TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #6

[scruffydog]

Just my own opinion, but I don't think the whole cosplay subject is even a part of this murder. I'd be absolutely shocked if the answer isn't close to home.

 

[x_files]

The driving around after the murder is so strange, especially the part about Sandusky Drive.

After the murder, this person decided to turn around to drive back past the Barraza's house, supposedly to make sure Elizabeth Barraza was dead. They do not seem to slow down much. Then they keep going all the way down Sandusky Drive passing another home surveillance camera at the corner they were supposed to turn left at to get back to Kuykendahl Road.

Instead though, this person in the truck got to the cul-de-sac at the end of Sandusky Drive and decided to go off-road into the grass. Even though they could not find their way out of the subdivision on the road, they somehow got lucky and were able to drive through grass and then merge back onto Kuykendahl Road. How they knew this exit point, but not a regular road is strange.

At the time the crime happened, even if they got to a dead end cul-de-sac, it would have been much smarter to just turn around to go back to the road you missed. Going off road into a neighbor's back yard is certainly going to be way more suspicious, in my opinion.

Even the motives behind the driving are strange, especially when you consider the Nissan Frontier Pro-4X truck was in the area hours earlier driving around the subdivision. Whoever it was, this person seems like they have a very unique way of looking at things.

In a picture, it looks like Elizabeth Barraza has a dog leash for walking the dog. What if she did not have a bag to pick up dog waste and some neighbor got angry at her. I know it sounds incredible to theorize that someone would commit murder over something like that, but with the way this person acts during the commission of the crime I have come to the conclusion that the murderer knows they are getting rid of the Nissan Frontier Pro-4X and wants to be seen by others for some reason.

I think the reason someone would want it to appear this way to others is because it makes it look like the murderer is a stranger not familiar with the Tomball neighborhood where Elizabeth Barraza lived.

It crossed my mind she may have an insane neighbor who took umbrage with EB over breaking a rule.
The neighbor isn't mentally stable is a control freak and doesn't like garage sales. It makes ZERO sense to me but it might trigger someone who has control issues and is volatile.
If the shooter does live close by I would guess someone knows she/he has an explosive controlling temper over perceived slights: bad drivers, garage sales, dog waste etc...Who is in charge of Neighbor Watch?

 

[arielilane]

So here we’re quickly approaching the five year mark, and no arrest(s), yet! However, keeping the faith and hope alive. Liz deserves justice.

Imo, LE, investigators, have got this, and it's only a matter of time. There is no perfect crime.


It's been nearly a month since the dash cam footage was released.

New video shows raw moments shortly after Tomball woman killed in her driveway nearly 5 years ago

Nearly five years later, Liz Barraza's murder remains unsolved despite a $50,000 reward. She was gunned down while setting up a garage sale in her Tomball driveway nearly five years ago.

abc13.com

December 8, 2023

"I hope police just have something they're holding onto and getting ready to snap their jaws around it," Sergio said.

 

[Otterplop]

So here we’re quickly approaching the five year mark, and no arrest(s), yet! However, keeping the faith and hope alive. Liz deserves justice.

Imo, LE, investigators, have got this, and it's only a matter of time. There is no perfect crime.


It's been nearly a month since the dash cam footage was released.

New video shows raw moments shortly after Tomball woman killed in her driveway nearly 5 years ago

Nearly five years later, Liz Barraza's murder remains unsolved despite a $50,000 reward. She was gunned down while setting up a garage sale in her Tomball driveway nearly five years ago.

abc13.com

December 8, 2023

"I hope police just have something they're holding onto and getting ready to snap their jaws around it," Sergio said.

Yes! I've been checking the news about her every single day since this footage was released. I do believe LE knows who did this/who all was involved. They might be tying up some loose ends and getting it ready before making an arrest or multiple. I imagine LE do not want to risk anything not convincing a jury of who is guilty, so they want this to be as damning as possible. That's my hope at least! And the movement and coverage on this as of recently, imo/moo, is indicative of LE closing in.

 

[arielilane]

I know license plate reader technology is not 100%, but curious if LE able to use it in this case?

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[KindMind1ofA]

they somehow got lucky and were able to drive through grass and then merge back onto Kuykendahl Road. How they knew

One compelling theory I've heard about this is that maybe the killer had a police scanner and in listening to the quick response they feared they'd cross paths with first responders if they exited by the normal routes. (and have their plates caught on dash cam, e.g.) so went off road to avoid the police response. This would infer some pre-planning and understanding the layout of the neighborhood.

In any case I don't sign onto the theory that the driver came back to the scene to "make sure she was dead", because, like you mention - they didn't really even slow down as they passed.. they couldn't possibly hope to learn anything about Liz's condition beyond what they already knew..

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

One compelling theory I've heard about this is that maybe the killer had a police scanner and in listening to the quick response they feared they'd cross paths with first responders if they exited by the normal routes. (and have their plates caught on dash cam, e.g.) so went off road to avoid the police response. This would infer some pre-planning and understanding the layout of the neighborhood.

In any case I don't sign onto the theory that the driver came back to the scene to "make sure she was dead", because, like you mention - they didn't really even slow down as they passed.. they couldn't possibly hope to learn anything about Liz's condition beyond what they already knew..

I once did a deep dive into the Silk Road and the dark net, and I recall learning that in hitman situations, a photo of the victim is used to prove that a particular hitman was the one who completed the job. So if that were relevant here, the purpose of driving by again would not be to assess her condition, but rather to snap a quick picture.

 

[FromGermany1]

I once did a deep dive into the Silk Road and the dark net, and I recall learning that in hitman situations, a photo of the victim is used to prove that a particular hitman was the one who completed the job. So if that were relevant here, the purpose of driving by again would not be to assess her condition, but rather to snap a quick picture.

Does it mean, there must have been an accomplice (driver?), who enabled the killer to take photographs out of a driving car?
That the killer didn't return for control, whether Liz was dead or not, that I'm believing also. How should he have proof of it at this distance. 4 shots would have made it, so he could have convinced of himself being successful for the client's pay. IMO

 

[KindMind1ofA]

So if that were relevant here, the purpose of driving by again would not be to assess her condition, but rather to snap a quick picture.

Interesting!

 

[acutename]

The driving around after the murder is so strange, especially the part about Sandusky Drive.

After the murder, this person decided to turn around to drive back past the Barraza's house, supposedly to make sure Elizabeth Barraza was dead. They do not seem to slow down much. Then they keep going all the way down Sandusky Drive passing another home surveillance camera at the corner they were supposed to turn left at to get back to Kuykendahl Road.

Instead though, this person in the truck got to the cul-de-sac at the end of Sandusky Drive and decided to go off-road into the grass. Even though they could not find their way out of the subdivision on the road, they somehow got lucky and were able to drive through grass and then merge back onto Kuykendahl Road. How they knew this exit point, but not a regular road is strange.

At the time the crime happened, even if they got to a dead end cul-de-sac, it would have been much smarter to just turn around to go back to the road you missed. Going off road into a neighbor's back yard is certainly going to be way more suspicious, in my opinion.

Even the motives behind the driving are strange, especially when you consider the Nissan Frontier Pro-4X truck was in the area hours earlier driving around the subdivision. Whoever it was, this person seems like they have a very unique way of looking at things.

In a picture, it looks like Elizabeth Barraza has a dog leash for walking the dog. What if she did not have a bag to pick up dog waste and some neighbor got angry at her. I know it sounds incredible to theorize that someone would commit murder over something like that, but with the way this person acts during the commission of the crime I have come to the conclusion that the murderer knows they are getting rid of the Nissan Frontier Pro-4X and wants to be seen by others for some reason.

I think the reason someone would want it to appear this way to others is because it makes it look like the murderer is a stranger not familiar with the Tomball neighborhood where Elizabeth Barraza lived.

think that the driving around is more likely panic and an overwhelming emotional reaction- which makes it seem as if this was personal and the driving around pre-shooting is an angry person stalking IMO

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

think that the driving around is more likely panic and an overwhelming emotional reaction- which makes it seem as if this was personal and the driving around pre-shooting is an angry person stalking IMO

I think it's quite likely that it was just a mistake or not well thought out decision of some sort caused by the stress and emotions of the situation. But I think that could be equally applicable to someone who did it for personal reasons or someone inexperienced who did it for money.

 

[Duper's Delight]

NEW article and video from local Fox26 Houston...aired last night.
​

Houston unsolved murder approaches 5-year anniversary

The 5 year mark since the murder of Liz Barraza who was getting ready for a garage sale when she was gunned down in front of her Tomball home is days away.

www.fox26houston.com

The bizarre and baffling murder is getting media attention again thanks to her parents. Some recent developments have the couple cautiously optimistic an arrest is coming.

"We've heard that there's new evidence," Rosemary said. "We don't know what that is."

Liz's parents believe detectives are closer to an arrest than they've ever been.

Robert believes Liz's killer was hired. She was shot to death just moments after her husband Sergio left.

"They are literally there at the same time Sergio is leaving," Robert said. "They may have even been behind him at some point."

Why would someone want Liz dead? Police have found nothing in her past to answer that question.

"They can't find any evidence of any infidelity on either part," said Rosemary.

 

[glassheater]

Robert believes Liz's killer was hired.

As Liz's family, I'm sure they are privy to more information than we know. They have been relentlessly pursuing justice for their daughter. I am inclined to go with their theory at this point. I am so sorry they are living through this nightmare. May justice be brought for LB ASAP.

 

[arielilane]

Video is 2+ minutes

Houston murder of Liz Barraza still unsolved years later, parents speak​

The five-year anniversary of one of Houston's most shocking unsolved murder's is just days away. FOX 26's Randy Wallace has more from the parents of 29-year-old Liz Barraza who was getting ready for a garage sale when she was gunned down.


@FOX26Houston

Houston unsolved, shocking murder approaches 5 year anniversary

https://twitter.com/x/status/1743469963954811257

10:10 PM · Jan 5, 2024

 

[Duper's Delight]

ANOTHER from Crime Online...​

‘She deserves justice’: Texas Woman’s Killer Still Not Caught 5 Years After Murder

Rosemary and Robert Nuelle Jr. are once again asking for the public’s help to bring their child’s killer to justice. It tragically has become something of an annual event. For nearly five years, the Texas parents have been without their daughter, Liz Barraza, who was gunned down the morning of...

www.crimeonline.com

Rosemary and Robert Nuelle Jr. are once again asking for the public’s help to bring their child’s killer to justice. It tragically has become something of an annual event.

So far, there have not been any arrests or charges in connection with the case. But the tide may be turning.

A new Harris County Sheriff’s detective has been assigned to investigate Liz’s death, and federal and state agents are also lending a hand.

Robert added: “If they’re willing to drive up in the dark hours of the morning in January and slaughter my beautiful daughter they’re willing to kill anybody.”

 

[lonewanderer]

If it is indeed a male he may be on the small side...or already owned go-go or calf-high boots in his size already.
I laughed about the part that men aren't that clever...
unless EB had an enemy who cross-dresses, or is a drag Queen, or already owns costumes it's possible...the likelihood of it being a woman with long hair in flat calf boots with yoga leggings is much more likely.
I am curious why the cops though they were go-go boots and a WIG.

Did the cops specifically say that?

I ask because there has been some details in this case that seem more like someones observation/opinion.

For instance, I have read in some articles that the killer was holding and old man mask, that they passed Liz a note, or that a man's voice is heard on the ring doorbell audio.

I don't know where the mask thing came from, its really hard to see what the shooter extends in their left hand to Liz, and I don't personally hear any audio on the doorbell camera that sounds like a man.

Our sight and hearing can deceive us at times, and be different from person to person. Just think, the "what color is the dress" meme or "do you hear yanny or laurel" audio clips.

I also think people online run with things in strange directions sometimes. For instance, "the plane lady" with "that (mfer) is NOT real!" never said she saw anything in particular, but a large portion of the comments asked "what did she see!?!" "I want to know what she saw!".

 

[somequestions]

The more I think about it, with as brazen as the crime seems to be and knowing how loud that gun was, it really seems like the motive was very personal to take the chances the killer took. Yet with a motive that seems very personal no one has been able to figure out what the motive was.

Elizabeth Barraza got her degree in psychology. That makes the motive for her murder all the more ironic. Maybe she did some research for a paper and came across someone who came back to murder her?

As for evidence, I only hear two things clearly on the doorbell surveillance video. I hear Elizabeth Barraza say "Good Morning" or "Morning" at 1:13 in the video below, and I hear her scream when the first shot is fired. That is all I hear. I do not even hear Elizabeth Barraza even say another word or even hear the sound of her high-pitched female voice again, even if I cannot make out what she said. The neighbor was very quick acting to be able to get a description of the Nissan Frontier Pro-4X as it was leaving the scene just 17 seconds after the last shot was fired. I do not think the killer knew anything about the doorbell surveillance camera because how could they be sure at that time that their voice would not be picked up by it even if they could try to ensure that their image was not picked up by it?

 

[x_files]

Did the cops specifically say that?

I ask because there has been some details in this case that seem more like someones observation/opinion.

For instance, I have read in some articles that the killer was holding and old man mask, that they passed Liz a note, or that a man's voice is heard on the ring doorbell audio.

I don't know where the mask thing came from, its really hard to see what the shooter extends in their left hand to Liz, and I don't personally hear any audio on the doorbell camera that sounds like a man.

Our sight and hearing can deceive us at times, and be different from person to person. Just think, the "what color is the dress" meme or "do you hear yanny or laurel" audio clips.

I also think people online run with things in strange directions sometimes. For instance, "the plane lady" with "that (mfer) is NOT real!" never said she saw anything in particular, but a large portion of the comments asked "what did she see!?!" "I want to know what she saw!".

I did read it early on in media articles.
One example reported in the MSM:

"On January 25, 2019, 29-year-old Elizabeth Barraza was setting up a garage sale at her home at 8623 Cedarwalk Drive in Tomball.


Our first lead detective, Mike Richey, confessed to us, he felt like this was going to be solved in a couple of days. That he had the murder on tape," Bob Nuelle said.
Surveillance video captures a Nissan Frontier 4-door truck pull up.

That's when a person wearing go-go boots, a moo-moo dress, and a wig walks up to Barraza.

After she says good morning, the person fires four shots.

"29-year-old executed while setting up garage sale at her Tomball home, case remains unsolved 4 years later

 

[Rosydecember]

When re-looking at the timeline of her name searches on google, I wonder if something noteworthy happened in Liz's life in the first week of August 2018, half a year before her murder. While the main increase is in December and January (and I think that one lines up quite well and might be connected to the crime), there is also that first "higher" period that starts on the week of 5-11th of August. If she posted anything public or attended any noteworthy events or was in any other way "(re-/)discoverable" in early August, I'd be interested to see where these dots could connect to.

Of course, there are also other people with the same name and the searches might be related to someone else.

I also still wonder if the killer was a male or a female. When I only look at the images, I lean heavily towards a woman. When I listen to the audio, I lean towards a male. I don't think Liz appears to recognize this person initially. She might, later, though. The killing feels personal to me, I think the shooter was the person that wanted her dead. So someone Liz would not expect in the context of an early morning garage sale in Tomball, stepping out of a black truck?

MOO

Can you look at the timeline of the google searches of her address? Her employer?

 

[Sjöberg]

When re-looking at the timeline of her name searches on google, I wonder if something noteworthy happened in Liz's life in the first week of August 2018, half a year before her murder. While the main increase is in December and January (and I think that one lines up quite well and might be connected to the crime), there is also that first "higher" period that starts on the week of 5-11th of August. If she posted anything public or attended any noteworthy events or was in any other way "(re-/)discoverable" in early August, I'd be interested to see where these dots could connect to.

Can you look at the timeline of the google searches of her address? Her employer?

I am having trust issues now, as the results have changed!
Now it shows 0 for Aug 5-11 and 0 for the following week, too.

This is, for lack of a better word, bizarre! I am cursing myself that I did not take a screenshot of the previous results - but I promise, I did not make it up. I triple checked it when originally posting, because we don't write the dates in the US format over here and I was afraid of messing stuff up. Additionally, all the numbers are smaller at the moment. These are not the same results I saw previously. Can anyone confirm that observation?

But going with current data. As for her address, it says "too few results, can not display".
Funnily enough, when checking just her house number, the highest number of searches is... Aug 5-11th! Kinda speechless atm. Will follow up on that.*

As for "cedar walk", the highest number is Jan 20-26 (this includes post-crime, so will try to look at that separately in a minute), the following dates all have ~50 searches: April 8-14, May 6-12, May 20-26, June 24-30, Aug 26 - Sept 1st, 30 Sept - 6 Oct. Seems like random noise to me. After all, way more people will be searching the street.
When looking at a shorter period to see results for individual days, nothing stands out for "Cedar walk" (well, 0 on the 24th).

As for her house number, the days with most searches are May 30, May 31, June 2, June 21, June 25, July 26, Aug 1, Aug 7, Aug 14, Sept 7, Oct 17, Oct 25, Nov 4, Nov 30.
As for her name, most searches for "Elizabeth Barraza" are on June 7 (44), Nov 9 (73), Nov 19 (41), Dec 8 (40).
There are a few cases where the searches are quite high two days in a row: Aug 2-3 (30,28), Nov 24-25 (24,22).
Most searches for "Liz Barraza" are on June 12 (100), Sept 27 (94), Nov 3 (72), Dec 12 (60) and Jan 13 (71).
Most searches for "Sergio Barraza" are on June 6 (68), Aug 11 (91), Aug 21 (59), Sept 16 (63), Dec 25 (100), Jan 26 (63).
It does not give results for "Elizabeth Marie Barraza", "Elizabeth Marie Nuelle", "Elizabeth Nuelle" or "Liz Nuelle".

* Did follow up. Generally, I think this tool is too unreliable and I cannot see a pattern in these searches alltogether. However, I am intrigued by the very large change in the results I observed. I added images of searching her house number ~30 min apart - oddly enough, the numbers have changed!

Edit: adding a respective link: Google Trends data drastically different each day - Google Ads Community