TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #6

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  • #661
I wonder the same. His behavior is odd but I’m not getting vibes that scream guilty from him. However, I do find it interesting his stating in the interview that he called his Dad freaking out that something happened to LB and his Dad tried to reassure him she’s probably fine. Then years later he eventually names his Dad as a suspect. What happened between the switch and why?
On the one hand, it's a really good thought - he did need some trigger to name him as a suspect.
On the other hand - his father was his boss. When he realized stuff was serious and that he's not going to be back at work in an hour, he kinda has to call him for practical reasons, the actual aim of the call was probably not emotional support (though if you're distressed, this of course comes along).
 
  • #662
I know there's been a lot of debate over whether the shooter was waiting for Sergio to leave/for Liz to be alone (as this would remove a lot of risk for the shooter), but I've increasingly been wondering that if they were waiting for Liz to be alone, it was out of an abundance of caution to ensure Sergio didn't recognise them (even if in disguise). potentially, like an earlier poster said, it could have been an undocumented migrant worker, perhaps someone who Sergio could have seen once or twice on building sites?
 
  • #663
I know there's been a lot of debate over whether the shooter was waiting for Sergio to leave/for Liz to be alone (as this would remove a lot of risk for the shooter), but I've increasingly been wondering that if they were waiting for Liz to be alone, it was out of an abundance of caution to ensure Sergio didn't recognise them (even if in disguise). potentially, like an earlier poster said, it could have been an undocumented migrant worker, perhaps someone who Sergio could have seen once or twice on building sites?
I've wondered the same; either avoiding Sergio recognizing them, or maybe avoiding a scenario that would put Sergio in danger or cause him additional trauma.
 
  • #664
I know there's been a lot of debate over whether the shooter was waiting for Sergio to leave/for Liz to be alone (as this would remove a lot of risk for the shooter), but I've increasingly been wondering that if they were waiting for Liz to be alone, it was out of an abundance of caution to ensure Sergio didn't recognise them (even if in disguise). potentially, like an earlier poster said, it could have been an undocumented migrant worker, perhaps someone who Sergio could have seen once or twice on building sites?
What would be the motive for an undocumented worker to target Liz? I don't follow...
 
  • #665
What would be the motive for an undocumented worker to target Liz? I don't follow...
Liz had issues with her father in law not paying S properly. Checks were bouncing. Her fil was known for hiring undocumented workers for his flooring business.
 
  • #666
Liz had issues with her father in law not paying S properly. Checks were bouncing. Her fil was known for hiring undocumented workers for his flooring business.
But why would her FIL 's employee target Liz? How would they even know Liz was related to the situation at all, or know where Sergio lives?
Maybe I missed a connection so I apologize.
 
  • #667
But why would her FIL 's employee target Liz? How would they even know Liz was related to the situation at all, or know where Sergio lives?
Maybe I missed a connection so I apologize.

The idea is that FIL had the issue with Liz, not the worker.. and FIL hires the worker to put an end to this thorn in his side. MOO & lots of conjecture.
 
  • #668
I know there's been a lot of debate over whether the shooter was waiting for Sergio to leave/for Liz to be alone (as this would remove a lot of risk for the shooter), but I've increasingly been wondering that if they were waiting for Liz to be alone, it was out of an abundance of caution to ensure Sergio didn't recognise them (even if in disguise). potentially, like an earlier poster said, it could have been an undocumented migrant worker, perhaps someone who Sergio could have seen once or twice on building sites?
IF it was a hit, then timing had to make sure, that Sergio's alibi (away from home, present to a witness somewhere else) would have definitely existed, IMO. It was pretty tight, so it seems to me.
 
  • #669
But why would her FIL 's employee target Liz? How would they even know Liz was related to the situation at all, or know where Sergio lives?
Maybe I missed a connection so I apologize.
Hired hit.
 
  • #670
The idea is that FIL had the issue with Liz, not the worker.. and FIL hires the worker to put an end to this thorn in his side. MOO & lots of conjecture.

A lot. If Sergio was underpaid by dad, what's the use to fight with dad who's still an employer and wouldn’t it be better to find another one? Or was Sergio paid the same rate like any flooring master should be, but the Bs expected more because, a relative?
Second, threat to report hiring undocumented workers means dissolution of business and loss of job. So no gain to S or L anyhow. Also, unless you reported someone and someone was sent out, I think illegal immigrants won't kill anyone. If they are sent out, they can illegally return as it often happens. If they murdered someone here, it is a totally different situation. A threat to be deported especially to Mexico, is not the reason to kill, JMO.
 
  • #671
Hired hit.

Too much risk unless SB's father is irrational. Of course, if he knew about life insurance, it could be a huge attraction, but for a business man not to foresee that insurance would not be easily paid in such a case?
Although people are not the smartest when they assume insurance companies just shell out the money without looking at the validity of the claim.
 
  • #672
A lot. If Sergio was underpaid by dad, what's the use to fight with dad who's still an employer and wouldn’t it be better to find another one? Or was Sergio paid the same rate like any flooring master should be, but the Bs expected more because, a relative?
Second, threat to report hiring undocumented workers means dissolution of business and loss of job. So no gain to S or L anyhow. Also, unless you reported someone and someone was sent out, I think illegal immigrants won't kill anyone. If they are sent out, they can illegally return as it often happens. If they murdered someone here, it is a totally different situation. A threat to be deported especially to Mexico, is not the reason to kill, JMO.

If you haven't watched the Paula Zahn interview with Sergio, it's quite eye opening. The issue wasn't about pay rate or a threat to report undocumented workers - the issue was about bounced checks and FILs business being insolvent due to alleged excessive spending on mistresses. We have no way of confirming these theories, but Sergio is the one that breached this, and given that, it's quite explosive stuff.. the allegation is that LB confronted FIL on these matters. We can imagine, but do not know, that this would have been a heated discussion.

Anyway there are a lot of theories and in the end we internet sleuths who don't personally know the people involved obviously have no clue - but this is one area where there is smoke.
 
  • #673
If you haven't watched the Paula Zahn interview with Sergio, it's quite eye opening. The issue wasn't about pay rate or a threat to report undocumented workers - the issue was about bounced checks and FILs business being insolvent due to alleged excessive spending on mistresses. We have no way of confirming these theories, but Sergio is the one that breached this, and given that, it's quite explosive stuff.. the allegation is that LB confronted FIL on these matters. We can imagine, but do not know, that this would have been a heated discussion.

Anyway there are a lot of theories and in the end we internet sleuths who don't personally know the people involved obviously have no clue - but this is one area where there is smoke.

Yes I remember. At that time, I didn't pay much attention to it, because SB was giving too much random information to start with, but now I paid attention specifically to this very fact. I have very many questions about the interview, including SB's suspects. Also, I would like to know how many times the checks bounced? A bounced check is bad on a depositor, but it is also bad on business, isn't it?
 
  • #674
If you haven't watched the Paula Zahn interview with Sergio, it's quite eye opening. The issue wasn't about pay rate or a threat to report undocumented workers - the issue was about bounced checks and FILs business being insolvent due to alleged excessive spending on mistresses. We have no way of confirming these theories, but Sergio is the one that breached this, and given that, it's quite explosive stuff.. the allegation is that LB confronted FIL on these matters. We can imagine, but do not know, that this would have been a heated discussion.

Anyway there are a lot of theories and in the end we internet sleuths who don't personally know the people involved obviously have no clue - but this is one area where there is smoke.
Yikes. I’d add the FILS mistresses to the suspect list. Interesting.
 
  • #675
Hired hit.

So maybe FIL not over spending on mistress(es) but rather $$$ for a possible HH????...or not...

(Are we r certain of mistresses as the catalyst??? Or is it the $$$?)
 
  • #676
So maybe FIL not over spending on mistress(es) but rather $$$ for a possible HH????...or not...

(Are we r certain of mistresses as the catalyst??? Or is it the $$$?)

Alternatively, S might have needed money and Liz seemed to be controlling them. So maybe father gave S money in cash and written check that intended to bounce? I know it is a far-fetched theory, but SB is making way stronger accusations.
 
  • #677
So maybe FIL not over spending on mistress(es) but rather $$$ for a possible HH????...or not...

(Are we r certain of mistresses as the catalyst??? Or is it the $$$?)
I can see a possibility where if Liz was upset that SB’s father wasn’t paying him properly and he did use that money for his mistress, that said mistress probably threw a fit. I can see somebody getting angry over that. Probably said something like, “Well, it’s OUR money, and you’re going to let her take it from us?” Or something of that nature. I’m not sure how much SB’s father made or what his bracket is but if it’s enough to sustain multiple mistresses living a certain lifestyle, it’s worth looking into it. Was his father married or single? If married, maybe Liz threatened to tell the MIL & they silenced her? She could have walked in on FIL or mistress or seen something she wasn’t supposed to. People murder for a lot less. I really hope LE & the FBI looked into all of the mistresses.

One thing I haven’t checked though is the FILS background. Does he have a history of criminal activity? Does his mistresses? What about his employees? Anybody in SB’s family or friends? There’s got to be a gang connection there since the task force is involved. I would definitely look into SB’s father, his mistresses, SB’s mother (could have killed Liz for knowing about the affairs), SB’s friends turned love interest, & the legion group. Also curious to see if any members in the SW group have criminal history.

Who was ruled out?


Side note: if the shooter showed Liz something before they shot her, my guess would be a picture of SB having an affair but LE said it was a note. Wonder what it said.
 
  • #678
So maybe FIL not over spending on mistress(es) but rather $$$ for a possible HH????...or not...

(Are we r certain of mistresses as the catalyst??? Or is it the $$$?)
No one knows the motivation yet. These are just theories. But it’s all very strange conjecture and red flags pertaining to S and his dad. I think we are fair to discuss it because S is the very person who initially pointed the finger at his dad on national television (!)
 
  • #679
My understanding is that no one has been ruled out.

From linked article:
“Everybody is still a suspect until we found out who this is,” Wyatt said.



Additionally, it will be 5 years tomorrow since Liz Barraza was murdered in cold blood on her own driveway while setting up for a garage sale, and here we are today. Justice is coming!



The reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible is now up to $50,000.00.

If you have a tip, please call the Crime Stoppers of Houston Tip Line - all calls are completely anonymous. Only tips and calls DIRECTLY TO Crime Stoppers are anonymous and eligible for a cash reward.

+1 (713) 222-TIPS
 
  • #680
In the initial Crime Stoppers press conference around 22:35 Det. MR states the garage sale signs were put out that morning, but on the timeline posted by the family it says this:

"Evening Sergio and Liz place garage sale signs in the neighborhood announcing the garage sale running from Friday 1/25 through Saturday 01/26."

It is one of the details that bothers me to this day. I am sure LE went through Nest footage in the days prior and could verify all the times they left their home, including when to put out the signs. I am wondering if Det. MR purposely phrased the question that way during the press conference. MOO

I also want to point out that a note being passed or something being shown to to EB has never been confirmed nor denied by law enforcement to my knowledge. If you have confirmation that it has, please link it.
 
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