GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #6 *Arrest*

[Doj1234]

Exactly !!!! :clap::clap::clap:

I am about sick of the excuses!!!! Around my family the saying is ... Excuses are like ___ holes .Everyone's got 1 and they both stink.

" Oh her phone was always off..hhehehehehehehe... I bought her a charger for Christmas for her car , I think she lost that to.hehehehehehe"

And this same type of commentary is going to turn the general public off!!

Honestly at this point , If Mom got on there and got REAL with the public, to let them know what the honest "411" was. I would begin to think even the criminals and street thugs would come out to find her.

WS is victim friendly and Mom is certainly a victim here, so I'll be very general. But, PPD and friends may be taking their lead from Mom. It's possible that Mom has communicated that she doesn't want derogatory information on CM in public. There may be uncertainty from friends to come forward with information that casts CM in a 'less than angelic' light. If so, EVERYONE (friends, family, PPD) need to realize that it's been a month almost, there has been NO progress and it's time to worry less about reputation and more on answers.

 

[CookieM]

WS is victim friendly and Mom is certainly a victim here, so I'll be very general. But, PPD and friends may be taking their lead from Mom. It's possible that Mom has communicated that she doesn't want derogatory information on CM in public. There may be uncertainty from friends to come forward with information that casts CM in a 'less than angelic' light. If so, EVERYONE (friends, family, PPD) need to realize that it's been a month almost, there has been NO progress and it's time to worry less about reputation and more on answers.

Yes, even on this thread I feel like we have gotten very close to exhausting the analysis of every detail we know or think we know. We've come up with pretty much every possible scenario and it has gotten to the point that we are just going in circles. It's hard to keep rehashing when we really don't know all the info, but I keep telling myself that even a blind squirrel can find an acorn.

 

[txyorkiemom]

WS is victim friendly and Mom is certainly a victim here, so I'll be very general. But, PPD and friends may be taking their lead from Mom. It's possible that Mom has communicated that she doesn't want derogatory information on CM in public. There may be uncertainty from friends to come forward with information that casts CM in a 'less than angelic' light. If so, EVERYONE (friends, family, PPD) need to realize that it's been a month almost, there has been NO progress and it's time to worry less about reputation and more on answers.

Actually I am a bit insulted by your assertion that I am not being "victim" friendly !!
The blunt fact is that there are no credible leads on this disappearance of a 23 yr old female. The other fact is LE has stated there is NO Evidence of any crime.
It is my observation that the giggling friends on video and as detailed in the article is not motivating anyone to come forward.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Yes, even on this thread I feel like we have gotten very close to exhausting the analysis of every detail we know or think we know. We've come up with pretty much every possible scenario and it has gotten to the point that we are just going in circles. It's hard to keep rehashing when we really don't know all the info, but I keep telling myself that even a blind squirrel can find an acorn.

Or at least trip over a nut !!

 

[Doj1234]

Actually I am a bit insulted by your assertion that I am not being "victim" friendly !!
The blunt fact is that there are no credible leads on this disappearance of a 23 yr old female. The other fact is LE has stated there is NO Evidence of any crime.
It is my observation that the giggling friends on video and as detailed in the article is not motivating anyone to come forward.

Actually, I wasn't commenting on you at all, quit being sensitive. And how would anyone know if there are any credible leads? Neither you or I do.

 

[Bootsctr]

I am in no way insinuating that mom is not a victim in this case; however, I get txyorkiemom's point because when I watched the video of the boyfriend, HF, talking/crying/sniffling/mumbling when he said something to the effect that if he had been there this wouldn't have happened and then mumbling he couldn't do this camera video, mom was in the background and was saying that's enough pull him out, take him off the air, etc. I got the feeling that BF was going to say something to the effect Christina wouldn't have OD'd if he had been there (purely speculation -maybe he was going to say she wouldn't have been abducted or had to ride with the weirdo guy stuck to Christina's side), but he was going to spill the beans about something that mom did not want aired publicly because she interrupted the interview at that point. I wished she had let him continue to talk.

In a way I almost feel like the mom did a 90 degree turn on the BF from wanting to know why he waited so long to report Christina missing to BF did not do this, it was just a lil ole boyfriend girlfriend spat didn't mean nothing, he's innocent.... Why? Is he blackmailing/holding mom hostage ..... as in stop harping on the fact I didn't report her missing or I'll tell everyone what Christina does for fun behind the scenes... just my :twocents: and :cow: and :moo:

And that doesn't make mom guilty of anything other than being a mom and loving her kid and wanting to protect her, but it's a month later and it's time to bring Christina home and time to open up as to some possibilities as to what else could have happened besides a random abduction or a hostage situation. Honestly, I'm not feeling either of those two possibilities at this moment. Give me 10 minutes and my mind might change again. eace:

 

[TCMom]

JMO, but I believe that Mom (and family) and many of her friends are definitely victims. And I think criticizing them (or declaring it is hinky) for not noticing she was missing for 4 days because they don't keep tabs on her every single day is not cool. Especially given that a few of those friends (we don't know which ones) weren't even there that night.

My closest friends, I haven't spoken to (I just checked my text history) since last Wednesday (one) and 9/12 (the other) - for no reason other than that we're all busy. I speak to my mother every day but there was a time in my life that I didn't speak to her nearly as frequently. My husband talks to his parents once a week at the most - sometimes he goes 2 weeks at a time without talking to them. I think it's impossible to know communication frequencies for Christina.

Again, JMO.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Actually, I wasn't commenting on you at all, quit being sensitive. And how would anyone know if there are any credible leads? Neither you or I do.

Honestly, If you were not ... then you should have posted a solo post. Thanks
My sensitivity spans over 700 posts alone dedicated just on this mysterious disappearance; coupled with the complete dynamics and legalities.
TES themselves have stated in the media about the credibility of the leads as well as Tilley the ppd pio.
I am more than sure that you can pull all the media vids and press releases to confirm.

 

[Bootsctr]

Thank you CookieM. Found a nut! Bringing forth vi13's comment from 09/05/2014 at 0933 hours, post #310:

"Hi all, I've been anxiously waiting to contribute to this thread and finally was approved by the mods.

I am an old friend of Christina's. We used to hang out a lot back in the day and I saw her randomly at school after we lost touch. I am in shock because I ran into her the night she went missing. What are the chances of that? I hadn't seen her in almost three years prior.

I got to the Shops a little after 11pm and I actually saw her walking from the same garage as me near Henry's. At the time, I didn't know it was her, but I remember her flowy outfit. She walked into Henry's right before me with two girls.

I want to say around 11:30 or 12, we saw each other near the bar near the patio. We were catching up a bit when two guys approached us. One talked to me and the other to her. The one talking to me said, "I see you're not holding a drink!" I replied, "It's over there on the table." I can't remember what else he said, but I didn't want them talking to us so I told him my boyfriend was right behind him (he really was). The guy was a smart and said, "Oh, do you want me to meet him?" This whole time, I didn't hear anything the other guy said to Christina. After his smart remark, the conversation went flat and Christina said, "I'm going back to my friends." I gave her a huge hug and whispered in her ear, "Those guys are so annoying!" And she said, "I know!" We parted ways and said our goodbyes.

I texted her mom and told her the gist of this small ordeal. Is this really significant? Most likely not, but I figured anything helps to retrace some steps. I truly think that this was not a random person and that someone she knows was involved. But the tiny chance this is significant, I'd want it to be known.

I really don't think she would have driven home drunk. Christina is really responsible and I truly have nothing bad to say about her. When we were closer, she worked a lot. I'm pretty sure she paid her way through college herself, which is impressive for someone that graduated from a great university on time.

There was no signs she was distressed about anything. She seemed happy and normal.

Not only does this hit close to home because she is a friend, but for those that don't know her, this is crazy to happen in Plano. Plano is one of the safest cities in the country! The Shops are a common hang out for Plano folks and has always felt safe. I can't tell you how many times I've driven there alone and met up with friends and walked back to my car alone.

It's been a week and I'm scared, anxious and obsessed with this right now, to be honest. I just want her home safe."

 

[CookieM]

JMO, but I believe that Mom (and family) and many of her friends are definitely victims. And I think criticizing them (or declaring it is hinky) for not noticing she was missing for 4 days because they don't keep tabs on her every single day is not cool. Especially given that a few of those friends (we don't know which ones) weren't even there that night.

My closest friends, I haven't spoken to (I just checked my text history) since last Wednesday (one) and 9/12 (the other) - for no reason other than that we're all busy. I speak to my mother every day but there was a time in my life that I didn't speak to her nearly as frequently. My husband talks to his parents once a week at the most - sometimes he goes 2 weeks at a time without talking to them. I think it's impossible to know communication frequencies for Christina.

Again, JMO.

You are right. Point well taken. [modsnip]

 

[Bootsctr]

I concur about not being in contact with mom for 4 days in no way constitutes mom being a bad mother. Christina might have chosen not to answer the phone even if her mother had called. They have an app for that now - you don't answer your mom and your phone gets shut down - can only call home or 911. Great app! I'm saying let's get down to the nut cracking and why said friends and BF didn't report her missing after 4 days and that it was Christina's boss that had to call to say "Where's Christina? She hasn't shown up for work in 1 or 2 (I'm not clear on this detail EITHER after a MONTH) days?"

 

[Bootsctr]

Yep, case solved! I'm done and out!

 

[txyorkiemom]

You are right. Point well taken. [modsnip]

Ya know Cookie that is a great idea ... Check Please!!!! At this point random abduction is good enough for me! But on the other hand .. I say she walked away. There is not anything anyone can do or say ..she is 23 and a grown adult. That is her choice and none of my business any longer.

 

[TCMom]

Nothing odd about this case at all. Must've been a random abduction. In which case after a month, all they will be lucky to find is a body, and the perp will be long gone. No point in questioning anyone further or wanting additional details since there must not be any. There we go. Case closed. Whew. I'm glad that's over. Now I can get back to my neglected housework.

Nothing in my post insinuated or implied this at all. I was an active member of the search parties and got poison ivy from it - I hope that no one closes the case on it until she's found. I just put myself in the place of her mother or her friends who weren't even around that day / weekend and would be horrified to be criticized for not realizing something was amiss. It's not fair to those folks who truly had nothing to do with it.

 

[txyorkiemom]

I concur about not being in contact with mom for 4 days in no way constitutes mom being a bad mother. Christina might have chosen not to answer the phone even if her mother had called. They have an app for that now - you don't answer your mom and your phone gets shut down - can only call home or 911. Great app! I'm saying let's get down to the nut cracking and why said friends and BF didn't report her missing after 4 days and that it was Christina's boss that had to call to say "Where's Christina? She hasn't shown up for work in 1 or 2 (I'm not clear on this detail EITHER after a MONTH) days?"

Im telling you .. she decided to walk away and start a new life somewhere else.
I do not see a case here.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Nothing in my post insinuated or implied this at all. I was an active member of the search parties and got poison ivy from it - I hope that no one closes the case on it until she's found. I just put myself in the place of her mother or her friends who weren't even around that day / weekend and would be horrified to be criticized for not realizing something was amiss. It's not fair to those folks who truly had nothing to do with it.

Yes , but it is also not fair to Christina or her Mom (as I have stated on many occasions here) for her circle of friends to NOT tell EVERYTHING legal or not legal to find her. The mom(parents/immediate family too) deserve closure today.

 

[Jazz]

I am sure girlfriends and everyone with her that night believe that the "walker" abducted her. How do you come out and say that to press? I am sure these girls are afraid they are next, as would I. I would keep quiet as well. I feel confident they expressed this to Plano PD, who at this point, don't have enough evidence for an arrest.

 

[Salem]

Can someone point me to the MSM that says the friends aren't talking to Law Enforcement, please? I think I missed that article. My understanding was that the friends are not considered POIs and that LE did not have a reason to give any of them a poly at this time. Has that changed? Where is the idea that the friends are not talking coming from?

Thanks,

Salem

 

[txyorkiemom]

Can someone point me to the MSM that says the friends aren't talking to Law Enforcement, please? I think I missed that article. My understanding was that the friends are not considered POIs and that LE did not have a reason to give any of them a poly at this time. Has that changed? Where is the idea that the friends are not talking coming from?

Thanks,

Salem

Salem,

What we are saying is based on our observations that friends of this case may know much much more than what has been said or not said . There are too many inconsistencies leading up to and accounting of time and exactly who,what and where.
What we all seem to agree on here , is that good bad ,right or wrong that can help find the missing and give closure for her family that is what is needed more than everything else.

No one ever said here that her friends were POI's We are commenting on what has been released in the media and news vids regarding the disappearance. Just from our own observations .

 

[Doj1234]

Im telling you .. she decided to walk away and start a new life somewhere else.
I do not see a case here.

I was in a hurry above and maybe wasn't as clear as I could have been. But, ya know....I'm FOR SURE with you here. Noone has really provided credible information or proof of a crime, so I'm moving on too until new, reliable information is available as well. I'll make one last effort by going to Henry's to get a cold one this week and maybe the bartender has something, lol.