Who do you think the Zodiac Killer actually is?

[Panniniclaus]

Arthur Leigh Allen seems to fit the description. "The sketch of the man seen at Lake Berryessa before the attack on September 27, 1969, depicted a Caucasian male adult with a round face and dark hair. The girls who helped to produce this sketch described this man to investigators as a white male, between 28-30 years of age, with dark hair that was parted on the left side, at least six feet tall, stocky build, approx. 200 to 225 lbs., with a round face, rounded eyes, thin lips, a medium nose, straight eyebrows and small ears." Zodiac Killer FACTS - The EYEWITNESS DESCRIPTIONS and/or IDENTIFICATIONS

It's the small ears part that most makes me go with Allen. I have not see the Netflix documentary.

A group called The Casebreakers claim he's Gary Francis Poste but this was said by Journalist Colbert, who has said a Bureau whistleblower confirmed to him the chief suspect was Air Force veteran Gary Francis Poste but I have read also the FBI has not said.

Gary Francis Poste's ears are not small, in fact they are large, which makes me consider more towards Allen. Allen's ears in different photos really do not look too small but that big face of his may be the reason the witness felt they were.

When in doubt.. go with Occam's Razor.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2005622601222074444

 

[sandy betts]

It is interesting that someone believes there were four Zodiac's working together. Because that is how many my suspect told me there were! I have seen two of them together, stalking me. One was older and larger than the other. One had a shaved head and wore wigs, the other had brown curly hair worn in a pompadour, as Mike Mageau described. He has a lazy right eye, and his face and mouth are slightly paralyzed. That is why his voice is very odd. Both are still alive!

 

[Lalalacasbah]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2005622601222074444

Curious what Zodiac experts think of this angle. I haven't studied this case much so am a deer in headlights lol...but I am wondering if this idea can be ruled out or if possible.

 

[snooptroop88]

Curious what Zodiac experts think of this angle. I haven't studied this case much so am a deer in headlights lol...but I am wondering if this idea can be ruled out or if possible.

It's definitely interesting that this was Elizabeth Short's actual boyfriend, and that he had all this surgical experience.

The thing about his interests in Oceanside is very interesting because an early murder in which Zodiac is suspected is the murder of cab driver Ray Davis, who was found murdered in the St. Malo Beach area of Oceanside in 1962, and there was a bus threat in Oceanside in 1962. But jmo, this Margolis was not a CA native, and I think with the various locations Zodiac chose, again jmo Zodiac was (likely) born and (definitely) raised in California. The bayonet they mention with Margolis-- it's interesting, but he's definitely not the only suspect brought forward with a knife/weapon that could be indicative of Zodiac, either because of the blade or because of some symbol on the weapon. The cipher-- also interesting, but other names have been given when those ciphers are approached by other researchers.

Not being flippant when I say this, but I'd almost be looking for someone a little along the lines of a Forrest Gump-like character who just turns up everywhere, in Gump's case, he's in so many places that matter in contemporary American history. So looking for Zodiac, would be looking for someone that is everywhere he "would be" if he were Zodiac, and is into everything he "would be" into were he Zodiac He knows Vallejo. He knows Lake Berryessa. Bay area. Napa. If you think he killed Ray Davis, he knows Oceanside. (And also has some fascination with cab drivers because he definitely murdered cabbie Paul Stine years later.) If you think he killed Cheri Bates, he knows Riverside. If you think he murdered Donna Lass, he knows Tahoe area. If you think he's involved with Judith Hakari's murder and the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker murders, he knows-- other murderers, and works with them occasionally. Knows guns, knows knives, according to himself also fire and rope. Into medieval costumes. Knows Mikado. Putting two and two together with Mikado and the heavy concentration of Japanese immigration to California, I'd assume he's a lifelong citizen of CA with some extensive interactions with Japanese culture. Is aware of ciphers. Can put together relatively complex designs. Knows certain area newspapers. Knows tricks with airplane glue to attempt to hide fingerprints. Certainly enjoys playing twisted perverse jester and isn't afraid of attention, so long as he remains anonymous.

For that very reason with anonymity, I don't think someone like Margolis is him. Zodiac jmo truly led a double life, there was a complete schism. There's too much on the surface with Margolis for him to risk such "flamboyance" of the Zodiac strain, but again all jmo. Zodiac does what not many murderers do: he publicizes his own murders. So he was meticulous about protecting the alternative reality behind his "pseudonym."

 

[bdsjr]

It all comes down to the confirmed known activities of the Zodiac Killer. Staying focused on that information alone tells us that the killer was likely a shorter guy, 5’10 or less, stockier than average, and probably in his late 20’s or 30’s. I know the SF report puts the suspect in his early 40’s but none of the other info does, including the first SF bulletin. Mageau, Hartnell, and Slaight have him 30 or less. Based on his actions, it’s very likely he was living in Solano County at the time, at least in 68 and 69. Now how does that compare to Margolis?

 

[snarast]

Wildly unlikely but fun brainstorming.

That this gets press is a sure sign TC has jumped the shark. And been bit in half.

IMHOO

 

[bdsjr]

Wildly unlikely but fun brainstorming.

That this gets press is a sure sign TC has jumped the shark. And been bit in half.

IMHOO

I guess one way to look at it is any press is better than no press since maybe someone with a badge and jurisdiction will get interested in finally bringing it to an end.

 

[snarast]

I guess one way to look at it is any press is better than no press since maybe someone with a badge and jurisdiction will get interested in finally bringing it to an end.

I could make a better argument for BTK killed JonBenet. Oh well.

IMHOO

 

[Dotta]

Behind a paywall

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011944904297943338

 

[Jade]

Here's a way to read it: https://archive.is/iSOCf

snipped for focus


Thanks for the link!

I’ve been interested in the Black Delia case so wow. The sketch does look like the photos of Merrill, imo.

I’m not as informed as you all so I’m adding this additional older article with many pictures in case others haven’t seen it either.

New Zodiac suspect IDENTIFIED and linked to unsolved Hollywood murder

The Daily Mail is a WS TOS approved source.

All imo

 

[snooptroop88]

Am increasingly thinking that Zodiac's Portugese. On PARADICE SLAVES, "para"+"dice" in Potugese means "to say." On the envelope to Paul Avery, he adds an "L" to Avery, making it Averly. And he underlines L A V. In Portugese, lav/lave/laves are all derivatives of the same verb meaning "wash"/to wash. (British slang refers to a toilet/washroom as a "lav.")

Portugese "selva" (contained in "slaves") is "forest." "Valles" (contained in "slaves"+L added to Avery's name) is the Spanish plural for "valleys," "vales" would be the plural in Portugese.

ZODIAC VICTIMS/"valleys"

Benicia=gateway to the Central Valley couple shot to death
Blue Rock Springs/Vallejo=in a valley, couple shot, male victim survives
Lake Berrryessa=in a valley, couple stabbed, male victim survived
Presidio Heights/cabbie Paul Stine=NOT a valley, victim individual, not a couple, victim, a cab driver, shot

POSSIBLE ZODIAC:
Ray Davis, cabbie, individual, NOT a valley, St. Malo Beach area of Oceanside
Robert Domingos, Linda Edwards=in a valley
Cheri Bates, Riverside=in a valley, individual young female
Enedine Molina and Fermin Rodriquez=in a valley/Livermore/Pleasanton area
John Franklin Hood & Inez Garcia=not a valley technically based on what I'm seeing but foothill/base of Santa Ynez Mts
Kathleen Johns=in a valley, individual woman/(probably) visibly pregnant
Ofcr Richard Radetich=Haight Ashbury district has valleys
Donna Lass=in a structural valley, individual young female
Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders=in a valley

NOTE: California is topographically diverse, it it not "mostly valleys."

Also learned that Portugese has only two feminine signs (grammatically/language), Libra and Virgo. All the rest are masculine. In Spanish, they're pretty much all masculine, with the exception of Libra. In both Spanish and Portugese, both signs beginning with "A" (Aquarius and Aries) are masculine. (Underlined LAV in Avery letter)

Further, seeing the Portugese word "valeu" is a snide way of saying "thank you." I wondered if this were synonymous with "vallejo" (Spanish) because it seems close in pronunciation, but it is not, "vallejo" means "little valley." (CA city of Vallejo named after some historic figure, I believe.)

Zodiac misspelling of "victom." I think Zodiac's name (or/and his father's or grandfather's name) is quite possibly Tom/Tomas. All his misspellings jmo are intentional.

 

[snarast]

Am increasingly thinking that Zodiac's Portugese. On PARADICE SLAVES, "para"+"dice" in Potugese means "to say." On the envelope to Paul Avery, he adds an "L" to Avery, making it Averly. And he underlines L A V. In Portugese, lav/lave/laves are all derivatives of the same verb meaning "wash"/to wash. (British slang refers to a toilet/washroom as a "lav.")

Portugese "selva" (contained in "slaves") is "forest." "Valles" (contained in "slaves"+L added to Avery's name) is the Spanish plural for "valleys," "vales" would be the plural in Portugese.

ZODIAC VICTIMS/"valleys"

Benicia=gateway to the Central Valley couple shot to death
Blue Rock Springs/Vallejo=in a valley, couple shot, male victim survives
Lake Berrryessa=in a valley, couple stabbed, male victim survived
Presidio Heights/cabbie Paul Stine=NOT a valley, victim individual, not a couple, victim, a cab driver, shot

POSSIBLE ZODIAC:
Ray Davis, cabbie, individual, NOT a valley, St. Malo Beach area of Oceanside
Robert Domingos, Linda Edwards=in a valley
Cheri Bates, Riverside=in a valley, individual young female
Enedine Molina and Fermin Rodriquez=in a valley/Livermore/Pleasanton area
John Franklin Hood & Inez Garcia=not a valley technically based on what I'm seeing but foothill/base of Santa Ynez Mts
Kathleen Johns=in a valley, individual woman/(probably) visibly pregnant
Ofcr Richard Radetich=Haight Ashbury district has valleys
Donna Lass=in a structural valley, individual young female
Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders=in a valley

NOTE: California is topographically diverse, it it not "mostly valleys."

Also learned that Portugese has only two feminine signs (grammatically/language), Libra and Virgo. All the rest are masculine. In Spanish, they're pretty much all masculine, with the exception of Libra. In both Spanish and Portugese, both signs beginning with "A" (Aquarius and Aries) are masculine. (Underlined LAV in Avery letter)

Further, seeing the Portugese word "valeu" is a snide way of saying "thank you." I wondered if this were synonymous with "vallejo" (Spanish) because it seems close in pronunciation, but it is not, "vallejo" means "little valley." (CA city of Vallejo named after some historic figure, I believe.)

Zodiac misspelling of "victom." I think Zodiac's name (or/and his father's or grandfather's name) is quite possibly Tom/Tomas. All his misspellings jmo are intentional.

So then he could be Brazilian? Oh South America the cradle of ominous conspiracy theories.

And bona fide governmental experiments.

BTW, what formatting is that? Your own or for input into dare I say it - an appropriate agent?

 

[GXP Sleuther]

william joseph grant

 

[snooptroop88]

So then he could be Brazilian? Oh South America the cradle of ominous conspiracy theories.

And bona fide governmental experiments.

BTW, what formatting is that? Your own or for input into dare I say it - an appropriate agent?

Not sure on the formatting queston, honestly, it's the same formatting I always use.