Found Alive TX - Christine Woo (fnd dec'd), 39, & 3 kids, Frisco, 28 March 2016

  • #501
I just read abut Broken Heart Syndrome! Same exact thing!

But this woman Went to Walgreens then Went to Mcdonalds.
Parked her car Put up the Shield on the windshield...
If there was some medical emergency I'm sure she could have opend the door and yelled for help Or the oldest would have.
IMO she waited for the babies to fall asleep after giving sleeping tablets once they fell aslpeep she took hers... The children llater woke up
and sat there waiting for mom to wake up....

I think MOM was depressed and decided to take her life and believed the kids would not do well without her sooo...
I am very happy the children survived....And like I have said since day one I really believe the children were asleep for a quite a while
And this is the only reason they survived so long in that car.

All JMVOO
Medical emergencies don't always give you the option for opening doors, calling for help, attracting attention ... your theory may be correct but I'm pretty sure that if she were going to murder her children and then commit suicide, she would make sure her children were dead or at least certain to die before killing herself.
 
  • #502
I mean, how do we know she didn't honk her horn? Just because it wasn't reported? I don't report every horn honk I hear.


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  • #503
Does anyone know updates on the children or at least if no longer critical on the youngest? I think she suffered postpartum depression and was overwhelmed with life stressors and choose to take her own life.
 
  • #504
Hope we'll have COD soon and the praying the children recover without lingering effects.
 
  • #505
Medical emergencies don't always give you the option for opening doors, calling for help, attracting attention ... your theory may be correct but I'm pretty sure that if she were going to murder her children and then commit suicide, she would make sure her children were dead or at least certain to die before killing herself.

I agree. Sudden death is possible. She might not have had time to ask for help. I do find it suspicious that there were apparently shades placed on the front window. Sounds like she didn't want people to see inside.
 
  • #506
I agree. Sudden death is possible. She might not have had time to ask for help. I do find it suspicious that there were apparently shades placed on the front window. Sounds like she didn't want people to see inside.
If they were sitting eating in the car might she not have put the shades on the windscreen so they weren't blinded by the sun? Or put them up if they would soon be getting out of the car to try and keep the heat down for when they returned to the car? If you're going to kill yourself and your kids surely you'd go off somewhere and not do it in a busy car park? I guess with very gentle questioning, the kids may be old enough to give some clues- was mummy crying? Was mummy cross? Did mummy feel poorly? Etc ...
 
  • #507
I don't think they will get much information out of the kids. Oldest is only five. As for shades, presumably it's not so hot yet that one would need them to keep down the heat. If it were that hot, kids wouldn't have survived for days in the car.
 
  • #508
I don't think they will get much information out of the kids. Oldest is only five. As for shades, presumably it's not so hot yet that one would need them to keep down the heat. If it were that hot, kids wouldn't have survived for days in the car.

I don't know. I teach kindergarten and my kiddos are generally five to six, (which yes is slightly older than the youngest) but I have also taught pre-k. You would be very very surprised what they can and will say. I had a student tell me, her daddy painted her mommy with paint and lotion so they could have the baby fairy visit. Clearly the child didn't have the "specifics", and was told a story in order to make it sound better for a child. Mom and dad had no intentions of her repeating the story. I have also had a student who could tell me every single time his mom got hit, where she was injured and how long he had to "hide". So I hope that they were able to get some useful information from her, even if it was a minimal amount or piecing it together.


Eta: sorry do we know for sure that LE didn't place the shades on the windshield? Or perhaps she had a routine of just putting up the shade and did it out of habit?
 
  • #509
What an awful story. I think that unless the oldest was sleeping, they will get information from her.
 
  • #510
What an awful story. I think that unless the oldest was sleeping, they will get information from her.

I was assuming the oldest would be able to give some info as well...but now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps the mom gave a sedative to the kids and waited for them to get sleepy before doing anything to herself. Perhaps she thought they would be discovered soon enough, but wouldn't have a memory of her dying. Or, perhaps she thought they would fall asleep and pass away in the heat of the enclosed car.

I DO NOT KNOW if she did indeed give anything to her kid or if she took her own life - this is pondering and speculation while we await tox reports. (We may never know if she gave anything to her kids as that might be considered private info not to be released to the public, idk.)

JMOpinion
 
  • #511
With all the talk about Benadryl (Diphenhydramine), that's what is in all OTC sleep aids, even in Tylenol PM and such.
I take 8 Benadryl a day to ward off the itchies from my Dilaudid. I buy mine from Amazon and get 1200 pills because it's very convenient and much cheaper.

I have been taking Benadryl for so long I could take a handful and drive across country without getting sleepy. Crazy I know.

Godspeed Christine and my condolences to those precious babies and Mr Woo.
 
  • #512
O.k., this is an aside... I am not that tall, so I understand being petite, but don't climb on shelves. We had a woman hurt very badly at a store I worked at. Store shelves may look sturdier than they are. This is a store with annoyingly tall shelves, so I can understand her frustration. But, she was hurt really, really badly.
 
  • #513
With all the talk about Benadryl (Diphenhydramine), that's what is in all OTC sleep aids, even in Tylenol PM and such.
I take 8 Benadryl a day to ward off the itchies from my Dilaudid. I buy mine from Amazon and get 1200 pills because it's very convenient and much cheaper.

I have been taking Benadryl for so long I could take a handful and drive across country without getting sleepy. Crazy I know.

Godspeed Christine and my condolences to those precious babies and Mr Woo.

Benadryl had the opposite effect on my son and caused him to be hyper. I found this out when he came down with chicken-pox.
 
  • #514
With all the talk about Benadryl (Diphenhydramine), that's what is in all OTC sleep aids, even in Tylenol PM and such.
I take 8 Benadryl a day to ward off the itchies from my Dilaudid. I buy mine from Amazon and get 1200 pills because it's very convenient and much cheaper.

I have been taking Benadryl for so long I could take a handful and drive across country without getting sleepy. Crazy I know.

Godspeed Christine and my condolences to those precious babies and Mr Woo.

Thanks for the info about Benadryl and Amazon!! I prefer to buy in bulk too.
 
  • #515
I just read abut Broken Heart Syndrome! Same exact thing!

But this woman Went to Walgreens then Went to Mcdonalds.
Parked her car Put up the Shield on the windshield...
If there was some medical emergency I'm sure she could have opend the door and yelled for help Or the oldest would have.
IMO she waited for the babies to fall asleep after giving sleeping tablets once they fell aslpeep she took hers... The children llater woke up
and sat there waiting for mom to wake up....

I think MOM was depressed and decided to take her life and believed the kids would not do well without her sooo...
I am very happy the children survived....And like I have said since day one I really believe the children were asleep for a quite a while
And this is the only reason they survived so long in that car.

All JMVOO

Okay, I have definitely heard of Broken Heart Syndrome. Type that in Cardiologist reports all the time, and echocardiograms can find it.

"Scientific findings accumulated over the past 25 years seem to support the notion that a real-life broken heart can lead to subsequent heart problems. “Broken heart syndrome”, also known as stress-induced cardiomyopathy or Takotsubo cardiomyopathy, was first described in 1990 in Japan and has recently been globally recognized as a real medical condition.'

I thought I had it at one time... But it was related to the death of my son. I wonder if Christine had suffered a death of someone she was really close to (the article says it is related to the death of a spouse, but I disagree and believe it could even be from the death of a close friend or child... Takotsubo cardiomyopathy.
 
  • #516
I was assuming the oldest would be able to give some info as well...but now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps the mom gave a sedative to the kids and waited for them to get sleepy before doing anything to herself. Perhaps she thought they would be discovered soon enough, but wouldn't have a memory of her dying. Or, perhaps she thought they would fall asleep and pass away in the heat of the enclosed car.

I DO NOT KNOW if she did indeed give anything to her kid or if she took her own life - this is pondering and speculation while we await tox reports. (We may never know if she gave anything to her kids as that might be considered private info not to be released to the public, idk.)

JMOpinion

This is my working theory too! The temperatures were cooler that week than the next too.
 
  • #517
Okay, I have definitely heard of Broken Heart Syndrome. Type that in Cardiologist reports all the time, and echocardiograms can find it.

"Scientific findings accumulated over the past 25 years seem to support the notion that a real-life broken heart can lead to subsequent heart problems. “Broken heart syndrome”, also known as stress-induced cardiomyopathy or Takotsubo cardiomyopathy, was first described in 1990 in Japan and has recently been globally recognized as a real medical condition.'

I thought I had it at one time... But it was related to the death of my son. I wonder if Christine had suffered a death of someone she was really close to (the article says it is related to the death of a spouse, but I disagree and believe it could even be from the death of a close friend or child... Takotsubo cardiomyopathy.
What about end of a relationship?
That might be like a death.
Im not saying this happened here but I FEEL this might be the case.
Jmo
 
  • #518
What about end of a relationship?
That might be like a death.
Im not saying this happened here but I FEEL this might be the case.
Jmo
Good thought! Relationship troubles at home could definitely push someone over the edge. I wish the sleuther who said they go to the family's church would tell us if baby is improving or not. I keep them in my prayers especially the baby that was critical.
 
  • #519
Please let us know how you are doing when you get a chance. If I can help in any way let me know!! Stay Safe
 
  • #520
Benadryl had the opposite effect on my son and caused him to be hyper. I found this out when he came down with chicken-pox.

Fabvap, I take after my father, he had all kinds of problems with meds. They would reverse effect on him and I have the same problem.
I am bipolar, cannot take the meds I need because they cause me to try and commit suicide, every darn one I have ever tried. I finally got so tired of being so crazy I quit cold turkey in 2002 and I was a new person and the suicide feelings went away. Of course during my crazy period starting mid 90's my mum insisted I needed head meds and that is what started this crap in the first place.
Not one shrink diagnosed me correctly, I was everything but bipolar and it almost killed me many many times.
At one time I was on 9 different meds I did not need. I am bipolar with severe PTSD with anxiety. Now, with all my chronic pain problems I cannot take the correct meds for my nerve pain because lyrica and the like cause the same response, suicide plus I even tried to kill my DH. I will never look at another lyrica again. I am tired of the mania and constant mood swings and no sleep.

Boots, I pray you are alright and safe. You are in my thoughts. I haven't read the whole thread yet but I will.
 

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