge nudge wink wink

 

[txyorkiemom]

Timeline, just to keep it fresh in our memories:

Friday, 8/29/14:

1. At work (location?) until (time?) - could be verified from the boss of GE, who has been active on the PPD fb page.

2. Preparation to come to Plano/The Shops - unverifiable, unless access to text messages with friends she planned to meet (example-- "I need to shower, straighten my hair, xyz, and then I'm on my way")

3. Travel time to come to Plano/The Shops (which could be verified via NTTA on the SRT-- very unlikely that she'd take any other route if it was a direct Ft. Worth-to-Plano trip and there was no NEED to avoid cameras (as we suspect perp may have)

4. Arrival to parking garage (could be verified with cams)

5. Arrival to Henry's (are there cams there? If not, presence could be confirmed via bar-tab credit card, etc, or license scan, depending...)


Here's where things fall apart...
6, 7, 8

Gets food with friends? (Where? When? With whom? Where did we even get this idea-- the iffy article? If so, do we trust it?)

Apartment with friends? (to verify, consider what kind of evidence they'd need. DNA type stuff, like hair, wouldn't be enough-- too transferable. Even a phone ping wouldn't be enough-- could've been someone else using her phone. They'd need security footage (which there may be, at least in the parking lot) or photos (from iphones or some other tamper-proof time/date recording device) and the photos would have to depict something identifiable to the apartment in the background. The strongest evidence in this case would need to be tangible, not testimonial, since the credibility of the friends is on the iffy side because of previous transgressions with the law.

Departs apartment on foot to parking garage? (When? With whom? At what functional capacity?)

And then:
9. Enters parking garage (And???)

Pretty much sums it up on the legalities !!!

The strongest evidence in this case would need to be tangible, not testimonial, since the credibility of the friends is on the iffy side because of previous transgressions with the law.

this says it all !!!

Cowgirls Don't Cry ... Ride Baby Ride !!!
Lessons in Life

 

[Agent.Veritas]

Pretty much sums it up on the legalities !!!

The strongest evidence in this case would need to be tangible, not testimonial, since the credibility of the friends is on the iffy side because of previous transgressions with the law.

this says it all !!!

Cowgirls Don't Cry ... Ride Baby Ride !!!
Lessons in Life

Now I'm going to have the Tom Russell "Tonight We Ride" song stuck in my head (which, by the way, you should not listen to with two toddlers in the car, I learned the hard way!)

 

[CookieM]

Pretty much sums it up on the legalities !!!

The strongest evidence in this case would need to be tangible, not testimonial, since the credibility of the friends is on the iffy side because of previous transgressions with the law.

this says it all !!!

Cowgirls Don't Cry ... Ride Baby Ride !!!
Lessons in Life

Which also explains why the fiends are keeping quiet. What's that saying "When you point your finger at someone three more point back at you"
I think that info they might need to share could cause them some problems. It's not that simple as telling what CM was doing or involved in if you are doing the same thing. And maybe in their mind, it isn't going to "bring her back" so why get yourself in trouble with the law ....or with some people that might size you for cement shoes and take you for a swim in Lake Texoma???
*not saying this is the right way to think, so you don't have to argue how they should be sharing info, I'm just saying that's how I see this group thinking.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Now I'm going to have the Tom Russell "Tonight We Ride" song stuck in my head (which, by the way, you should not listen to with two toddlers in the car, I learned the hard way!)

Joe Ely version of Gallo de Ciello too!!

 

[txyorkiemom]

Which also explains why the fiends are keeping quiet. What's that saying "When you point your finger at someone three more point back at you"
I think that info they might need to share could cause them some problems. It's not that simple as telling what CM was doing or involved in if you are doing the same thing. And maybe in their mind, it isn't going to "bring her back" so why get yourself in trouble with the law ....or with some people that might size you for cement shoes and take you for a swim in Lake Texoma???
*not saying this is the right way to think, so you don't have to argue how they should be sharing info, I'm just saying that's how I see this group thinking.

That is so TRUE COOKIE !!!!!!!

This is what I am saying ... TV shows and vigils are good to a point ..but in this case ..there will be no closure or recovery.

 

[Agent.Veritas]

Which also explains why the fiends are keeping quiet. What's that saying "When you point your finger at someone three more point back at you"
I think that info they might need to share could cause them some problems. It's not that simple as telling what CM was doing or involved in if you are doing the same thing. And maybe in their mind, it isn't going to "bring her back" so why get yourself in trouble with the law ....or with some people that might size you for cement shoes and take you for a swim in Lake Texoma???
*not saying this is the right way to think, so you don't have to argue how they should be sharing info, I'm just saying that's how I see this group thinking.

Fiends, ha! Love those freudian-slip fingers.
You've presented many good points here.
I concur on all counts.

 

[CookieM]

Fiends, ha! Love those freudian-slip fingers.
You've presented many good points here.
I concur on all counts.

Dang it... and I'm usually such a good editor, too....
You know come to think of it, I'm not even editing it because I find it sort of fitting. I still think it is the saddest thing ever that all these people can say "o m geeee she was our best friend, she was always there for us, she'd do anything for us, etc etc" and yet FOUR freaking days passed and they ALL just shrugged it off.
To contrast: One time, I was down in the dumps about some stupid break up and my friends were texting and calling and honestly I didn't even want to respond because I just wanted to wallow in my self pity. After about two hours of not answering any texts or calls one of my gfs texted and said "I'm not sure if you are avoiding everyone, but if you don't just respond to this text in the next 15 minutes to say 'I'm okay', I'm sending so and so (mutual guy friend) to your apartment to break your door down." The mutual guy friend then texted and asked wth was going on because my other friend was worried about me.
Needless to say I responded so they didn't have to break my door down. But my point is: THAT is what her friends should have been doing. I mean, good Lord, if she didn't have a job how long would it have been before anyone reported her missing????

 

[Jazz]

Dang it... and I'm usually such a good editor, too....
You know come to think of it, I'm not even editing it because I find it sort of fitting. I still think it is the saddest thing ever that all these people can say "o m geeee she was our best friend, she was always there for us, she'd do anything for us, etc etc" and yet FOUR freaking days passed and they ALL just shrugged it off.
To contrast: One time, I was down in the dumps about some stupid break up and my friends were texting and calling and honestly I didn't even want to respond because I just wanted to wallow in my self pity. After about two hours of not answering any texts or calls one of my gfs texted and said "I'm not sure if you are avoiding everyone, but if you don't just respond to this text in the next 15 minutes to say 'I'm okay', I'm sending so and so (mutual guy friend) to your apartment to break your door down." The mutual guy friend then texted and asked wth was going on because my other friend was worried about me.
Needless to say I responded so they didn't have to break my door down. But my point is: THAT is what her friends should have been doing. I mean, good Lord, if she didn't have a job how long would it have been before anyone reported her missing????

Well I have a two day rule. If I call or email and do not here back in two days, I leave them a warning that I am going to start calling everyone they know and put out the word they are missing. I always hear from them after that. If you remember, Mom said she had been texting for two days, and her girlfriend called her mom after two days and they compared notes and that they had not heard from Christina in two days. Then boss called and said Christina had not shown up for work for two days. So I think a lot of people have a two day rule, before they freak out.

 

[Cortne]

Go back to Thread One, 9/5 at 9:33pm post #310
Might be the start of info you all were looking for.... nudge nudge wink wink

Hmmmmmmmmm

winky winky

 

[txyorkiemom]

Dang it... and I'm usually such a good editor, too....
You know come to think of it, I'm not even editing it because I find it sort of fitting. I still think it is the saddest thing ever that all these people can say "o m geeee she was our best friend, she was always there for us, she'd do anything for us, etc etc" and yet FOUR freaking days passed and they ALL just shrugged it off.
To contrast: One time, I was down in the dumps about some stupid break up and my friends were texting and calling and honestly I didn't even want to respond because I just wanted to wallow in my self pity. After about two hours of not answering any texts or calls one of my gfs texted and said "I'm not sure if you are avoiding everyone, but if you don't just respond to this text in the next 15 minutes to say 'I'm okay', I'm sending so and so (mutual guy friend) to your apartment to break your door down." The mutual guy friend then texted and asked wth was going on because my other friend was worried about me.
Needless to say I responded so they didn't have to break my door down. But my point is: THAT is what her friends should have been doing. I mean, good Lord, if she didn't have a job how long would it have been before anyone reported her missing????

Exactly !!!! :clap::clap::clap:

I am about sick of the excuses!!!! Around my family the saying is ... Excuses are like ___ holes .Everyone's got 1 and they both stink.

" Oh her phone was always off..hhehehehehehehe... I bought her a charger for Christmas for her car , I think she lost that to.hehehehehehe"

And this same type of commentary is going to turn the general public off!!

Honestly at this point , If Mom got on there and got REAL with the public, to let them know what the honest "411" was. I would begin to think even the criminals and street thugs would come out to find her.

 

[CookieM]

Well I have a two day rule. If I call or email and do not here back in two days, I leave them a warning that I am going to start calling everyone they know and put out the word they are missing. I always hear from them after that. If you remember, Mom said she had been texting for two days, and her girlfriend called her mom after two days and they compared notes and that they had not heard from Christina in two days. Then boss called and said Christina had not shown up for work for two days. So I think a lot of people have a two day rule, before they freak out.

I see what you are saying. I guess I just communicate more often with my friends/family. It does just depend on her communication pattern, really. But for me, personally, even if I didn't communicate that often, if my live in luvah said they were coming home and had no keys but never showed up for four days I'd be a little curious as to where they were. And even if we had gotten into a fight (which mom says was a "little argument" but nothing to disappear over), I'd think wow I'm kindof worried and since I love this person sooooo much I should check into this since it's been one, two, three, four days.... just saying.